D. Ware signing wakeup call

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Double Trouble;2662593 said:
They can always franchise him. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

And let some team give up the picks to take him away?

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Monster Heel;2662595 said:
And let some team give up the picks to take him away?

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Yeah, there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't think twice about giving up 2 #1's for a player like DWare w/one year left on his rookie contract. At least, there shouldn't be.

On a sidenote; I wonder what Lawrence Taylor would've been worth in this era.
 

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RoboQB;2662771 said:
Yeah, there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't think twice about giving up 2 #1's for a player like DWare w/one year left on his rookie contract. At least, there shouldn't be.

On a sidenote; I wonder what Lawrence Taylor would've been worth in this era.
Even if the CBA is extended and 2010 is a capped year, we all need to remember that there are two types of franchise designations - exclusive and non-exclusive. An exclusive franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. A non-exclusive franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position in the previous year, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation. I feel certain that Ware would be designated as an exclusive franchise player, but even if he weren't, very few teams have two first round picks in any given draft.
 

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htownboyzfan;2662782 said:
Even if the CBA is extended and 2010 is a capped year, we all need to remember that there are two types of franchise designations - exclusive and non-exclusive. An exclusive franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. A non-exclusive franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position in the previous year, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation. I feel certain that Ware would be designated as an exclusive franchise player, but even if he weren't, very few teams have two first round picks in any given draft.

That's why they can offer a first rounder from a current draft year and a first rounder for the following draft year, no ?

And can't they poison pill the "non-exclusive franchise tag" from what you're telling me?
 

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htownboyzfan;2662782 said:
Even if the CBA is extended and 2010 is a capped year, we all need to remember that there are two types of franchise designations - exclusive and non-exclusive. An exclusive franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. A non-exclusive franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position in the previous year, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation. I feel certain that Ware would be designated as an exclusive franchise player, but even if he weren't, very few teams have two first round picks in any given draft.

Thanks for clarifying.
 

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hardhittin31;2662786 said:
That's why they can offer a first rounder from a current draft year and a first rounder for the following draft year, no ?

And can't they poison pill the "non-exclusive franchise tag" from what you're telling me?

I was thinking this as well.
 

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All this $100m talk to play a sport is mind blowing! In this economic crisis we're in, it's almost sickening to think about it. This is the side of american sports I'd rather not even ponder.
 

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hardhittin31;2662786 said:
That's why they can offer a first rounder from a current draft year and a first rounder for the following draft year, no ?

And can't they poison pill the "non-exclusive franchise tag" from what you're telling me?
No, the two first rounders must be from the same draft. However, you are correct when you mention the poison pill for "non-exclusive" franchise players, which have gained in popularity in recent years. That is why either the exclusive franchise tender or signing Ware to a new long-term deal are really the only sure-fire ways to keep him in Dallas.
 

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htownboyzfan;2662803 said:
No, the two first rounders must be from the same draft. However, you are correct when you mention the poison pill for "non-exclusive" franchise players, which have gained in popularity in recent years. That is why either the exclusive franchise tender or signing Ware to a new long-term deal are really the only sure-fire ways to keep him in Dallas.

Gotcha, thanks.
 

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htownboyzfan;2662803 said:
No, the two first rounders must be from the same draft. However, you are correct when you mention the poison pill for "non-exclusive" franchise players, which have gained in popularity in recent years. That is why either the exclusive franchise tender or signing Ware to a new long-term deal are really the only sure-fire ways to keep him in Dallas.

Good stuff... Thanks.
 

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I was not aware that both picks have to come from the same draft.
Are you sure of that?
 

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Ware will get 8yrs 120 Million w/ 45 million guaranteed. Thats where the market is now. you are worth what someone is willing to pay. Washington would pay that just to not have to play against him.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ratliff holds out next wanting a new deal.
 

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kowboyMarlon;2662842 said:
Ware will get 8yrs 120 Million w/ 45 million guaranteed. Thats where the market is now. you are worth what someone is willing to pay. Washington would pay that just to not have to play against him.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ratliff holds out next wanting a new deal.
The second part of your post is interesting to me. Can anyone recall a player UNDER CONTRACT for Dallas during the Jerry Jones era who has held out for more money? I honestly cannot think of one at the moment......
 

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htownboyzfan;2662847 said:
The second part of your post is interesting to me. Can anyone recall a player UNDER CONTRACT for Dallas during the Jerry Jones era who has held out for more money? I honestly cannot think of one at the moment......


I forget his name. The linebacker we got from houston in 90 if I remember correctly, didnt he do this and then him and jerry had some sort of blowup and he was released?

My memory isnt working correctly right now So I cant remember any names!
 

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htownboyzfan;2662847 said:
The second part of your post is interesting to me. Can anyone recall a player UNDER CONTRACT for Dallas during the Jerry Jones era who has held out for more money? I honestly cannot think of one at the moment......

Yes Emmitt Smith in 1995 after the 0-2 Start
 

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theebs;2662852 said:
I forget his name. The linebacker we got from houston in 90 if I remember correctly, didnt he do this and then him and jerry had some sort of blowup and he was released?

My memory isnt working correctly right now So I cant remember any names!
I know who you are talking about but his name escapes me as well!
 
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