Cut Them, Fire them. Burn them All

[T-RO]

As for NY -- No DRC. No JPP. Cowboys D fully healthy. Jordy Nelson played in WC, not in divisional. Any questions?

(I'd also say that GB held nearly every down of the WC game without being flagged, but that didn't seem to change yesterday).

After DRC went down...Giants scored 38 points in 3 quarters. Packers might have missed their best playmaker but I didn't see a team lacking in that department. Pack still had 3 or 4 good ones on the field Sunday.

No. I have no questions.

 

[beacamdim]

Touchy Giants fan perhaps lol . NY d got roasted because the offense sucks. Becky didn't show up she was Bieberized. Keep telling urself DRC was the difference and live in your land of delusion. And now the excuse of no JPP alrighty then

Giants D didn't get roasted for any reason other than Trevin Wade had to step in and cover the slot, which Rodgers (like every other QB with an arm and a pulse) exploited over and over again.

If you don't realize the role that DRC played in a Giants D that gave up less than 18 PPG over the 16-game season, then you don't know defense. Which, come to think of it, kind of makes sense if you are a Cowboys fan -- how could recognize what you never see?

 

[StarBoyz83]

Packers 38, Vikings 25
Packers 31, Lions 24
Packers 30, Bears 27
Packers 38, Seahawks 10
Packers 38, Giants 13
Packers 34, Cowboys 31

I can't believe those Packers put 30+ points on us. Fire Marinelli. Cut everyone on the defense. Burn them all!

I honestly don't see how anybody didn't expect at least 28 put on us.

 

[beacamdim]

After DRC went down...Giants scored 38 points in 3 quarters. Packers might have missed their best playmaker but I didn't see a team lacking in that department. Pack still had 3 or 4 good ones on the field Sunday.

No. I have no questions.

Ha. I wish the Giants could score 38 points in ten quarters, let alone three.

Take two of the top four players off the vaunted Cowboys D (you rank em, you pick em, doesn't matter), throw in a Hail Mary that isn't in the gameplan or the flow of play, and see how the Cowboys do. Spoiler alert: There will be blood.

As I said above, losing DRC and having to play Wade killed the Giants, and really made them a different team than they were even without JPP, and definitely with him.

At worst, the Giants had an off day. Just like the Cowboys offense did against the Giants twice, right? I mean the Giants had nothing to do with that, right? They just got lucky holding Dak, Zeke and crew to 13 PPG I guess.

Bottom line -- any suggestion that the fact that the Giants gave up 38 against GB and Dallas gave up 34 means that the Dallas D is better is just ridiculous.

If every Cowboys fan on this board were able to swap the Dallas D for the NY D they'd do so in the blink of an eye. Case closed.

 

[T-RO]

yeah let t-Ro explain our O's slow start, and not getting the ball to elliot more, not running more, the spike, time mgmt,
getting caught with 12 men on the field, butler in the huddle etc etc,
I blame the coaches not our players.

Offense's slow start?! I saw a Cowboys offense that marched right down the field. Stopped only by a contrived penalty for 15 yards.

We should have run more? We averaged 9 yards per pass. Walk me through how Zeke matches that. We got back in the game by passing. We marched down the field at the end of the game by passing.

I might have had quibbles on a few short yardage/red zone calls. Quibbles. We lost because we lack two, three...maybe four players on defense. That was no surprise or mystery.

If anything Marinelli deserves a huge bonus.

 

[SoBlue128]

Giants D didn't get roasted for any reason other than Trevin Wade had to step in and cover the slot, which Rodgers (like every other QB with an arm and a pulse) exploited over and over again.

If you don't realize the role that DRC played in a Giants D that gave up less than 18 PPG over the 16-game season, then you don't know defense. Which, come to think of it, kind of makes sense if you are a Cowboys fan -- how could recognize what you never see?

Typical touchy know it all Giants fan trolling boards looking to see if their name is mentioned. Your offense sucked and put a liability on your defense plain and simple. It wouldn't have mattered once Arod heated up whether DRC was out there or not. Live in ur land of delusion lmao.

 

[beacamdim]

Typical touchy know it all Giants fan trolling boards looking to see if their name is mentioned. Your offense sucked and put a liability on your defense plain and simple. It wouldn't have mattered once Arod heated up whether DRC was out there or not. Live in ur land of delusion lmao.

Touchy? Know it all? I know you guys utterly choked away your season yesterday but your hostility and snark is uncalled for and unprovoked.

I'm a Giants fan, yes, but you can't reasonably call me a troll. My wife and stepson are HUGE Dallas fans, and I (often to my chagrin) necessarily am very up on all things Cowboys, and I shoot straight.

You obviously don't know how to read carefully because if you could, you would realize that I never said anywhere that losing DRC affected the ultimate outcome, only that it was a large part of the explanation as to why GB was able to score 38 -- and this was after having been forced to punt on their first FIVE possessions. GB was and is a better team than the Giants. And they were and are a better team than Dallas. Atlanta? I'm not so sure.

