Dak’s TD pass

[Vegas_Cowboy]

. I have also been expressing concerns about Dak, especially in his ability to throw 10-20 yards towards the sidelines. I've actually been explicit in saying that Dak can throw to the outside if it a go route downfield, but has struggle in the intermediate routes. So to me while this throw was beautiful, it is something I think Dak has already shown he can do well.

So in my mind it doesn't alleviate concerns, unless it is evidence that more speed on the outside will let Dak make this throw more often and force safeties to protect against it so that they can not just clog the middle of the field.

To me that's the thing. We have do something that keeps defenses from clogging the middle of the field. If we can do that by throwing more go routes, which is something that Dak is already effective at, then that is good enough for me.

Let's see what occurs.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled as a "Hater."

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Speculate much?

Perhaps you're just butthurt because OP's thread regarding an "insignificant" preseason throw will soon hit 20 pages.

No I don't speculate. He's already admitted in this thread to me that he started it because some people said he can't throw downfield. I don't care if it reaches 100 pages. It was his attitude of trying to start a fight with everyone that has concerns over Dak. God forbid some of us are concerned about the QB situation.

Who got next?

 

[Blake]

No I don't speculate. He's already admitted in this thread to me that he started it because some people said he can't throw downfield. I don't care if it reaches 100 pages. It was his attitude of trying to start a fight with everyone that has concerns over Dak. God forbid some of us are concerned about the QB situation.

Who got next?

That's your subjective opinion so you're pretty much alone on that one.

Nothing wrong with posting a clip to prove a point that our QB can throw down field...sheesh!

 

[JDSmith]

That’s the point Dre. We have people who, because of their agenda, can’t even simply give credit to Dak and Gallup for making a good play. But rather want to claim it was merely the result of a bad play by the CB.

It’s absolutelu ludicrous. And stutter step or no stutter step, Gallup got past his man, used his hands to get some seperation and shielded the defender away with his body at the top of the route.

People claiming it was purely a bad play by the CB is just straight up BS.

It’s also BS with people claiming the ball was thrown with “too low of a trajectory” or “not out far enough”
Nonsense.

I think some people are going to defend their agenda no matter what. I also think some of the people belittling the throw are simply doing so because this thread is so ridiculous and the OP came on like a complete ******. His drunken douchery was bound to cause some backlash and probably caused at least one or two people to look at the throw in a different light (or claim to, just to rile up the drunk).

There will always be a couple of people for whom Dak can do no right, and a couple for whom he can do no wrong. Probably best just to put them on ignore as they can't be reasoned with and generally bring any thread down. This thread didn't need much bringing though, it started out at rock bottom.

 

[Blake]

I think some people are going to defend their agenda no matter what. I also think some of the people belittling the throw are simply doing so because this thread is so ridiculous and the OP came on like a complete ******. His drunken douchery was bound to cause some backlash and probably caused at least one or two people to look at the throw in a different light (or claim to, just to rile up the drunk).

There will always be a couple of people for whom Dak can do no right, and a couple for whom he can do no wrong. Probably best just to put them on ignore as they can't be reasoned with and generally bring any thread down. This thread didn't need much bringing though, it started out at rock bottom.

Nothing drunken about OP's original post and following statements. You are literally making things up and characterizing an individual because their popular thread leaves a sour taste in your mouth.

 

[JDSmith]

Nothing drunken about OP's original post and following statements. You are literally making things up and characterizing an individual because their popular thread leaves a sour taste in your mouth.

Not remotely. I thought it was a sweet pass. I think the thread is a joke, and only designed to sow discord. If he was sober when he made it, even worse.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

It was a great throw and a great catch. Hope it's one of many for the two. The end. Can't believe all the negativity in here...well yes I can because if Dak played poorly there would be lots of threads all claiming he's a scrub.

 

[Blake]

Not remotely. I thought it was a sweet pass. I think the thread is a joke, and only designed to sow discord. If he was sober when he made it, even worse.

If it wasn't the OP, someone else would've posted about the throw followed by your same accusations. It was going to be discussed regardless because it is warranted.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

That's your subjective opinion so you're pretty much alone on that one.

Nothing wrong with posting a clip to prove a point that our QB can throw down field...sheesh!

I've already told you that he's admitted to me that he started this thread to prove a point to certain people. That's not opinion. It's a fact. And if he would've just posted a video of the TD, great. But the attitude didn't need to be involved.

He wanted negative attention and he got it.

 

[HungryLion]

I think some people are going to defend their agenda no matter what. I also think some of the people belittling the throw are simply doing so because this thread is so ridiculous and the OP came on like a complete ******. His drunken douchery was bound to cause some backlash and probably caused at least one or two people to look at the throw in a different light (or claim to, just to rile up the drunk).

