Cut the Crap - all of you...

[silverbear]

BTW - Parcells is proving to be one of most overrated coaches of all time - the further he goes the more people say it was really the "other Bill" as in New England's guy.


And I did mean to say Bottomline twice -whether you believe me or not - I could give a ___.

What a coincidence, that's EXACTLY how I feel about your mindless, whiny rant...

 

[Trip]

Frankly-that first season where they went 10-6 was definitely a BAD thing. Face it-the talent on that team was CRAP. Over-achieving ain't a bad thing, but IF we had gone 6-10 instead that season, Parcells and Jones would have started the overhaul last year, and not this.

Okay, it was crap. Maybe he could have recognized that then, instead of making excuses NOW.

He deserves a free pass until when.... 2007?

 

[NJCowboy]

So then at what point does NJ Cowboy's statement become true? Does Parcells just get a free ride with everyone because he's a super bowl winning coach and smarter than everyone else?

This is his 3rd year. This is his team. Maybe he shouldn't be held to the standard of a Super Bowl win right now.... but he should field a playoff team. Teams get turned around in one year all the time. And if the team he inherited was so poor... then how did the hall of fame coach manage to get that team in the playoffs, but not the ones he has upgraded and hand picked?

No excuses should be acceptable if he can't get this team in the playoffs. Make cracks about Campo all you want. Campo missed the playoffs two years in a row, and this will be Parcells 2nd if he doesn't make it.

Thanx man...

And I'm no troll - the mods know this....I'm just damn frustrated...I live in Giants country and that loss is eating at me.

 

[Trip]

Thanx man...

And I'm no troll - the mods know this....I'm just damn frustrated...I live in Giants country and that loss is eating at me.

I'm curious. Hopefully these folks that think it's blasphemy to speak ill of Parcells will tell us how long a rope they're willing to give him.

 

[TunaFan33]

Okay, it was crap. Maybe he could have recognized that then, instead of making excuses NOW.

He deserves a free pass until when.... 2007?

Ummm...Parcells has been on the hot seat MANY times in his career-who said he's been given a free pass here? Joe Gibbs, OTOH, is STILL walking on water in Bush Jr's residence.

Dude-somehow, we had the #1 D in 03. So what? It was nothing more than an under-sized unit that had the luxury of facing Steve Spurrier twice. However-would you do ANYTHING if you were #1? Just like Atlanta this year. Despite glaring weaknesses from last year's squad, they were still GREAT on paper-only for their true colors to come out this year.

 

[Trip]

Ummm...Parcells has been on the hot seat MANY times in his career-who said he's been given a free pass here? Joe Gibbs, OTOH, is STILL walking on water in Bush Jr's residence.

Dude-somehow, we had the #1 D in 03. So what? It was nothing more than an under-sized unit that had the luxury of facing Steve Spurrier twice. However-would you do ANYTHING if you were #1? Just like Atlanta this year. Despite glaring weaknesses from last year's squad, they were still GREAT on paper-only for their true colors to come out this year.

So you're saying then that Parcells knew his defense wasn't any good after 2003, but he just decided not to do anything about it because it happened to be ranked #1 overall?

Did he also know that Pete Hunter couldn't cut it in the NFL and he had no depth at CB?

And as I recall, it was Parcells that chose not to sign a CB despite JJ's wishes. Yet Parcells is willing to point out that JJ forced him to keep QC/Hutch in his first year.

So I'll ask again, if he doesn't make the playoffs, how long until it becomes his problem and not the owners, because so far he's apparently made of teflon.

 

[TunaFan33]

So you're saying then that Parcells knew his defense wasn't any good after 2003, but he just decided not to do anything about it because it happened to be ranked #1 overall?

Did he also know that Pete Hunter couldn't cut it in the NFL and he had no depth at CB?

And as I recall, it was Parcells that chose not to sign a CB despite JJ's wishes. Yet Parcells is willing to point out that JJ forced him to keep QC/Hutch in his first year.

So I'll ask again, if he doesn't make the playoffs, how long until it becomes his problem and not the owners, because so far he's apparently made of teflon.

*sigh*

Again-what would you do IF your D was #1? Like I said, it was crap, yes. However-it WAS the #1 ranked D-so it's not like you can "fix" THAT. Look at Atlanta-their supposedly GREAT D last year is being exposed this year for what it is. The Falcons in 04 were us in 03-overachievers. And like I said too-that's a BAD thing.

