CFZ Dak’s Playoff Numbers: Niners vs Others

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Dak’s performances the last two seasons versus the Niners have created a narrative that Dak is a bad playoff QB. When in fact, he’s just been bad against the Niners.

Dak Playoffs vs 49ers
  • 0-2
  • 57.5% Completion
  • 230 yards/game
  • 2 TD, 3 INT
  • 66.7 Pass Rating

Dak Playoffs vs Everyone Else
  • 2-2
  • 66.9% Completion
  • 274.8 yards/game
  • 9 TD, 2 INT
  • 107.4 Pass Rating

We quite possibly make an NFCCG if we avoid them the last two years. But to be the conference champ and SB representative you have to beat the best.

The Niners have arguably the best roster in football top to bottom; certainly in the top 3. There are only going to be a few QB’s on earth who can beat those type of teams consistently. We need to have our own version of an elite team and competitive coaching, which I think we may now have.

Hopefully our offensive additions and defensive fortitude are enough to get over the hump this year. We played them better last year than the year before.

If there’s a world where we don’t play them, Dak has shown he can play more than well enough to win.
all the top QBs are in the AFC, but best rosters in the NFL are
1- Eagles
2- Niners

our problem has been we play a soft style and niners are physical and in both games their Lines manhandled our lines.
 

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If parsing it down based on opponents, let's parse it down based on years:

2016-2018

1-2 record
66 of 103 64.1% Comp % 794 Yards 5 TD's 2 INT's 264.7 Yards/game 97.25 Pass Rating

2019-2022

1-2 record
71 of 113 62.8% Comp % 765 Yards 6 TD's 3 INT's 255 Yards/game 85.4 Pass Rating


Based on numbers Dak has shown a regression in playoff performance.
there are lies, there are damn lies and then there is statistics.

well, duh, of course it looks worse, because as the OP said, its against the niners and we played niners twice in the pat 2 years.

unbelievable.

but the good news is you will disappear after cowboys first win. you can't stand cowboys winning
 

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Regression in that he had a good game against a crap opponent sandwiched between 2 crap games before and after. My point is if you want to be selective basing his playoff performance on the rest of the league and the 49ers so as to show that Dak is a playoff-worthy QB then there shouldn't be an issue basing his performance on past years and recent years to show a different angle.
last year playoff performance against Tampa a top 10 defense !? really that's crap opponent. a top 10 defense is craap now? great to know :thumbup:

the good news is you will disappear after the cowboys first win
 

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If you are going to be an insulting puke than at least reference my service with a little more respect maggot.
wow, you complain about other people name calling and now this!!! you are a hypocrite.
just like in your other post complaining about free speech while excercising free speech

and btw, we all thank you for your service. what would real soldiers eat without you peeling all those potatoes. somebody has to keep the army fed.
 

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The scrub Bucs, skew his numbers

Dak has played well in only two playoff games. The Packers in 2016 and the Bucs this past season.

He has 4 TDs and 4 Ints in the four other games outside of those two…
the scrub bucs? they were a top 10 defense...is that scrub in your book? we laid 5 TDs on them...

hmmm, go figure...the goal post on wheels moves again
 

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the scrub bucs? they were a top 10 defense...is that scrub in your book? we laid 5 TDs on them...

hmmm, go figure...the goal post on wheels moves again
Yes the scrub bucs. A team that shouldnt have even been in the playoffs

Now we are going to pretend the 8-9 Bucs were a good team? LMAO
 

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Yes the scrub bucs. A team that shouldnt have even been in the playoffs

Now we are going to pretend the 8-9 Bucs were a good team? LMAO
it still doesn't change the fact that their defense was a top 10 defense. I never said the bucs were a good team. I said the Bucs defense was top 10.

you are bothered because you felt you have to respond, but didn't know how to respond. you seem frustrated
 

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all the top QBs are in the AFC, but best rosters in the NFL are
1- Eagles
2- Niners

our problem has been we play a soft style and niners are physical and in both games their Lines manhandled our lines.
I agree, the best top to bottom rosters are in the NFC.

In 2021 the 49’ers played more physically than Dallas. McCarthy and the team noticed that and set about changing it. Both OL they drafted last year, Tyler Smith and Waletzko play a mean, physical brand of football. They clearly wanted more attitude and physical play there. They also started looking at DT’s like Hankins (and now Mazi) to help the other side of the ball. Plus, Biadasz has a bit of a mean streak himself.

In the 2022 playoffs, the SF DL played well but there was no more bully ball against the Dallas OL, and the SF offense was having no luck against the Dallas defense. Not much luck in the run game until near the end of the game.

The reasons for that loss in ‘22 had way more to do with being under powered at WR, losing their biggest weapon in Pollard, and the resulting pressure this put on Dak and the defense. A 49’er defender even said after the game that once Pollard went down, they didn’t worry about the run game and just flooded the passing lanes. The Cowboys also had a big hole opposite Diggs at CB, which was problematic, although Quinn did a hell of a job trying to work around that. None of that was because of physical play by the Niners.

The Cowboys have now worked to fix those issues and have done a very good job of it, along with continuing to get physical players. If both teams stay healthy all year and meet again in the playoffs, Dallas will be much better situated to compete head to head with that team. They’ve done well with that and the large improvement we saw in 2022 should now be even larger. I’m actually very pleased that the team saw their problems and have, in large part, fixed them.
 

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I agree, the best top to bottom rosters are in the NFC.

