CFZ Dak’s Playoff Numbers: Niners vs Others

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Dak’s performances the last two seasons versus the Niners have created a narrative that Dak is a bad playoff QB. When in fact, he’s just been bad against the Niners.

Dak Playoffs vs 49ers
  • 0-2
  • 57.5% Completion
  • 230 yards/game
  • 2 TD, 3 INT
  • 66.7 Pass Rating

Dak Playoffs vs Everyone Else
  • 2-2
  • 66.9% Completion
  • 274.8 yards/game
  • 9 TD, 2 INT
  • 107.4 Pass Rating

We quite possibly make an NFCCG if we avoid them the last two years. But to be the conference champ and SB representative you have to beat the best.

The Niners have arguably the best roster in football top to bottom; certainly in the top 3. There are only going to be a few QB’s on earth who can beat those type of teams consistently. We need to have our own version of an elite team and competitive coaching, which I think we may now have.

Hopefully our offensive additions and defensive fortitude are enough to get over the hump this year. We played them better last year than the year before.

If there’s a world where we don’t play them, Dak has shown he can play more than well enough to win.
Tampa was close to the worst team to ever make the playoffs, and Green Bay had perhaps the worst defense in the NFL that year and was down 31-7 early the following week.

Context matters.
 

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He won the game. Also had a game clinching first down run in the 4th quarter.

It's funny how when Dak's stats are used to defend his play they are useless. But if the stats aren't great it's the first thing the haters reference.
Stats never matter. Doing it against true contenders when it matters, matters.
 

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I noticed that the OP conveniently left out the 14 or 15 penalties that we had in that first Niners playoff game.

I would like the OP or anybody else to show me any quarterback in NFL history who was able to overcome 14 or 15 penalties in the playoffs with a victory vs a team ranked where the 49ers were ranked that particular year.


(Here's where all the people with their anti Dak agendas, quietly leave the thread and hide. This question will not be answered by them, I'll guarantee it!!)
 

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I noticed that the OP conveniently left out the 14 or 15 penalties that we had in that first Niners playoff game.

I would like the OP or anybody else to show me any quarterback in NFL history who was able to overcome 14 or 15 penalties in the playoffs with a victory vs a team ranked where the 49ers were ranked that particular year.


(Here's where all the people with their anti Dak agendas, quietly leave the thread and hide. This question will not be answered by them, I'll guarantee it!!)
What do the penalties have to do with Dak’s horrid play? If Dak played well and we lost, this thread wouldnt have even been made.
 

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What do the penalties have to do with Dak’s horrid play? If Dak played well and we lost, this thread wouldnt have even been made.
If you watch football, you know penalties matter. Facing 2nd and 20 or 3rd and 25 isn't exactly setting up any QB for success, especially against a defense that led the NFL in fewest points allowed.

Not saying Dak faced a lot of those in the games in question, but 14 or 15 penalties of any kind is ridiculous to overcome against a team like San Fran.
 

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80’s and Mid-90’s they sure owned us in the Playoffs. As great as those 92-93 NFC Championships were, the Boys were legitimately scared of them by 95 and lucked out when Green Bay won.
Cowboys and Forty-Niners only played each other one time in the playoffs during the 1980 decade.
1981__ NFC Championship Game, at Candlestick Park: 49ers 28, Cowboys 27

1990s -three consecutive NFC Championship Games between the two NFL Titans
1992__ at Candlesitck Park: Cowboys 30, 49ers 20
1993__ at Texas Stadium: Cowboys 38, 49ers 21
1994__ at Candlestick Park: 49ers 38, Cowboys 28

Two wins, two losses for each team during the 80s thru 90s.
 

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If you watch football, you know penalties matter. Facing 2nd and 20 or 3rd and 25 isn't exactly setting up any QB for success, especially against a defense that led the NFL in fewest points allowed.

Not saying Dak faced a lot of those in the games in question, but 14 or 15 penalties of any kind is ridiculous to overcome against a team like San Fran.
Right because all those penalties were on the offense and not the defense at all.

This was the same game where Randy Gregory lost his damn mind
Yall will literally say anything:lmao:
 

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Dak’s performances the last two seasons versus the Niners have created a narrative that Dak is a bad playoff QB. When in fact, he’s just been bad against the Niners.

Dak Playoffs vs 49ers
  • 0-2
  • 57.5% Completion
  • 230 yards/game
  • 2 TD, 3 INT
  • 66.7 Pass Rating

Dak Playoffs vs Everyone Else
  • 2-2
  • 66.9% Completion
  • 274.8 yards/game
  • 9 TD, 2 INT
  • 107.4 Pass Rating

We quite possibly make an NFCCG if we avoid them the last two years. But to be the conference champ and SB representative you have to beat the best.

The Niners have arguably the best roster in football top to bottom; certainly in the top 3. There are only going to be a few QB’s on earth who can beat those type of teams consistently. We need to have our own version of an elite team and competitive coaching, which I think we may now have.

Hopefully our offensive additions and defensive fortitude are enough to get over the hump this year. We played them better last year than the year before.

