Cut the Crap - all of you...

[el_chevo]

So it's Parcells' fault the OL wasn't prepared for the arse whooping the Giants DL put on them?


It doesn't matter what "preparations" were made, if the OL gets dominated the game plan isn't gonna work. PERIOD.

Well, gee, let me think. I am planning for the game against the Giants. Our tackles have major problems. They have two awesome ends. Hmmmmm...well, should I plan for their maybe dominating our young tackles? Gosh, I just don't know.

 

[Rack]

Well, gee, let me think. I am planning for the game against the Giants. Our tackles have major problems. They have two awesome ends. Hmmmmm...well, should I plan for their maybe dominating our young tackles? Gosh, I just don't know.

Well, gee, ya think that maybe that's why he kept 2 or 3 blockers in to help?


What, you want him to keep 5 extra blockers in to help and have Bledsoe throw the f'in ball to himself??

 

[el_chevo]

Well, gee, ya think that maybe that's why he kept 2 or 3 blockers in to help?


What, you want him to keep 5 extra blockers in to help and have Bledsoe throw the f'in ball to himself??

No, my argument was that given the time to plan for such a game we could have come up with a better plan to overcome the strength of the Giants' defensive ends. Like I stated before, I am not in complete agreement with the original statement made. I do believe the poster is correct in bringing it to our attention that we should have planned better for the game.

 

[Rack]

No, my argument was that given the time to plan for such a game we could have come up with a better plan to overcome the strength of the Giants' defensive ends. Like I stated before, I am not in complete agreement with the original statement made. I do believe the poster is correct in bringing it to our attention that we should have planned better for the game.

Like what, magically make our Tackles good? Turn them from average (at best) to great in 10 days?


We didn't get beat schematically, we got beat physically.

 

[skinsterp]

btw parcells will focus on OL and offense over the offseason, he knows what an issue it is, and we saw what he did when he focused on the defensive side of the ball.

BP better get it right soon. His contract is up after next year (if he makes it that far). If & when it happens, who would you like to replace him with if you had your druthers?

 

[1fisher]

BP better get it right soon. His contract is up after next year (if he makes it that far). If & when it happens, who would you like to replace him with if you had your druthers?

IF he makes it that far???? He's not coaching for Danny boy Snyder, you know???

 

[superpunk]

BP only deserved one ring... the other he got because the kicker missed... those poor Bills, they should have won the first one... poor Bills
:bang2:

So, do we get our three losses at the foot of our kicker back this year, too? If so, I'm making reservations for Detroit.

 

[superpunk]

Well, gee, ya think that maybe that's why he kept 2 or 3 blockers in to help?


What, you want him to keep 5 extra blockers in to help and have Bledsoe throw the f'in ball to himself??

Bledsoe could totally do it, too. He's like the Flash. He just thinks his super powers might be too much for us mortals to handle, so he keeps them under wraps.

 

[visionary]

I loved it when we signed parcells and i still believe in him. I think he gets this turned around because he is a smart guy with tons of experience with a vested interest (his legacy- this is likely his last coaching job). my problem with him has been that he does not tolerate dissent. to me, great leaders (in all spheres of life) walk alone and have a vision but always have one or two strong people that they really listen to and whose opinion they value who will tell them when they are making mistakes. it seems the current version of parcells does not have that so there is no one to talk to him when he is struggling. zimmer and peyton do not come across that way, i am sure parcells does not value jj's football knowledge. sometimes the even the smartest among us can look at things too hard, be too close to something, and miss the forest for the trees and need someone to pull us back and show us the bigger picture..

just a thought.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So then at what point does NJ Cowboy's statement become true? Does Parcells just get a free ride with everyone because he's a super bowl winning coach and smarter than everyone else?

This is his 3rd year. This is his team. Maybe he shouldn't be held to the standard of a Super Bowl win right now.... but he should field a playoff team. Teams get turned around in one year all the time. And if the team he inherited was so poor... then how did the hall of fame coach manage to get that team in the playoffs, but not the ones he has upgraded and hand picked?

No excuses should be acceptable if he can't get this team in the playoffs. Make cracks about Campo all you want. Campo missed the playoffs three years in a row, and this will be Parcells 2nd if he doesn't make it.

maybe our team needed a whole revamping, and you can't fix every hole in one offseason? and can't make up for 5 years of poor personnel decisions and horrible drafting in one, or even 2, offseasons? and as far as I know, the playoffs are a very, real possibility

 

[TunaFan33]

maybe our team needed a whole revamping, and you can't fix every hole in one offseason? and can't make up for 5 years of poor personnel decisions and horrible drafting in one offseason? and as far as I know, the playoffs are a very, real possibility

FWIW-teams that have turned it around in 2 years under a new coach ALREADY had a nice foundation to start with.