And BTW-were there any CB's in FA last year? Troy Vincent? Bobby Taylor? Ty Law? Aren't these guys OLD? Don't blame him-to tell you the truth.

 

[Trip]

*sigh*

Again-what would you do IF your D was #1? Like I said, it was crap, yes. However-it WAS the #1 ranked D-so it's not like you can "fix" THAT. Look at Atlanta-their supposedly GREAT D last year is being exposed this year for what it is. The Falcons in 04 were us in 03-overachievers. And like I said too-that's a BAD thing.

And BTW-were there any CB's in FA last year? Troy Vincent? Bobby Taylor? Ty Law? Aren't these guys OLD? Don't blame him-to tell you the truth.

*gasp*

What would I do if my defense was #1 but I KNEW it wasn't any good?

I would try to fix it.

And so would Parcells.

But he didn't.

So he didn't know it wasn't any good.

And quite frankly, if he would've had more depth at CB, anyone that could play, that defense wouldn't have been so bad last year. It was probably a 9-7 playoff team, and it was his choice not to have that depth.

So I find it rather insulting that as a Cowboys fan, he trys to remind me that his owner forced him to keep two crappy QB's in his first year here, and that somehow has something to do with where the Cowboys are today as an organization.

Here's a bit of news for you and you may have to sit down for this one: Parcells doesn't know everything.

And if you can grasp that then try this one. As fans we have every legitimate right to question him without being told he's a super bowl winning coach so he can't possibly make a wrong decision.

 

[wesleyc288]

This isnt MADDEN NFL 06.....its not a fantasy draft....There is no doubt in my mind that Big Bill is the right man for the job....We are no longer pretenders...we are contenders..next year he will get help for the OL just like the DL this year..you cant do everything at once.....THIS IS REAL LIFE...not a video game

 

[DallasDomination]

Well the guy does have a point.



PArcells is a great coach but some of the things he does are just dumb....Sure I'm not a coach but the facts are there.

Use the damn shogun for crying out loud...So you dont trust the snaper? wooptoe dooo get hiss butt on a roll and fix it.

MAX protect is killing us right now that is the BOTTOM LINE!.

 

[hendog]

BP only deserved one ring... the other he got because the kicker missed... those poor Bills, they should have won the first one... poor Bills
:bang2:

The Bills should have won because they had the dominant team and the gints were playing w/their backup QB but BP out coached Levy. He himself probably deserved that ring more than the first.

 

[hendog]

a monkey's uncle

How 'bout a monkey's uncle's *** with a rat in his pocket?

 

[TunaFan33]

*gasp*

And quite frankly, if he would've had more depth at CB, anyone that could play, that defense wouldn't have been so bad last year. It was probably a 9-7 playoff team, and it was his choice not to have that depth.

FWIW-what REALLY hurt us last year were those back-back home losses against NYG and Pitt that he HAD in the bag. Otherwise-we would have been 4-1 instead of 2-3 going into Lambeau.

So I find it rather insulting that as a Cowboys fan, he trys to remind me that his owner forced him to keep two crappy QB's in his first year here, and that somehow has something to do with where the Cowboys are today as an organization.

WHO in their right minds would keep QC and Hutch? Don't blame Parcells at all, frankly.

And if you can grasp that then try this one. As fans we have every legitimate right to question him without being told he's a super bowl winning coach so he can't possibly make a wrong decision.

Who said he's the greatest coach of all time? I believe I said a number of times he's not the great coach he once was-just merely a good one.

 

[Rush 2112]

A for effort is about all I can say.

 

[Trip]

WHO in their right minds would keep QC and Hutch? Don't blame Parcells at all, frankly.

I don't blame him or anyone for that. It's he that is placing blame on his team's owner.

 

[wxcpo]

As soon as I see Parcells miss a block or throw an interception, miss the hole on a run, drop a pass, or miss a tackle, or fumble the ball...I'm right there with ya buddy!!!!

When are people going to learn...it aint the play that's called...it's the players that can't exicute it properly.

