Crayton to be on ESPN First Take today - 01/16/09

[Vintage]

Crayton blows..... Quit defending your homay....

Your homies are weak.

I roll over them like they aint even there.

 

[WoodysGirl]

T.O. slob-fest in the Daily Zone

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144020

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Crayton dropped 2 passes, muffed a punt, and quit his route on a potential game-winning TD, in the most important game of his life to that point. Following a week where he'd once again ran his mouth.

Most fans problem with Crayton I think isn't that he's a terrible player, but that he holds a lot higher opinion of himself than the reality of the player he is on the field.

And the only thing consistent with him is his defenders.
Never has such loyalty been reserved for such a subaverage player. Yes, he can catch the ball, but so can a hundred other scrubs and players on practice teams.
This guy is like Reggie Swinton, only with a bigger mouth.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Your homies are weak.

I roll over them like they aint even there.

When I roll 20 deep , there's 29 in da club....

 

[Vintage]

When I roll 20 deep , there's 29 in da club....

Please.

You're the Anthony Spencer of the group. Out drunk, thinking your special, trying to keep the bar open and all you provide is meager production (aka 4.5 sacks in 2 years).

You studio gangsters, see i did dirt, i did work, so
Many *****es can vouch that, so since i got stripes
I got the right to rap about that, but *****es like you
I gotta hate ya, i'm tired of Suburbian *****es talkin about
They comin from projects

 

[Idgit]

Crayton dropped 2 passes, muffed a punt, and quit his route on a potential game-winning TD, in the most important game of his life to that point. Following a week where he'd once again ran his mouth.

Most fans problem with Crayton I think isn't that he's a terrible player, but that he holds a lot higher opinion of himself than the reality of the player he is on the field.

This explains the Crayton-hate. A fundamental misunderstanding of his performance that day. Most fans hate the guy b/c the the drop and b/c they don't understand what happens when a WR breaks off a route when the QB is scrambling. Crayton had a mouth and was a well-liked player before that playoff game.

And the notion that you have to be a probowl player to give an interview or have a strong opinion in this league is just stupid. They guy likes to talk, like a lot of players in this league. He's a former QB who works hard and has an assertive personality. Get over it, or don't.

But when it reaches the level that you're willing to pretend one of our most consistent WRs is one of our least consistent players, then your emotions are clouding your judgement, as they are here.

EDIT: Oops. I attributed one of Gimme's statements in this thread to you, DT, but you get the point.

 

[WarDaddy]

recap?

I mean, what in the world is going on in this thread?

 

[dbair1967]

recap?

I mean, what in the world is going on in this thread?

nothing really...its like I said...people heard he was on and decided to start bashing him again

 

[Stash]

nothing really...its like I said...people heard he was on and decided to start bashing him again

And if "Chatty Cathy" was 'on' yet again, I'm sure he wouldn't be getting bashed again.

As has been pointed out numerous times - and conveniently ignored - what other team's #3 receiver is blabbing on ESPN every other day?

Not too many I can think of.

Part of this team's problem is that too many players have the freedom to say whatever they want whenever they want.

And all the while Jones and Coach Cupcake preach change.

Yeah, sure looks like it.

 

[Idgit]

And if "Chatty Cathy" was 'on' yet again, I'm sure he wouldn't be getting bashed again.

As has been pointed out numerous times - and conveniently ignored - what other team's #3 receiver is blabbing on ESPN every other day?

Not too many I can think of.

It gets conveniently ignored, b/c people who don't hate Crayton don't understand why it's relevant. What teams get the coverage the Cowboys do? What teams have outspoken personalities at 3rd WR? What possible difference does it make?

Part of this team's problem is that too many players have the freedom to say whatever they want whenever they want.

And all the while Jones and Coach Cupcake preach change.

Yeah, sure looks like it.

I don't know that I agree that the players need to be muzzled, but if you think they should be, you should have an issue with the coach and not with the player who's granting an interview.

 

[Iago33]

I don't know that I agree that the players need to be muzzled, but if you think they should be, you should have an issue with the coach and not with the player who's granting an interview.

Can't we have a problem with both? Pretty please? Mother may I?

 

[Stash]

It gets conveniently ignored, b/c people who don't hate Crayton don't understand why it's relevant. What teams get the coverage the Cowboys do? What teams have outspoken personalities at 3rd WR? What possible difference does it make?

The difference is when the guy can 'talk the talk' but can't 'walk the walk'. It's not hard to figure out.

I don't know that I agree that the players need to be muzzled, but if you think they should be, you should have an issue with the coach and not with the player who's granting an interview.

Yeah, all this yapping to ESPN has really been great for the team.

And in case you missed my sig picture, I do have an issue with the head coach.

Crayton's motivations aren't anything team-related but personal ones. He's doing this for his own interests, not the team's.