There will always be a couple of people for whom Dak can do no right, and a couple for whom he can do no wrong. Probably best just to put them on ignore as they can't be reasoned with and generally bring any thread down. This thread didn't need much bringing though, it started out at rock bottom.

Fair points.

 

[G2]

If some have issues with the thread or OP, you aren't required to participate.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Best throw and catch I’ve ever seen, at any level of football. /thread

 

[Denim Chicken]

My original reply had a question you glanced over when you compared him to Brady. The 2nd question I asked was how many passes was he throwing? Dak has ahd great completion percentages the problem is the coaches (rightly) don't trust him to throw often and when he does his passes are clustered 10 yards and in. That does a few things. It allows defenders to crowd around the line of scrimmage. It allows the defense to help stifle your run game. And it leads to a lot of 3rd and longs. Defense have not yet been forced to back up because of Dak. They welcome the long throws that Dak won't throw often unless he happens to see a WR running free (he misses this often) and defensive coordinators are happy to give that up those rare completions.

Of course those same coordinators are not foolish enough to test Brady. So they always have help over top and in intermediate zones. Hence Brady is happy to take those 8 or 9 yard completions over and over. He'll throw 40 passes a game. Dak...is not doing that. In fact last year he threw 20% fewer passes. So when your qb is barely throwing the ball and when he does its 10 yards and in. That's a problem. It's embarrassing looking at completion percentage alone without context. As I have wrote many times Dak was a bottom 10 starting QB in average air yards per attempt. Couple that with Dak averaging just over 7 passes a quarter...and well...that's a problem. A problem Tom Brady does not share.

You have failed to take into account in your analysis is the different offensive schemes. While you may attribute Dak's lack of passes to inability, others would rightly look at the fact that were a run heavy team and it stands to reason that he would have far less attempts that an offence who's focused on the short to intermediate passing game like New England. Last year Dallas was third in the league in rushing percentage while New England was 23rd. Without their best RB, Dallas finished second in the leauge in rushing yards. It makes perfect sense that Dak passes less often.

Additionally, in 2016, Dak was 6th in air yards per attempt* while Tom Brady was 12th. So by your own standard he has shown that ability. I understand that Prescott had a bad second half of the season last year, but you have to consider his total body of work.

I do not what this comparison to be construed that I am saying Dak is on Brady's level--I am under no such illusion. However, the false narrative of his exaggerated limitations continues to be promoted and it has no basis in reality.


* Air yards per attempt (minimum 1500 yards) https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/customize/

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

If some have issues with the thread or OP, you aren't required to participate.

I don't have issues with the thread. Just the way he OP went looking for a fight with many people over his agenda. If you have issues because some of us have issues with that, you don't have to participate either.

 

[G2]

I don't have issues with the thread. Just the way he OP went looking for a fight with many people over his agenda. If you have issues because some of us have issues with that, you don't have to participate either.

I couldn't care less, zero issues. But like I said, if the OP got in your head, it's easy to ignore. I'm not the one complaining, people can post what they want.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Best throw and catch I’ve ever seen, at any level of football. /thread

 

[kskboys]

You have failed to take into account in your analysis is the different offensive schemes. While you may attribute Dak's lack of passes to inability, others would rightly look at the fact that were a run heavy team and it stands to reason that he would have far less attempts that an offence who's focused on the short to intermediate passing game like New England. Last year Dallas was third in the league in rushing percentage while New England was 23rd. Without their best RB, Dallas finished second in the leauge in rushing yards. It makes perfect sense that Dak passes less often.

Additionally, in 2016, Dak was 6th in air yards per attempt* while Tom Brady was 12th. So by your own standard he has shown that ability. I understand that Prescott had a bad second half of the season last year, but you have to consider his total body of work.

I do not what this comparison to be construed that I am saying Dak is on Brady's level--I am under no such illusion. However, the false narrative of his exaggerated limitations continues to be promoted and it has no basis in reality.


* Air yards per attempt (minimum 1500 yards) https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-air-yards/2016/customize/

False narrative is an accurate term as to what's going on w/ Dak.

I still think it comes from people watching only highlights of other teams. Opposing QB's always hit those long passes on the highlight reel.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

I couldn't care less, zero issues. But like I said, if the OP got in your head, it's easy to ignore. I'm not the one complaining, people can post what they want.

Then why do you care? First you say that people don't need to participate and then you say people can post what they want.

Is it just some of us that you don't want to post what they want?

And you never told me before that the OP got in my head and it was easy to ignore.

Does that mean I'm in your head? Hmmm???

 

[aria]

How dumb, 20 pages over one pass. Just as I wouldn’t claim the sky is falling if he missed that pass, I wouldn’t use it to defend an argument that he can throw the ball accurately downfield on a consistent basis. Want to use past stats from real games, great! This is one pass from a pre season game, who cares? It was a great pass and that’s the end of it, it doesn’t prove anything.

 

[408Cowboy]

I think this thread was made specifically for people like pappy