Current starting QB's

[ItzKelz]

Of all the starting QB's which ones could have succeeded under the non leadership of Garrett, and high school simple scheme and game planning of Linehan .

The question should be what coach could have done what JG has done since Romo got hurt and missed most of the 2016 season.

 

[OmerV]

It’s an old argument for a reason. And it’s not enough to have permission to change plays, you also have to be good at it because the play you’ve been handed is too often exactly what the opposition is expecting.

I said odd argument, not old, and your comment was about a QB having to ignoring plays to change them, as if it required an act of defiance to change the play rather than just having the authority to do it all along. Of course a QB needs to be good at it, I put that wasn’t what your post was about.

 

[GMO415]

KC's QB

 

[Insomniac]

What’s your definition of succeed? We made the playoffs and won a game. Do you mean who could do better than Dak? Or win a Super Bowl?

The definition of NFL team success is to win the Super Bowl. Anything less is some level of failure. That's a harsh and unrealistic standard. One team succeeds 31 teams fail. That's just the way it is.

The appeal of being a pro sports fan is hope for the future. Teams go thru cycles of success and failure and fans of a team that's been in the low part of the cycle can consider the first year making the playoffs as success because the team made progress. After that it's win or die.

 

[DanA]

I said odd argument, not old, and your comment was about a QB having to ignoring plays to change them, as if it required an act of defiance to change the play rather than just having the authority to do it all along. Of course a QB needs to be good at it, I put that wasn’t what your post was about.

Nah, you've misinterpreted.

It's not an act of defiance, it's the ability to recognize, and the ability to correct predictable/bad play calling. IMO it takes a good QB to do that. Anything else you read into it is on you.

 

[OmerV]

Nah, you've misinterpreted.

It's not an act of defiance, it's the ability to recognize, and the ability to correct predictable/bad play calling. IMO it takes a good QB to do that. Anything else you read into it is on you.

Gotta admit the way you put it - that the QB needs to “ignore Linehan/Garrett” and change plays - seems a little different than merely saying the QB needs to be capable of reading defenses and calling an appropriate audible. In any case, if that's what you meant, that’s cool

 

[Blackrain]

so who coached them up in 2016[/QUOTE

The Oline was good enough we could run the ball at will that's how Garrett got COTY . 5 yrds a carry when the whole stadium knows you are running he ball makes everyones job on the whole team easier especially the coach .

 

[Blackrain]

What bothers me about always blaming the coaches is that its a total cop out on holding players responsible.
I would say the coaches get blamed maybe 20 times more often now than they did with Tony.
Maybe its more apparent now and not just a crutch, but the difference is very extreme.

I believe that is because Dak runs the plays the coach calls 20 times more often then Tony did LOL

 

[Blackrain]

Nah, you've misinterpreted.

It's not an act of defiance, it's the ability to recognize, and the ability to correct predictable/bad play calling. IMO it takes a good QB to do that. Anything else you read into it is on you.

I agree and believe it takes years of experience to learn how to correctly change plays along with countless hours of film study to see the tendency's of different defenses .

Tom brady and Tony Romo didn't learn this overnight . Great defenses also learn how to bait QBs with different looks to do what they want them to do . Its a chess game with the play clock running and at some point after the head set is off its up to the QB to make the right decision .

This is why young QB beaming with talent still take time to develop the mental part of there game and why PROPER COACHING IN THIS FORMATIVE TIME IS VERY IMPORTAT !!

 

[pancakeman]

Please mark Garrett-bashing threads with an appropriate title thank you

 

[CouchCoach]

Quite a few because the lack of success is not just due to play calling but execution as well. Start with the QB's with the quickest releases and move down from there. Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes and Wilson.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Right. We had a top 10 offense most years with Romo in Garretts offense.

And with a bottom tier passing QB , Garrett now is really challenged to develop schemes and plays to suit Daks skill sets.

As usual Garrett is under appreciated. You’d think in a mostly hopeless situation under Jerry in the most dysfunctional organization in the league fans would be more embracing with Garretts influences and contributions reshaping this team continuing to keep relevance through all of the distractions.

We would've never hired Bill Callahan and Scott Linehan to call plays if Garrett was doing such a great job as OC. Garrett's play calls have always been unimaginative (remember his weird fixation with draw plays circa 2012?), and he basically lost his playcaller job for his refusal to utilize Murray and the run game.

Heck, Garrett literally gave up the playcalling to Romo on 3rd down and 2 minute drills, so if anything Romo made Garrett look better than he was.

 

[Diehardblues]

We would've never hired Bill Callahan and Scott Linehan to call plays if Garrett was doing such a great job as OC. Garrett's play calls have always been unimaginative (remember his weird fixation with draw plays circa 2012?), and he basically lost his playcaller job for his refusal to utilize Murray and the run game.

Heck, Garrett literally gave up the playcalling to Romo on 3rd down and 2 minute drills, so if anything Romo made Garrett look better than he was.

My evaluation of Garrett doesn’t really revolve around his game day coaching ability which doesn’t appear to be his strength and why we’re more talent dependent.

I see Garrett as more of a walk around GM influencing Jethro & Son attempting to overcome the distractions the dysfunctional organization they’ve created.

I don’t reallly believe any puppet could have much more success than Garrett has in a situation not many expect to have much success with Jerry’s ways.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Romo ignored them for the most part.

a perpetuated myth.... that feeds the anti-garrett crowd...everything bad is garrett's fault. everything good is somebody else. so garrett is always bad.