Sure players execute the plays that are sent into them by their coaches. When you continually call runs up the middle knowing you don't have the players to execute those plays because you don't have an OL that can create holes for you then who is at fault? When you put an immobile, statue of a QB behind a patchwork OL knowing there are going to be problems executing plays then who's at fault?

Parcells saw the problems on Sunday yet did very little to make changes to give the team a chance, continuing to try and run the ball up the middle. Julius Jones is not the same back he was last year, be it injury or be it that he simply out played his abilities last year, it is clear he is not the 2004 version of himself. Barber looks promising, but he is just a rookie and will play like one. Try dropping Bledsoe back in a shotgun hopefully giving him some more time. Open up the playbook and try going to Glenn a little more, good things seem to happen when Glenn gets involved in the offense.

 

[Trip]

Does anyone else think that TIME OF POSSESSION and RUNNING THE BALL philosophy of his makes no sense?

I mean yeah, teams that win these categories do win the games most of the time, but couldn't it be that the teams that do win these categories do so BECAUSE they are winning the game?

To focus your gameplan on winning the time of possession battle seems to be not the thing to do to me. It should happen most of the time if you focus on beating the other team and scoring more than they do.

90% of all prison convicts have eaten Irish potatoes. Does that mean if I eat Irish potatoes I'm probably going to prison?

And don't label me a Parcells-hater because I'm not. I recognize the positive things he's done. Just some things recently, coupled with our offense all season, give me pause for concern.

 

[Hostile]

Does anyone else think that TIME OF POSSESSION and RUNNING THE BALL philosophy of his makes no sense?

I mean yeah, teams that win these categories do win the games most of the time, but couldn't it be that the teams that do win these categories do so BECAUSE they are winning the game?

To focus your gameplan on winning the time of possession battle seems to be not the thing to do to me. It should happen most of the time if you focus on beating the other team and scoring more than they do.

90% of all prison convicts have eaten Irish potatoes. Does that mean if I eat Irish potatoes I'm probably going to prison?

And don't label me a Parcells-hater because I'm not. I recognize the positive things he's done. Just some things recently, coupled with our offense all season, give me pause for concern.

Yes, I think this philosophy is wrong for this team. This team is not the 1980's Giants and we don't have Ottis Anderson. This team is more of a quick strike unit than a grind it out and wear them down kind.

Drew Bledsoe's greatest strength is not being played to. I find that really curious because the 2 games we did play to it the scoreboard lit up. Does Drew Bledsoe have the tag of throwing the occasional bad INT? Of course he does. In 16-13 type games that can kill you. With our defense if we were scoring near 26 a game it would hardly cause more than a ripple.

I don't like the offensive philosophy at all. We should be passing to set up the run, not running to set up the pass. By this I mean that Bledsoe should be throwing the ball 15 yards downfield on a regular basis, with the occasional deep throw and the occasional underneath stuff. This would put fewer tacklers in front of Julius and we could capitalize on his speed. He's been negated by the underneath passing.

 

[Rack]

Listen - stop blaming the OL and Bledsoe and the lack of a Fullback....Simply blame the Head Coach and his staff of stooges...
They had 10 days for the Giants - 10! and they came up with horseXXXX on a stick folks....
Like that column said today....we are an enigma - we lead in Time of Possession and Plays run but are 29th in yardage...why? b/c Parcells is an idiot who runs the fake reverse dive 12 times a game for an avg of 2.3 ....An IDIOT!!

Here's the bottom line folks - Parcells lovers/backers/spin doctors included - we must do the one thing our QB does well - throw the downfield for big chunks at a time.

Now don't tell me about the OL or Max Protect - blah blah blah...YOU CAN USE A SHOTGUN ...you can use a Waggle right ala Mark Rypein - Joe Thiesman, Kurt Warner ...Do not make helpless excuses....

Here's the bottom BOTTOMLINE - We don't make the post season after going 7-3 PARCELLS AND CO. SHOULD BE SWEPT OUT the door with a swift kick in the arse...

***YAWN***​

 

[Rack]

The poster does bring up a good point though folks. I may not agree with everything the poster says, but the 'boys did have quite some time to prepare for the game.

So it's Parcells' fault the OL wasn't prepared for the arse whooping the Giants DL put on them?


It doesn't matter what "preparations" were made, if the OL gets dominated the game plan isn't gonna work. PERIOD.