Crisco top-50, horrible

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This guy continues to be one of the worst NFL Writers I have ever seen...this is a joke...other than his top 3, I dont see much at all to agree with on his waste of time article:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567

1. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: Can he do any more than he did last season? The scary thing for the rest of the league is, yes he can.

2. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts: Even Manning's down seasons are sensational. If Marvin Harrison is back this year, watch out.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: His failure to play in the AFC Championship Game hurts his rep some, but he's still the best runner in the game. (memo to Crisco, Tomlinson did in fact try to play on a badly injured knee)

4. Randy Moss, WR, New England Patriots: Talk about resurrecting a reputation. He wasn't on many top 50 lists a year ago. Now he's a top 10 player.

5. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos: It's chic to pick his game apart. That's foolish. Bailey is still the best cover corner in the game.

6. Mario Williams, DE, Houston Texans: Williams is making the Texans proud for passing on Reggie Bush and Vince Young to take this pass rusher. He might have been the league's best defensive player in the final eight weeks of 2007.

7. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis Colts: The only thing holding him back is the injury issues. When he's on the field, the Colts have a different defense.

8. Carson Palmer, QB, Cincinnati Bengals: After Brady and Manning he's the third-best quarterback. The Bengals need to run it a little better to take the heat off him.

9. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: He was given more freedom in Wade Phillips' version of the 3-4 and played better in 2007. Ware is a speed rusher who has his best football still in front of him.

10. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings: He is a powerful inside player who teams with Pat Williams to form the best tackle tandem in the league. He is good against the run, yet quick enough to get pass-rush penetration.

11. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Merriman is a pass-rush force off the edge. His quickness and power are the perfect combination for the Chargers' 3-4 system. You have to account for him on every pass play.

12. Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings: He led the league in sacks last season with the Chiefs. The Vikings added him to give them the best defensive line in the league. Allen plays hard all the time.

13. Terrell Owens, WR, Dallas Cowboys: Forget all the theatrics. He's a star player. He bounced back from his off 2006 season to be one of the best last season. I'd take him on my team any day.

14. Albert Haynesworth, DT, Tennessee Titans: Before he got hurt midway through last season, he was on his way to a potential Defensive Player of the Year award. When motivated, he is as good as anybody inside.

15. Adrian Peterson, RB, Minnesota Vikings: Peterson was special as a rookie and should be even better this time around. He is a big, strong and fast and can rip off the big runs with an Eric Dickerson-like ease.

16. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: Jones is a rock on the left side of the Seattle line. He is a great pass protector who has improved as a run blocker.

17. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers: At 26, he's entering his prime. Roethlisberger has developed into a quality passer. Playing behind a bad line last year, he hung in tough and led the Steelers to a division title.

18. Charles Woodson, CB, Green Bay Packers: Ask Packers insiders who was better last season, Woodson or Pro Bowl player Al Harris. The answer is Woodson. After Bailey, I'd take him over all other corners.

19. Steve Hutchinson, G, Minnesota Vikings: He wasn't his usual self in his first season with the Vikings in 2006, but bounced back to his dominating form last year.

20. Brian Westbrook, RB, Philadelphia Eagles: It's scary to think what the Eagles offense would be like without him. He's a better runner inside the tackles than many expected and he's good in the passing game. He's a versatile weapon.

21. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers: He was hurt last season when Jake Delhomme went down. It doesn't help that Smith has little help on the other side. Defenses all double him.

22. Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts: When Marvin Harrison was out last season, Wayne emerged as the team's go-to receiver. The guess here is that is that it stays that way. He's a true star now.

23. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens: He is the prototype modern safety: rangy and can still tackle. He is what safeties like Roy Williams wish they could be.

24. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: When the Chargers need a first down through the air, Gates is that guy. And he does it facing constant double-coverage.

25. Dwight Freeney, DE, Indianapolis Colts: He's coming off a serious foot injury, which is a concern. It's why his ranking is down. When he's truly healthy, he's a top 15 player.

26. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans: Injuries limited him last season, but Johnson is one of the best when he's on the field. The Texans were a different team without him last season.

27. Jason Peters, T, Buffalo Bills: I love young, rising players like Peters. He plays with a mean streak. Watching him play is like watching a defensive player go at it.

28. Chad Johnson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: He isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is. But he's still pretty damn good. He does have a tendency to disappear in big games.

29. Nmandi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: DeAngelo Hall might get more attention on the other side this season, but Asomugha is a better player. He's been overlooked for the past two seasons.

30. Richard Seymour, DE, New England Patriots: He played hurt last season and wasn't the same player as in years past. But he's still one of the best when he's healthy.

31. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals gave him a new contract in March because he's their go-to guy. He teams with Anquan Boldin to form one of the top receiving duos.

32. Brian Urlacher, LB, Chicago Bears: A few years back he was overrated. He's not anymore. Urlacher excels in the middle of the Chicago defense.

33. Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams: The offensive line woes of the Rams really hurt Jackson last season. That line will be better this season and his numbers will go up.