Other than Jake Delhomme and Stephen Davis, Jon Fox all but inherited the same team George Seifert
had prior. Not that Seifert would have done a fabulous job or anything if he stayed, but that team just needed a better mind set at coach.

Sure-Bill P hasn't been perfect(the RT screw-ups were all his). However-b/w him making the personnel decisions and Jerry in the post-JJ years, Bill has done a heck of alot better.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

yep, just look at who's still on the roster, now, from when Parcells 1st took over the team

Cundiff, Larry Allen, Flozell, Dat, Roy Williams, Glover...

that's all that's left from before Parcells took over

and some people are still wondering why we're not serious contenders yet *rolls eyes*

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Bill has indeed become teflon as someone pointed out.

I read a thread a day or so ago about what Bill has done since his 2 SBs. Hmmm...

At this point New England Bill looks like the mastermind, compared to Parcells.

So many claim Gibbs is past his prime and doesnt get todays game, yet Parcells is of the same regime and hasnt won a SB in all the time Gibbs was retired.

These coaches play old school smashmouth football. Some believe it doesnt work, yet teams like the Patriots, Bucs, and Ravens have proven it does (with their respective coaches).

Another poster keeps talking about the #1 D. Whip-tee-do #1 against sub par offensive teams overall. To not address the even potential weaknesses on D when the offense was as you say #1 in the beginning of the season is a poor decision.

There is a reason that NE Bill was so successful. That reason is that you always look to improve, no matter how good you seem. The Patriots won a SB with arguably one of the best QBs in football, they sign Dillon as a FA.

 

[TunaFan33]

Bill has indeed become teflon as someone pointed out.

I read a thread a day or so ago about what Bill has done since his 2 SBs. Hmmm...

At this point New England Bill looks like the mastermind, compared to Parcells.

So many claim Gibbs is past his prime and doesnt get todays game, yet Parcells is of the same regime and hasnt won a SB in all the time Gibbs was retired.

These coaches play old school smashmouth football. Some believe it doesnt work, yet teams like the Patriots, Bucs, and Ravens have proven it does (with their respective coaches).

Another poster keeps talking about the #1 D. Whip-tee-do #1 against sub par offensive teams overall. To not address the even potential weaknesses on D when the offense was as you say #1 in the beginning of the season is a poor decision.

There is a reason that NE Bill was so successful. That reason is that you always look to improve, no matter how good you seem. The Patriots won a SB with arguably one of the best QBs in football, they sign Dillon as a FA.

That and their biggest success is probably...Vinetteri. Alot of people seem to forget he DID kick that 45 yard game tying FG at the end of regulation way back(in poor conditions) against Oakland-that started all this broo-hah-hah.

Anyhow-some have pointed out that alot of Parcells' success is probably having Bill B. on his staff
for so many years. The 2 Super Bowls, the Super Bowl birth in NE, and the AFC Title birth with NYJ in only 2 years had Bill B. at his side. However-w/o him-only a couple of playoff births, and that's it.

I dunno-have always really liked him-but maybe he's past his prime, maybe he doesn't have Belichick/Coughlin/Groh/Crenell/Weis at his side anymore, or maybe he had a much better front office in NY and NE.

I guess we'll see as time pans out. Dick Vermeil was once on the hot seat in St. Louis-only for him to pull a 360 since.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Dick Vermeil took the Rams to winning the SB. He was not any any type of hot seat. I think he had one bad season with them.

He retired again, and returned a year later to try to rebuild the Chiefs, which seem pretty legit with him at the helm overall.

 

[Rack]

SandT, you have a false sense of the type of coach BP is. He'd prefer to be a balanced offense, but with the situation at tackle right now he's forced to run the ball more.


And BP's job is NOT in danger. Seriousy, where'd you come up with that crap? The cowboys had almost NO foundation of players to build from before BP took over. He's literally had to build them from the ground up. Success doesn't start in one season, it starts 3, 4, 5, 6 seasons before (it actually occurs). The cowboys didn't have many players from the 2, 3, 4, 5 seasons before he took over. He's done an excellent job of bringing in quality youth and quality veterans to help teach that youth how it's done.