Dak’s TD pass

[Toruk_Makto]

In 2016 most of his yardage cane from the 11-20 yard range where he had a 61% competition percentage. His competition percentage was above 66% from 21-30 yards. This was in a down year. If you look at 2016 it much better for all zones, including 75% from 21-30 yards. So yes, Dak is effective at every depth.

My original reply had a question you glanced over when you compared him to Brady. The 2nd question I asked was how many passes was he throwing? Dak has ahd great completion percentages the problem is the coaches (rightly) don't trust him to throw often and when he does his passes are clustered 10 yards and in. That does a few things. It allows defenders to crowd around the line of scrimmage. It allows the defense to help stifle your run game. And it leads to a lot of 3rd and longs. Defense have not yet been forced to back up because of Dak. They welcome the long throws that Dak won't throw often unless he happens to see a WR running free (he misses this often) and defensive coordinators are happy to give that up those rare completions.

Of course those same coordinators are not foolish enough to test Brady. So they always have help over top and in intermediate zones. Hence Brady is happy to take those 8 or 9 yard completions over and over. He'll throw 40 passes a game. Dak...is not doing that. In fact last year he threw 20% fewer passes. So when your qb is barely throwing the ball and when he does its 10 yards and in. That's a problem. It's embarrassing looking at completion percentage alone without context. As I have wrote many times Dak was a bottom 10 starting QB in average air yards per attempt. Couple that with Dak averaging just over 7 passes a quarter...and well...that's a problem. A problem Tom Brady does not share.

 

[gimmesix]

I didn’t see a noodle arm. Obviously he can throw further than 30 yards. The pass could have been about a yard further hitting him in the chest instead of the bread basket. But a sweet play against their 1s. He threw a 60 yarder to TWill. In the air in regular season.

That was the only negative to me about the play from Dak's end, and I don't think there's anything wrong in pointing that out. If the DB had not hesitated, the throw would have still been there, but it would have needed to be out in front to have had a chance of being completed. Dak completed the throw, which is important, but I think it's foolish to believe it was a perfect throw.

Same thing with Gallup's route. He won it because the corner says the sun got in his eyes. That happens and the important thing is Gallup made the TD catch. However, there's no reason to spin it that Gallup somehow ran a great route to create that separation. (In fact, Gallup ran a much better route later in the game where he raced by the corner and had several steps on him but Rush couldn't step into the throw because of pressure up the middle.)

 

[glimmerman]

That was the only negative to me about the play from Dak's end, and I don't think there's anything wrong in pointing that out. If the DB had not hesitated, the throw would have still been there, but it would have needed to be out in front to have had a chance of being completed. Dak completed the throw, which is important, but I think it's foolish to believe it was a perfect throw.

Same thing with Gallup's route. He won it because the corner says the sun got in his eyes. That happens and the important thing is Gallup made the TD catch. However, there's no reason to spin it that Gallup somehow ran a great route to create that separation. (In fact, Gallup ran a much better route later in the game where he raced by the corner and had several steps on him but Rush couldn't step into the throw because of pressure up the middle.)

Of course there isn’t a problem with pointing it out. You saw my post. It could have been a little further and when they get more connection and chemistry it likely will be. But people take it to extreme and get all offended or offensive when you simply point it out and think your a hater. Some on here seriously don’t like him. And some think he is the best ever. No grey area. Lol. Players make mistakes and they also make great plays. I will point out both.

Look, the TD went a long way in getting some confidence. The kid was happy after that. Fired them all up and they need it. Carry it over to the regular season.

 

[gimmesix]

But people take it to extreme and get all offended or offensive when you simply point it out and think your a hater. Some on here seriously don’t like him. And some think he is the best ever. No grey area. Lol. Players make mistakes and they also make great plays. I will point out both.

I've never been one for extremes about any player. It blinds you to the truth. Either you believe (or at least espouse) that the player can never succeed or that he's a future Hall of Famer. The truth is usually much more complicated and takes more examination.

 

[glimmerman]

I've never been one for extremes about any player. It blinds you to the truth. Either you believe (or at least espouse) that the player can never succeed or that he's a future Hall of Famer. The truth is usually much more complicated and takes more examination.

No one can make that determination after 2 years. To me arrows point up for him being good after what I have seen. He is exciting to watch. Not Romo but exciting. Gonna miss that Houdini move.

 

[Dre11]

Isn’t it amazing how Dak can toss 30 yard passes with touch and accuracy when he has a receiver who can separate downfield? Say it ain’t so!!! Isn’t that something he’s supposedly unable to do? Or was I dreaming?

