Crisco top-50, horrible

[jterrell]

As usual, a voice of reason. These lists are completely subjective. I don't completely agree with it and I suspect 100 out of 100 would pick a different top 50. I think Witten should have made the list. But you can't really get upset with Gonzales over Witten. And Winslow is probably a more gifted athlete who could outplay Witten although I suspect he won't. I can't scream about the pick. Yada.

Thanks for the nod bro.

I can't scream but I do pretty strongly disagree
Winslow is more athletic but has a far worse injury history and much less actual production.

Gonzales is probably the best TE ever but he has fallen a good bit.

Right now, Witten is the best blocker amongst these players by all accounts and he is the healthiest of them in recent history.

He has had over 650 yards receiving and 60 catches 4 years in a row and is only 25.


Winslow has put together 2 strong seasons but still caught near 20 less passes than Witten and scored less TDs. Winslow did average more yards per catch and have more total receiving yardage.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

look how high he has Woodson.

then look at everyone underneath Woodson.

hahahaha.

 

[jobberone]

Thanks for the nod bro.

I can't scream but I do pretty strongly disagree
Winslow is more athletic but has a far worse injury history and much less actual production.

Gonzales is probably the best TE ever but he has fallen a good bit.

Right now, Witten is the best blocker amongst these players by all accounts and he is the healthiest of them in recent history.

He has had over 650 yards receiving and 60 catches 4 years in a row and is only 25.


Winslow has put together 2 strong seasons but still caught near 20 less passes than Witten and scored less TDs. Winslow did average more yards per catch and have more total receiving yardage.

You've earned my respect over the years but you are welcome.

And you're preaching to the choir about Witten which is why I worded it the way I did. I wouldn't trade him for any other TE in the game. He's not the best pass catcher, the most athletic, or even the best blocker. But he's the best combination there is. I do have to disagree with some about his blocking. He can be woefully inadequate at times esp picking up some blitzes. But I'm nitpicking because in general he does block well. He'll improve on the areas he needs. What a competitor!

 

[AbeBeta]

Just missed: Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina Panthers; Larry Johnson, RB, Kansas City Chiefs; Patrick Kerney, DE, Seattle Seahawks; Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh Steelers; Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals; Antonio Cromartie, CB, San Diego Chargers' Terence Newman, CB, Dallas Cowboys; DeMeco Ryans, LB, Houston Texans; Tony Romo, QB, Dallas Cowboys.

I could see making the argument that any of these guys haven't done it long enough to make the top 50 -- but then he goes and puts Mario Williams and Adrian Peterson on the list

 

[DaBoys4Life]

hmmm Charles Woodson ahead of Newman........

I don't see the need to take a shot at RW when he mentions Ed Reed.

 

[Idgit]

I have no issues with Mario Williams being above Ware.

I know the Texans stink and people ignore them but Williams all of a sudden turned into Reggie White lite.

As much as I love Ware, and he is clearly a top 10 player Williams had the same sack totals as a 300 pound guy.

I'd trade Ware for Williams right now as sad as it is to admit that but he is the only player in the NFL I would trade Ware for. No one else is that young and that good.

The fact so many wanna lower Williams shows that Prisco isn't the only one who needs to bone up on players before making lists.

Wow. That's a pretty strong statement. I think you're crazy, but not b/c I devalue M Williams. Ware's an unbelievable player who's poised for a DPOY-type season.

These lists are subjective, but this one is bad even by subjective standards. Ernie Sims? Fred Taylor? Richard Seymour? These are, or were good players, but top 50? Even with the players who made the list, he's got them in a weird order. Adrian Peterson is a lot higher than 15 in my book. And Mario Williams is a lot lower than six. Champ Bailey at 5? He may still be the best cover CB in the league, but he's not playing like its fifth best player, that's for sure.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't see how Bob sanders gets rated higher than Ed Reed motha**** this guy he's a effN dumb*** and this list is BS

 

[ringmaster]

I have no issues with Mario Williams being above Ware.

I know the Texans stink and people ignore them but Williams all of a sudden turned into Reggie White lite.

As much as I love Ware, and he is clearly a top 10 player Williams had the same sack totals as a 300 pound guy.

I'd trade Ware for Williams right now as sad as it is to admit that but he is the only player in the NFL I would trade Ware for. No one else is that young and that good.

The fact so many wanna lower Williams shows that Prisco isn't the only one who needs to bone up on players before making lists.