Anyway, nice to meet you, and thanks for the attitude. Enjoy year 22 of your Super Bowl drought.

 

[SoBlue128]

Ha. I wish the Giants could score 38 points in ten quarters, let alone three.

Take two of the top four players off the vaunted Cowboys D (you rank em, you pick em, doesn't matter), throw in a Hail Mary that isn't in the gameplan or the flow of play, and see how the Cowboys do. Spoiler alert: There will be blood.

As I said above, losing DRC and having to play Wade killed the Giants, and really made them a different team than they were even without JPP, and definitely with him.

At worst, the Giants had an off day. Just like the Cowboys offense did against the Giants twice, right? I mean the Giants had nothing to do with that, right? They just got lucky holding Dak, Zeke and crew to 13 PPG I guess.

Bottom line -- any suggestion that the fact that the Giants gave up 38 against GB and Dallas gave up 34 means that the Dallas D is better is just ridiculous.

If every Cowboys fan on this board were able to swap the Dallas D for the NY D they'd do so in the blink of an eye. Case closed.

And the vaunted Giants defense had a bad day cause DRC was out. Arod steam rolled that defense plain and simple. And for the record would i trade the Dallas defense for the Giants hell yes who wouldn't. I simply pointed out to a cowboys poster that GB was rolling on O and put up numbers on teams far better than what is being put out on the field by the cowboys. You just got touchy cause ur pissy Giants were mentioned. If u notice I put the > sign, that means greater than so in other word if GB did that to those defenses we should be happy that it wasn't more than the 34 they put on the Cowboys defense. Change ur pad and take some midol

 

[T-RO]

Touchy? Know it all? I know you guys utterly choked away your season yesterday but your hostility and snark is uncalled for and unprovoked.

18 point comeback is about as clutch as it gets in the history of NFL playoffs. And when we needed to score at the end we marched down and got 3.

You are choking on your own bitterness, sounds like to me.

Rogers just had the ball last. Oh well.

 

[beacamdim]

And the vaunted Giants defense had a bad day cause DRC was out. Arod steam rolled that defense plain and simple. And for the record would i trade the Dallas defense for the Giants hell yes who wouldn't. I simply pointed out to a cowboys poster that GB was rolling on O and put up numbers on teams far better than what is being put out on the field by the cowboys. You just got touchy cause ur pissy Giants were mentioned. If u notice I put the > sign, that means greater than so in other word if GB did that to those defenses we should be happy that it wasn't more than the 34 they put on the Cowboys defense. Change ur pad and take some midol

Like I said, I have nothing to be touchy about -- I've got no problem acknowledging that GB is better than NY, and deserved to win. Just like on Sunday -- they proved they were the better team and deserved to win. No shame in anyone's losing to a better team led by a generational talent.

The OP asked for an explanation as to why GB scored more against the "better" defenses they have played during their win streak than against the weaker ones. So I answered about the NY game, which is all I can speak fully about. In the words (or, I guess, word) of the great (and heartbreaking) Aaron Rodgers, "Relax".

 

[beacamdim]

18 point comeback is about as clutch as it gets in the history of NFL playoffs. And when we needed to score we marched down and got 3.

You are choking on your own bitterness, sounds like to me.

Rogers just had the ball last. Oh well.

That 18 point comeback WAS clutch. But just like OBJ's catch, it came in a loss -- and is similarly a footnote. So it goes.

 

[Tabascocat]

No one is arguing that we have a better defense than NY. It is simply due to the Giants inept offense that puts them at a disadvantage. Just like our offense makes our defense look less bad. NY's defense is a lot better than the Cowboys....I said it.

Oh, Dallas is better than GB, they just got some extra help from our coaches and the refs at inopportune times.

 

[T-RO]

That 18 point comeback WAS clutch. But just like OBJ's catch, it came in a loss -- and is similarly a footnote. So it goes.

Footnote?

I say our rookies--who were dipping their toe in the deep waters for the first time--delivered their side of one of the most legendary games in NFL history. Played at an absolute elite level. They did more than enough to win.

And once we get Jaylon Smith plugged in, with Tapper, and a few other pieces for our defense...we will be a FORCE.

Footnote? That would be the Giants who didn't even show up in Green Bay. Most fans turned that game off well before it was even over. (Good gawd I feel pity for Giants--that team is such a bore)

The more relevant term here is 'FootRest.' That's what the Giants are going to be for the Cowboys over the next five years. We are young and we are rising.

 

[SoBlue128]

Like I said, I have nothing to be touchy about -- I've got no problem acknowledging that GB is better than NY, and deserved to win. Just like on Sunday.