If there’s a world where we don’t play them, Dak has shown he can play more than well enough to win.
Great post. I hope the Cowboys face the 9’er’s in the playoffs again.
 

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Stats never matter. Doing it against true contenders when it matters, matters.
Who are the contenders? and whats the watermark? Hey i might agree with you if you show me who blew a healthy 49's team off the field... ooh wait you cant because if the niners got blown away they wouldnt be the #1 defense....
 

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What do the penalties have to do with Dak’s horrid play? If Dak played well and we lost, this thread wouldnt have even been made.

If you remember, Dak made plays and converted 1st downs in that game that were called back, due to holding, hands to the face, illegal motion, etc.

So you're saying starting out 2nd and 22, 3rd and 15 are ideal situations for a quarterback to succeed vs a top defense??

Again.... show me one quarterback in NFL history to have won a playoff game with his team committing 14, 15 penalties vs a top 3 defense.

I'll wait.....
 

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If you remember, Dak made plays and converted 1st downs in that game that were called back, due to holding, hands to the face, illegal motion, etc.

So you're saying starting out 2nd and 22, 3rd and 15 are ideal situations for a quarterback to succeed vs a top defense??

Again.... show me one quarterback in NFL history to have won a playoff game with his team committing 14, 15 penalties vs a top 3 defense.

I'll wait.....
We arent talking about winning. We are talking about his overall play. You are in here making every excuse under the sun for Dak right now.
 

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Who are the contenders? and whats the watermark? Hey i might agree with you if you show me who blew a healthy 49's team off the field... ooh wait you cant because if the niners got blown away they wouldnt be the #1 defense....
Dallas lost and looked poor offensively doing it.

I don't care much about what they did to Tampa because all the playoff teams would have beaten that sorry lot.

Stats are cute, but they don't matter. Playing well against the real contenders when it matters. That is all.
 

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If you remember, Dak made plays and converted 1st downs in that game that were called back, due to holding, hands to the face, illegal motion, etc.

So you're saying starting out 2nd and 22, 3rd and 15 are ideal situations for a quarterback to succeed vs a top defense??

Again.... show me one quarterback in NFL history to have won a playoff game with his team committing 14, 15 penalties vs a top 3 defense.

I'll wait.....
Dak was bad. Last year and the year before against the 49ers. Period.

He has to change that, and this is year 9.
 

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We arent talking about winning. We are talking about his overall play. You are in here making every excuse under the sun for Dak right now.
Lol would stats not show his overall play? you mean we are not talking about his overall play we are talking about specific plays i pick to help my argument.. becaues overall plays kill your argument...
 

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Lol would stats not show his overall play? you mean we are not talking about his overall play we are talking about specific plays i pick to help my argument.. becaues overall plays kill your argument...
Dude what are you even talking about? His stats and overall play sucked in both games against the niners…Are you trying to argue otherwise? Lmk so i can know to ignore u going fwd
 

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Lol would stats not show his overall play? you mean we are not talking about his overall play we are talking about specific plays i pick to help my argument.. becaues overall plays kill your argument...
Stats do not show that. No.
 

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Well yes cause his worst 2 playoff games where against the 49ers the past 2 years. It's clear that would bring it down by using 19-22 games.

Dak needs to be consistent, no doubt but his game against Tampa was one of his best playoff games and that was this past season. Regardless of what people thought about Tampa it was still a playoff team with Tom Brady on the road
Theres not a QB in the history of the NFL that is going to play consistently good against the #1 defense in the NFL. Especially when your featured RB is averaging 29 yards per game and 2.6 ypc and 0 TD's in those contests.
 

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Lol would stats not show his overall play? you mean we are not talking about his overall play we are talking about specific plays i pick to help my argument.. becaues overall plays kill your argument...
All these clowns can do is cherry pick and try and make a point.

Dak has a 92.3 QBR with 15 TD's and 5 picks in 6 career playoff games.

Overall he has played well in the playoffs.

The trolls have NOTHING and they know it.
 

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Dak was bad. Last year and the year before against the 49ers. Period.

He has to change that, and this is year 9.

Dak definitely was bad last season. But he was put into a bad situation by his teammates as well the year before with 14, 15 penalties that HE didn't commit.

It's amazing how those details seem to be conveniently left out when talking about that first playoff game.

Has any quarterback in NFL history overcame 15 penalties in a playoff game vs a top 3 defense??? Im still waiting for that answer.

Usually Dak is expected to do things other quarterbacks before him couldn't do.
 

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We arent talking about winning. We are talking about his overall play. You are in here making every excuse under the sun for Dak right now.
Definitely not making excuses for anyone. Dak definitely has to step it up in a major way.

But I'm talking about that first niners playoff game.

What other quarterback in NFL history played on a team that committed 14, 15 penalties in the playoffs vs a top 3 defense and still won?

Let's toss opinions out the window and SHOW ME facts. Like what other quarterback has ever did this thing that you expected Dak to do? Has it been done before, that's a yes or no.
 
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