Are you high or something both Ware, and Williams had the same number of sacks with 14, so you'll trade an all around athlete in Ware, for just a pass rusher in Williams brilliant.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I have no issues with Mario Williams being above Ware.

I know the Texans stink and people ignore them but Williams all of a sudden turned into Reggie White lite.

As much as I love Ware, and he is clearly a top 10 player Williams had the same sack totals as a 300 pound guy.

I'd trade Ware for Williams right now as sad as it is to admit that but he is the only player in the NFL I would trade Ware for. No one else is that young and that good.

The fact so many wanna lower Williams shows that Prisco isn't the only one who needs to bone up on players before making lists.

DWare has been a dominate pass rusher the last 2 season and showed flashes his rookie season. Mario Williams was average for 8 weeks out of the season and then explode late in the season. No1 is worth trade DWare for this has to be the worst post I've ever read before in my life.

 

[ringmaster]

You've earned my respect over the years but you are welcome.

And you're preaching to the choir about Witten which is why I worded it the way I did. I wouldn't trade him for any other TE in the game. He's not the best pass catcher, the most athletic, or even the best blocker. But he's the best combination there is. I do have to disagree with some about his blocking. He can be woefully inadequate at times esp picking up some blitzes. But I'm nitpicking because in general he does block well. He'll improve on the areas he needs. What a competitor!

What I like about Witten, is that if a defense doesn't watch him he can really hurt them in the passing game especially down the seam.

As for TEs like Winslow, Gonzalez, and Gates you can put either one of them in this Cowboys offense, and none could do what Witten does for this offense.

 

[Vintage]

Some of this stuff is golden. Not the rankings, but the replies in this thread


"He has Ware ranked higher but made nicer statements about Merriman..."


Waaaaaaaa

Who cares? He has Ware ranked higher. That should tell you all you need to know about what he thinks of Ware and Merriman.

Good God, he compliments Ware and its not enough.

_________

As for the Cowboy "exclusions".....yeah, there are some that should be on the list ahead of some other players. But I suspect every fan base believe Prisco left off players from their teams.

 

[gbrittain]

I am not normally very critical of these kinds of lists because they are very subjective.

However a top 50 list with no Tony Romo on it is outrageous.

You are telling me that Wes Welker as a football player is better than Tony Romo?

Yeah, ok.

 

[theogt]

It's official...Bob Sanders is the most overrated player in the NFL.

Seriously, the guy just isn't very good.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I can see arguments for both Ware and Williams.

Ware has more of an established history, so that's on his side.

Williams is a one of a kind rare individual. You can find a lot of undersized speed rushers, but good luck ever finding another 300 lbs. strong side DE who can rack up 14 sacks while taking on a double team against the right tackle and the tight end in the running game. God doesn't make too many of those guys.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The fact Nmandi Asomugha made the list and not DeAngelo Hall at least makes me feel a little better.

 

[bbgun]

Some of this stuff is golden. Not the rankings, but the replies in this thread


"He has Ware ranked higher but made nicer statements about Merriman..."


Waaaaaaaa

Who cares? He has Ware ranked higher. That should tell you all you need to know about what he thinks of Ware and Merriman.

Good God, he compliments Ware and its not enough.

You new here?

Media outrage: where would the Zone be without it?

 

[Big Country]

I did not see Jason Witten on that list, but he listed Kellen "Evel Knievel" Winslow. whatever dude...

 

[AbeBeta]

It's official...Bob Sanders is the most overrated player in the NFL.

Seriously, the guy just isn't very good.

Is he better than Roy Williams?

 

[dbair1967]

I have no issues with Mario Williams being above Ware.

I know the Texans stink and people ignore them but Williams all of a sudden turned into Reggie White lite.

As much as I love Ware, and he is clearly a top 10 player Williams had the same sack totals as a 300 pound guy.

I'd trade Ware for Williams right now as sad as it is to admit that but he is the only player in the NFL I would trade Ware for. No one else is that young and that good.

The fact so many wanna lower Williams shows that Prisco isn't the only one who needs to bone up on players before making lists.

your out of your mind then...Ware is by far the better player and is dominant vs the run, pass and is even excellent at pass coverage

David

 

[dbair1967]

It's official...Bob Sanders is the most overrated player in the NFL.

Seriously, the guy just isn't very good.

I totally agree, and have thought so for a long time...the guy simply doesnt make any plays, yet people foam at the mouth over him over an occasional big hit vs a running back or something

David