The OP asked for an explanation has to why GB scored more against the "better" defenses they have played during their win streak than against the weaker ones. So I answered about the NY game, which is all I can speak fully about. In the words of the great (and heartbreaking) Aaron Rodgers, "Relax".

ARod is a freaking stud and the number he performed here yesterday was a thing of beauty to witness. I saw it firsthand from my seat in the stadium. I don't go around trolling boards looking for someone'to hate on the team I follow so I can lash out. That's a pretty sad life to live. So again change your pad take a midol and have a great day sweetheart Go to bed PDemon

 

[beacamdim]

Footnote?

I say our rookies--who were dipping their toe in the deep waters for the first time--delivered their side of one of the most legendary games in NFL history. Played at an absolute elite level. They did more than enough to win.

And once we get Jaylon Smith plugged in, with Tapper, and a few other pieces for our defense...we will be a FORCE.

Footnote? That would be the Giants who didn't even show up in Green Bay. Most fans turned the game off well before it was even over.

The more relevant term here is 'FootRest.' That's what the Giants are going to be for the Cowboys over the next five years. We are young and we are rising.

Come on, man!! Are you serious? Only a Cowboy fan would call a playoff LOSS legendary. Or talk smack about things that haven't even happened yet -- and might not ever.

You are correct -- the Giants got whooped in GB and were one and done. So was Dallas.

We've got two Giants rings in the last 10 years to keep things in perspective. I'm sure your two playoff WINS in the last TWENTY-ONE years (and counting) comfort you as well.

No one denies that these Cowboys have potential. But seriously, tone it down until Dak joins Eli in the two-time champ club. He very well might.

Peace.

 

[ilykdrama]

Don't think Rogers cared too much about our seeding.

That list of victims includes some of the best defenses in the league--better than ours. For anyone remotely surprised about what the Packer offense was able to do...what were you thinking?

I can tell you what I was thinking. "Rodgers is really good. Playing lights out."

Then I remembered....Our D has been playing decent all year. They have a weeks rest. We have a control the clock offense. Dak and Zeke will be able to score. Dez will get involved. Surely DLaw or Irving can make one play.

Then the entire defense let our team down.

Does that make me crazy for thinking like that?

 

[T-RO]

Come on, man!! Are you serious? Only a Cowboy fan would call a playoff LOSS legendary. Or talk smack about things that haven't even happened yet -- and might not ever.

You are correct -- the Giants got whooped in GB and were one and done. So was Dallas.

We've got two Giants rings in the last 10 years to keep things in perspective. I'm sure your two playoff WINS in the last TWENTY-ONE years (and counting) comfort you as well.

No one denies that these Cowboys have potential. But seriously, tone it down until Dak joins Eli in the two-time champ club.

Peace.

That was a legendary comeback and a legendary game. Epic performance. Green Bay got one more possession than we did and they capitalized. Oh well. I am proud...even delighted at how our boys played.

There may be some bitter fans here but I'm not one. Boys did some balling.

Meanwhile the Giants crapped on themselves.

 

[Blackspider214]

Packers 38, Vikings 25
Packers 31, Lions 24
Packers 30, Bears 27
Packers 38, Seahawks 10
Packers 38, Giants 13
Packers 34, Cowboys 31

I can't believe those Packers put 30+ points on us. Fire Marinelli. Cut everyone on the defense. Burn them all!

So us being a 1 seed at home is the same as Rodgers doing this to spare teams like Detroit, Chicago and Minn? Heck, even Seattle's defense is not that good these days.

If your expectations as a 1 seed at home is that of those teams listed, I don't know what to say. Mine were higher than that. I expected more plays to be made. Heck, about the only time we were able to stop Rodgers is when he was just missed on some passes. Hardly anything to do with what we did besides a few times.

 

[SoBlue128]

And Poof with the classic peace Parademon1 is gone to go back and report on the Giants message board about how delusional Cowboys fans are and is why he can't stand them. He will even provide links lol. He does this so much so that even the Giants posters can't stand em lmao must really suck to not even be wanted by your own

 

[T-RO]

I can tell you what I was thinking. "Rodgers is really good. Playing lights out."

Then I remembered....Our D has been playing decent all year. They have a weeks rest. We have a control the clock offense. Dak and Zeke will be able to score. Dez will get involved. Surely DLaw or Irving can make one play.

Then the entire defense let our team down.

Does that make me crazy for thinking like that?

Of course it doesn't make you crazy, but it does make your appraisal a bit off.

Our defense hasn't played that great in '16 and has inferior talent at four or five positions. Marinelli hid a lot of weaknesses through scheme, guts and duct tape. Pass defense was ranked 23rd.

DLaw had one sack all season (1!), could barely play with a back that will need surgery...and was going up against one of the best o-lines in the business. Irving has had two big games but both against backups.

We need 3, 4...maybe 5 players on defense. Jaylon and Tapper could be two. We get two or three good ones in the draft and free agency...we're in business.