 

[dbair1967]

And if "Chatty Cathy" was 'on' yet again, I'm sure he wouldn't be getting bashed again.

As has been pointed out numerous times - and conveniently ignored - what other team's #3 receiver is blabbing on ESPN every other day?

Not too many I can think of.

Part of this team's problem is that too many players have the freedom to say whatever they want whenever they want.

And all the while Jones and Coach Cupcake preach change.

Yeah, sure looks like it.

Why does Crayton getting some time on ESPN bother anybody? They like the guy and he likes them. He's probably posturing for life after football as well, and the more exposure he gets the more likely it is a network (perhaps even ESPN) will come calling.

You people just make too much out of nothing, over and over and over.

 

[Idgit]

The difference is when the guy can 'talk the talk' but can't 'walk the walk'. It's not hard to figure out.



Yeah, all this yapping to ESPN has really been great for the team.

And in case you missed my sig picture, I do have an issue with the head coach.

Crayton's motivations aren't anything team-related but personal ones. He's doing this for his own interests, not the team's.

Then this current rant is misplaced, since Crayton's not talking the talk right now. Save the spleen for training camp when Crayton says something deserving of this level of overreaction.

It's fine by me to have an issue with Wade. If you want to conflate that with a Crayton ***** session, we're all going to get confused about which situation you're overreacting to most fervently. I'd say stick to one and exhaust it, and then move on to the next.

 

[Stash]

Why does Crayton getting some time on ESPN bother anybody? They like the guy and he likes them. He's probably posturing for life after football as well, and the more exposure he gets the more likely it is a network (perhaps even ESPN) will come calling.

Yeah, who cares if what he says hurts the team or gives the ESPN machine more ammo, right? As long as it's good for Patrick Crayton. And we wonder why this team can't win anything.

You people just make too much out of nothing, over and over and over.

And you call it 'nothing' and yet here you are. Hmmmm.

 

[Stash]

Then this current rant is misplaced, since Crayton's not talking the talk right now. Save the spleen for training camp when Crayton says something deserving of this level of overreaction.

Thanks for the advice but I'll think for myself. If I don't like something, I'll say I don't. And I don't like a mediocre receiver grabbing as much airtime as he can for his own interests helping ESPN dig dirt on my favorite team.

It's fine by me to have an issue with Wade. If you want to conflate that with a Crayton ***** session, we're all going to get confused about which situation you're overreacting to most fervently. I'd say stick to one and exhaust it, and then move on to the next.

Again, save the advice.

Or skip the threads you don't feel are worthy.

 

[tunahelper]

He's not even above average, but he is slow and plays small in big games.

Judging by his tolerence of noise (his mouth) his IQ is below average.

 

[Idgit]

Thanks for the advice but I'll think for myself. If I don't like something, I'll say I don't. And I don't like a mediocre receiver grabbing as much airtime as he can for his own interests helping ESPN dig dirt on my favorite team.



Again, save the advice.

Or skip the threads you don't feel are worthy.

Come on, stash. If you don't like Crayton--and now, apparently, me--sharing our opinions, you should stay away from sports opinion shows and sports message boards. Pat and I like to flap our gums and flex our keyboards way to much to keep quiet.

And get back to me when giving an interview matters as much as shaving a route or fumbling when you're sacked trying to make something happen. These are the real things that hurt your favorite team.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Please.

You're the Anthony Spencer of the group. Out drunk, thinking your special, trying to keep the bar open and all you provide is meager production (aka 4.5 sacks in 2 years).

You studio gangsters, see i did dirt, i did work, so
Many *****es can vouch that, so since i got stripes
I got the right to rap about that, but *****es like you
I gotta hate ya, i'm tired of Suburbian *****es talkin about
They comin from projects

You ain't down wit da row like me...

You are down wit Ruthless and Sleazy.

Wrap it up playa...

You rep southlake when I rep souf watts.

 

[Stash]

Come on, stash. If you don't like Crayton--and now, apparently, me--sharing our opinions, you should stay away from sports opinion shows and sports message boards. Pat and I like to flap our gums and flex our keyboards way to much to keep quiet.

I have no problem with Crayton the journeyman posession receiver. It's the Crayton who thinks he's more than that I dislike. "Know your role and shut your mouth".

And I'm not chasing anyone away here, I try to respect all opinions. It's when some people think it's their right to tell others what's important or what matters and what doesn't that pisses me off. You know - If you don't feel something's worthy of discussion why are you here? - that sort of attitude.

And get back to me when giving an interview matters as much as shaving a route or fumbling when you're sacked trying to make something happen. These are the real things that hurt your favorite team.

Sure doesn't. But it sure doesn't do anything to help either. And unless I'm mistaken, 'ol JabberJaw has had his share of gaffes too. On a big stage as I recall too.

When you can tell me how Crayton flapping his gums to ESPN helps anyone other than him, maybe I'll see things differently.