34. Braylon Edwards, WR, Cleveland Browns: Edwards was second to Moss with 16 receiving touchdowns in his third season in the league. He averaged 16.1 per catch and will only get better as he hits his prime.

35. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints: For the second consecutive season, Brees put up huge numbers in the Saints offense. He might not be the biggest or have the strongest arm, but Brees knows how to throw the football.

36. Tommie Harris, DT, Chicago Bears: Harris is strong and quick. He had eight sacks last season, showing off his quickness. He can still hold the point against the run.

37. Asante Samuel, CB, Philadelphia Eagles: He had a big season at the right time, cashing in on a huge deal with the Eagles. He's great at playing the ball in the air, but some scouts think he freelances too much.

38. Shawn Andrews, G, Philadelphia Eagles: He's a huge guard at 6-4, 345 pounds and he shows off that power when blocking for the run. He improved in pass protection in 2007, although the Eagles line regressed as a whole.

39. Ernie Sims, LB, Detroit Lions: It's too bad more people don't get to watch him play. He's a fast linebacker who always seems to find his way to the football. He's a younger Derrick Brooks.

40. Lofa Tatupu, LB, Seattle Seahawks: He's a fierce tackler in the middle of that Seattle defense. He's not big at 6-feet tall, but he plays big. You can tell he loves the game.

41. Vince Wilfork, DT, New England Patriots: He was the best front-seven player on the Pats defense last season. He's a load in the middle. Moving him off the ball is tough for any center.

42. Osi Umenyiora, DE, New York Giants: His speed off the right side is a huge plus for the New York defense. Without Mike Strahan playing on the other side this season, it will be interesting to see how Umenyiora does now.

43. Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers: It didn't take him long to establish himself as a top middle linebacker. He is fast, active and packs a punch. In a year or so, he might be the best insider linebacker in the game.

44. Kellen Winslow, TE, Cleveland Browns: He has emerged as one of the rising stars for a rising team. His ability to stretch the defense is vital to the Cleveland offense.

45. Aaron Kampman, DE, Green Bay Packers: He plays all out all the time. Despite being light at 265 pounds, he holds up against the run at left end quite well. He has speed and strength as a pass rusher.

46. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Kansas City Chiefs: He's one of those guys who doesn't seem to ever slow down. He had 99 catches last year in a bad offense.

47. Marcus Trufant, CB, Seattle Seahawks: He led all NFC corners with seven interceptions. He also got credit for 22 passes defensed. He has emerged as a top-tier corner.

48. Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots: Yes, he belongs on this list. He had an amazing season as a slot receiver in 2007. Even when teams knew he was getting the football, he made plays.

49. Fred Taylor, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars: Taylor finally got his due last season with his first Pro Bowl appearance. At 32, he remains one of the biggest home-run threats in the league. His 5.4 per-carry average was second best among the league's best rushers to Peterson (5.6).

50. Devin Hester, KR, Chicago Bears: I don't normally put return men on these lists, but this guy has earned it. It will be interesting to see how long he can maintain it.

Just missed: Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina Panthers; Larry Johnson, RB, Kansas City Chiefs; Patrick Kerney, DE, Seattle Seahawks; Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh Steelers; Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals; Antonio Cromartie, CB, San Diego Chargers' Terence Newman, CB, Dallas Cowboys; DeMeco Ryans, LB, Houston Texans; Tony Romo, QB, Dallas Cowboys.
 

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Two very fine Guards are mentioned on this list.

Leonard Davis couldn't be very far behind the top two, could he?
 

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Pretty high for Mario Williams after one good season. (and this from a N C State fan!)
 

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I didn't see the NFL's most complete tight end listed, but the oversized receivers seemed to make the list......
 

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no Romo? no Newman? no Witten? ridiculous.. all three of those guys are Top 50 players in the league.. some of the guys he has rated higher than them are hilarious picks.. let's see, who's a better player- Wes Welker or Jason Witten? gimme a break..
 

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gee thats funny. I didnt see his buddy, the guy who he always says is the best safety in the league on there, Adrian Wilson. Surely he must be better than aaron kampman and charles woodson?

The way prisco talked about Adrian wilson two years ago I would think he would be in his top 10, but he cant even make his top 50.

THats odd. Or maybe it isnt.

I could care less where he ranks players. He probably doesnt have a clue about 75% of them.
 

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Do I think he shorted a couple of Cowboys? Yes.

Is the list horrid? No.

Should Kellen Winslow or Tony Gonzales be above Witten right now? Absolutely not.
If Carson Palmer 8 when Romo can't crack 50? Of course not.

But all in all its close. The 50 he chose are all worthy top 100 guys and the guys he left out are no higher than 25.
 

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The only problem I have from a Cowboys point of view is no Witten.
 

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This is a joke. Randy Moss in the top 5 but TO is only a 13. He listed Ware at 9th but was more laudatory on Merriman at 13. Winslow at 44 but still no Witten.
 