Wow dude, the the DB actually hesitated, otherwise he was stride for stride...
He 's not great at the deep ball, he's working on it, that's not a knock, it is what it is.

 

[Dre11]

No Dez hate at all. But did you miss the part when Gallup separated with a burst to track the ball?

No, neither did you, he separated when the DB hesitated to look back for the ball....lol

 

[Dre11]

You are a liar!!! And it’s your hypocritical *** who should be embarrassed. I played football in every stage from Pop Warner to Comment College. My IQ is great. I know what the **** I’m talking about. Apparently you do not.

That means you know? Ok.

 

[Dre11]

So how did he get past the CB after his stutter step?

Lol...and you played? There was no stutter step, Gallup wasn't running fast at the beginning of the route and was actually slowed when the Db punched, after hand fighting and the DB hesitating to look for the ball he ran past him. He also got the last push to get past him too. None of that is a knock on Dak or Gallup, but don't come in here trying to beat your chest about something you can't even see right.

 

[Dre11]

That’s one thing I don’t understand.

People saying it was a horrible play by the CB.

Gallup stutter stepped and shielded the CB with his body at the top of the route. It was actually an excellent route by Gallup who played the ball in the air very well.

He did not stutter step....lol do folks know what a stutter step is?

 

[Dre11]

The receiver turned his head to look back for the ball and lost contact with his man and didn't track the ball. You're literally making things up.

Gallup and Dak made him pay for his mistake. Let's not invent new things that didn't happen.

But he played and knows what he's talking about...lol there was never a stutter step involved....lol

 

[Dre11]

You watch it again... especially the second angle. There was no stutter step or separation. I guess you can say the only thing Gallup did was not be fazed by the horrible press. It was just awful coverage and a good throw, Gallup didn’t do anything worth noting except not drop the ball (which isn’t bad for this team lately).

But he played....lol doesn't even know what a stutter step is...lol

 

[G2]

He did not stutter step....lol do folks know what a stutter step is?

Regardless, Gallup beat his man and made the catch. They were both playing on the same field looking into the same sun. And, Gallup was hit perfectly in stride.

 

[Dre11]

Regardless, Gallup beat his man and made the catch. They were both playing on the same field looking into the same sun. And, Gallup was hit perfectly in stride.

Never said he didn't, But this dude is acting like it was more than it was.

 

[G2]

Never said he didn't, But this dude is acting like it was more than it was.

I get it. I agree some are making it a huge deal, but it goes both ways.

 

[Dre11]

Not to mention Dak looking the safety off the entire way.

Perfectly executed by Dak and Gallup.

End of the day it’s preseason so we need to see it in games that count. But people claiming it was a bad play by the CB to take credit away from Gallup or Dak is just nonsense.

I didn't see it as as just a bad play by the DB, it was a combination of 3, Dak made the throw, The CB lost it and stop, Gallup kept playing and ran through the ball.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

What?

Read!

I said nothing close to that. Seriously dude. Comprehension problems.

He likes to put words in your mouth and change the narrative as the thread moves along.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

That's not what the thread is about at all. It's about the OP not understanding what the criticisms of Dak are, distorting them, and trying to throw that play in Dak's critics faces in an effort to make them look foolish. It was an epic fail and backfired.

This.

The OP is butthurt and want's to throw it in all the faces of people that have concerns about Dak. All this over a freaking preseason TD pass. He was waiting for that moment to start a fight and he found it..

Now he want's to change the narrative to it being all about the Cowboys.

 

[HungryLion]

I didn't see it as as just a bad play by the DB, it was a combination of 3, Dak made the throw, The CB lost it and stop, Gallup kept playing and ran through the ball.

That’s the point Dre. We have people who, because of their agenda, can’t even simply give credit to Dak and Gallup for making a good play. But rather want to claim it was merely the result of a bad play by the CB.

It’s absolutelu ludicrous. And stutter step or no stutter step, Gallup got past his man, used his hands to get some seperation and shielded the defender away with his body at the top of the route.

People claiming it was purely a bad play by the CB is just straight up BS.

It’s also BS with people claiming the ball was thrown with “too low of a trajectory” or “not out far enough”
Nonsense.

 

[Blake]

This.

The OP is butthurt and want's to throw it in all the faces of people that have concerns about Dak. All this over a freaking preseason TD pass. He was waiting for that moment to start a fight and he found it..

Now he want's to change the narrative to it being all about the Cowboys.

Speculate much?

Perhaps you're just butthurt because OP's thread regarding an "insignificant" preseason throw will soon hit 20 pages.