In 2021 the 49’ers played more physically than Dallas. McCarthy and the team noticed that and set about changing it. Both OL they drafted last year, Tyler Smith and Waletzko play a mean, physical brand of football. They clearly wanted more attitude and physical play there. They also started looking at DT’s like Hankins (and now Mazi) to help the other side of the ball. Plus, Biadasz has a bit of a mean streak himself.

In the 2022 playoffs, the SF DL played well but there was no more bully ball against the Dallas OL, and the SF offense was having no luck against the Dallas defense. Not much luck in the run game until near the end of the game.

The reasons for that loss in ‘22 had way more to do with being under powered at WR, losing their biggest weapon in Pollard, and the resulting pressure this put on Dak and the defense. A 49’er defender even said after the game that once Pollard went down, they didn’t worry about the run game and just flooded the passing lanes. The Cowboys also had a big hole opposite Diggs at CB, which was problematic, although Quinn did a hell of a job trying to work around that. None of that was because of physical play by the Niners.

The Cowboys have now worked to fix those issues and have done a very good job of it, along with continuing to get physical players. If both teams stay healthy all year and meet again in the playoffs, Dallas will be much better situated to compete head to head with that team. They’ve done well with that and the large improvement we saw in 2022 should now be even larger. I’m actually very pleased that the team saw their problems and have, in large part, fixed them.
post season is often about who gets there healthiest. losing Steele also hurt, as Tyron just wasn't up to par at RT.

we need to be very physical and punch them in the mouth as they say. they bullied us two years in a row.
 

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post season is often about who gets there healthiest. losing Steele also hurt, as Tyron just wasn't up to par at RT.

we need to be very physical and punch them in the mouth as they say. they bullied us two years in a row.
You think they bullied us in 2022 the same way they did in 2021?

Good point about Steele too.
 

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You think they bullied us in 2022 the same way they did in 2021?

Good point about Steele too.
I think both years they bullied us. 2021, they rushed for 160 plus and their front 4 just man handled our OL. they were dropping 7 into coverage and still getting pressure.

last year, their DL still bullied us and then with pollard out, they had no worries about run game and dropped 7 into coverage. by middle of 2nd quarter they realized Lamb is the only WR they have to worry about and started to blanket him.
 

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I think both years they bullied us. 2021, they rushed for 160 plus and their front 4 just man handled our OL. they were dropping 7 into coverage and still getting pressure.

last year, their DL still bullied us and then with pollard out, they had no worries about run game and dropped 7 into coverage. by middle of 2nd quarter they realized Lamb is the only WR they have to worry about and started to blanket him.
Well, I saw it differently, but I’m not going to argue about it. The problem, IMO, was not much in the WR corps and even less at RB. I saw Dak dropping back and with no open WR’s held on to the ball too long, giving the rush time to get there.

The Niners have some good talent on the DL, including the NFL Defensive player of the year. If you don’t get the ball out quickly, those guys will get there on any OL. It didn’t look like bullying to me..

However, people see the game differently, so let’s just hope they meet them again this year in the playoffs and win the damn game.
 

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Cowboys vs. Forty-Niners all-time series record____
19-19-1
Regular season: San Francisco leads 15-14-1
Playoffs: Dallas leads 5-4
80’s and Mid-90’s they sure owned us in the Playoffs. As great as those 92-93 NFC Championships were, the Boys were legitimately scared of them by 95 and lucked out when Green Bay won.

Nothing wrong hoping the same for our team. Rather play the Eagles, we matchup better.

Also… all-time record probably not a good measure because people forget that the 49ers were one of the NFL’s worst franchises until Walsh took over.
 

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it still doesn't change the fact that their defense was a top 10 defense. I never said the bucs were a good team. I said the Bucs defense was top 10.

you are bothered because you felt you have to respond, but didn't know how to respond. you seem frustrated
You are in here unraveling due to the fact that Dak “only struggles in the playoffs vs the 9ers” lie has been debunked

You can keep quoting me if you want, but the facts are the facts. Tampa was a bad team and I dont need a Dak-stanley to try and convince me otherwise.

Tampa had a cake schedule, especially being an NFC South team, playing the likes of Marcus Mariota, Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston, and PJ Walker. Every decent team they played, their defense got torched.

You stanleys are shameless
 

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Well, I saw it differently, but I’m not going to argue about it. The problem, IMO, was not much in the WR corps and even less at RB. I saw Dak dropping back and with no open WR’s held on to the ball too long, giving the rush time to get there.

The Niners have some good talent on the DL, including the NFL Defensive player of the year. If you don’t get the ball out quickly, those guys will get there on any OL. It didn’t look like bullying to me..

However, people see the game differently, so let’s just hope they meet them again this year in the playoffs and win the damn game.
perhaps you are right about 2022.
 

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If parsing it down based on opponents, let's parse it down based on years:

2016-2018

1-2 record
66 of 103 64.1% Comp % 794 Yards 5 TD's 2 INT's 264.7 Yards/game 97.25 Pass Rating

2019-2022

1-2 record
71 of 113 62.8% Comp % 765 Yards 6 TD's 3 INT's 255 Yards/game 85.4 Pass Rating


Based on numbers Dak has shown a regression in playoff performance.

Aaron Rodgers is 0-4 head to head vs Jimmy Garoppolo.

What does this say about Rodgers??
 

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So he played poorly in the 2018 playoff win over Seattle? Interesting take.
22/33
66%
226 yards
1 TD
1 INT
83.6 rating


This is good QB play? Interesting considering Rush put up similar stat lines (without the INT) and the Dak coalition swore we won because of our defense.
 
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