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jterrell;2128354 said:
Do I think he shorted a couple of Cowboys? Yes.

probably did, but thats not why I thought the list was horrible

Is the list horrid? No.

yes, it is

But all in all its close. The 50 he chose are all worthy top 100 guys and the guys he left out are no higher than 25.

actually I dont think it is at all...numbers 4-7 definitely are not the 3th through 7th best players...Jared Allen at 12 is kinda a joke, so is Haynesworth at 14, Woodson at 18 is absolutely atrocious, Gates at 24 when Witten doesnt even make the list is a joke, Jason Peters is not one of the 30 best players in football, Shawn Andrews is way too high, so is Ernie Sims, Wilfork, Winslow and Welker

David
 

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No Witten makes that list a complete joke since it has more then 2 TEs
 

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How many GMs would not trade Fred Taylor for Marion Barber straight up? How about Fred Taylor for Larry Johnson?
 

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so let me get this straight....we were 13-3....had 13 Pro Bowlers...set franchise records (for a franchise that is the most succesful in the Super Bowl era)....and we did this with 2 top 50 player?

I guess Wade is a much better coach than he is given credit for.

And this also means that all of these cats in Dallas lining up to be paid big time are either overrated or are just trying to take Jerry while the spigot is open. So Ken Hamlin needs to report....TG needs to report...Canty needs to come to an agreement, he is worth what the Cowboys gave Ratliff, nothing more. Jerry needs to really be careful with his checkbook...with the CBs he has now I would seriously consider letting Hamlin walk....we would make a big mistake if we met his contract demands
 

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Did Prisco huff industrial solvents when he wrote this up? Not only is Mario Williams ahead of Ware, but Jared Allen as well. And Terence Newman not in the top 50? Mmmkay.



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jterrell;2128354 said:
Do I think he shorted a couple of Cowboys? Yes.

Is the list horrid? No.

Should Kellen Winslow or Tony Gonzales be above Witten right now? Absolutely not.
If Carson Palmer 8 when Romo can't crack 50? Of course not.

But all in all its close. The 50 he chose are all worthy top 100 guys and the guys he left out are no higher than 25.

As usual, a voice of reason. These lists are completely subjective. I don't completely agree with it and I suspect 100 out of 100 would pick a different top 50. I think Witten should have made the list. But you can't really get upset with Gonzales over Witten. And Winslow is probably a more gifted athlete who could outplay Witten although I suspect he won't. I can't scream about the pick. Yada.

lkelly;2128395 said:
How many GMs would not trade Fred Taylor for Marion Barber straight up? How about Fred Taylor for Larry Johnson?

I don't know. Taylor is better but how much longer will he be. And he's not that much better. MB may be an even better player this year although I think he gets 110% of what he has talent wise. And MB is not the player Johnson is. Neither is Taylor although those two are pretty close. I guess your point is for Taylor and Johnson although I could be misreading it.



bbailey423;2128396 said:
so let me get this straight....we were 13-3....had 13 Pro Bowlers...set franchise records (for a franchise that is the most succesful in the Super Bowl era)....and we did this with 2 top 50 player?

I guess Wade is a much better coach than he is given credit for.

And this also means that all of these cats in Dallas lining up to be paid big time are either overrated or are just trying to take Jerry while the spigot is open. So Ken Hamlin needs to report....TG needs to report...Canty needs to come to an agreement, he is worth what the Cowboys gave Ratliff, nothing more. Jerry needs to really be careful with his checkbook...with the CBs he has now I would seriously consider letting Hamlin walk....we would make a big mistake if we met his contract demands

It's a very subjective list which is really almost meaningless. I understand why you and others take exception but...And I'm not sold on Hamlin yet and neither are the Cowboys. They had no options but to pay Hamlin handsomely this year. We don't have anyone to replace him.
 
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I think Ware is a top 5 player, sorry but I couldn't put Williams ahead of him. Romo should be rated ahead of Palmer too...
 

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I have no issues with Mario Williams being above Ware.

I know the Texans stink and people ignore them but Williams all of a sudden turned into Reggie White lite.

As much as I love Ware, and he is clearly a top 10 player Williams had the same sack totals as a 300 pound guy.

I'd trade Ware for Williams right now as sad as it is to admit that but he is the only player in the NFL I would trade Ware for. No one else is that young and that good.

The fact so many wanna lower Williams shows that Prisco isn't the only one who needs to bone up on players before making lists. :)
 

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jterrell;2128463 said:
I have no issues with Mario Williams being above Ware.

I know the Texans stink and people ignore them but Williams all of a sudden turned into Reggie White lite.

As much as I love Ware, and he is clearly a top 10 player Williams had the same sack totals as a 300 pound guy.

I'd trade Ware for Williams right now as sad as it is to admit that but he is the only player in the NFL I would trade Ware for. No one else is that young and that good.

The fact so many wanna lower Williams shows that Prisco isn't the only one who needs to bone up on players before making lists. :)

you sir have just lost your man card...:mad:
 
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