Dak college stats

[DallasDomination]

Compared Dak stats to RGIII and Cam
Did not realize how amazing rgIII was.
RGIII and Cam have superior physical attributes.

Dak seems to be superior passer compared to Cam in college.
Did anyone watch their college games?

Stats of their last year in college -
RGIII Big 12 - 6'2" 222lb 4.41sec 291-402 72.4% 4293yd 37 td 6 int 161 rush 699 yd 10td

Cam SEC - 6'5" 245lb 4.59sec 185-280 66.1% 2854yd 30 td 7 int 264 rush 1473yd 20td

Dak SEC - 6'2" 226lb 4.79sec 316-477 66.2% 3793yd 29 td 5 int 160 rush 588yd 10td

I think everyone knew at the time rg3 and Cam could be successful in the nfl. I especially thought rg3 was going to be a beast. I like many would of had him over Luck and it wasn't even close. Look bad in retrospect but hey.. it's college

 

[Doomsday101]

He is more liable to hold the ball too long and get sacked than take off too early.

Could be, I think under pressure he will tend to resort to what he knows which is running. However my hope is he will develop and show the ability to make the reads and deliver the ball on time. If he continuously relies on running then again I think his career will be short lived.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think everyone knew at the time rg3 and Cam could be successful in the nfl. I especially thought rg3 was going to be a beast. I like many would of had him over Luck and it wasn't even close. Look bad in retrospect but hey.. it's college

Not to blow my own horn but I got it right. I felt RGIII would have success early on because of his athletic ability but felt Luck would be the better longterm. I think for rookies who can run they can have the early success but the key is still the ability to work from a pocket and not challenge these NFL defense as a runner. All protection goes out the window when QB's start acting like RB. The ability to stand in the pocket and make the throws is critical at this level.

I also have to say I was off on Cam. I think what makes Cam different is he is bigger than a lot of the defensive players who are trying to tackle him and faster but even Cam this past season looked more comfortable when forced to remain in the pocket.

 

[mahoneybill]

I'm on record as saying that I really like Dak and think he was good value at the end of the 4th. He has that something that people follow and the team always, always played hard for him. That doesn't mean he will succeed at the NFL level, but IMO it gives him a shot.

He is durable and is built very solid. In the OP it lists Griffin's size as 6-2, 222 and Dak's size as 6-2, 226. They are built completely different though. Prescott is much thicker and stronger.

I did watch Dak in college some (live in Mississippi). The main thing that I noticed was his penchant for winning and how he lifted the entire team around him. As I've said many times... MS State won some games that they had no business winning and IMO it was because of Dak.

What they measure at the combine and pro days isn't what Prescott excels at. Where he excels was more on display at the Senior Bowl (MVP).

Just my two cents.

Thanks for that local perspective. Better than what we get from beat writers

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm on record as saying that I really like Dak and think he was good value at the end of the 4th. He has that something that people follow and the team always, always played hard for him. That doesn't mean he will succeed at the NFL level, but IMO it gives him a shot.

 

[waldoputty]

I'm on record as saying that I really like Dak and think he was good value at the end of the 4th. He has that something that people follow and the team always, always played hard for him. That doesn't mean he will succeed at the NFL level, but IMO it gives him a shot.

He is durable and is built very solid. In the OP it lists Griffin's size as 6-2, 222 and Dak's size as 6-2, 226. They are built completely different though. Prescott is much thicker and stronger.

I did watch Dak in college some (live in Mississippi). The main thing that I noticed was his penchant for winning and how he lifted the entire team around him. As I've said many times... MS State won some games that they had no business winning and IMO it was because of Dak.

What they measure at the combine and pro days isn't what Prescott excels at. Where he excels was more on display at the Senior Bowl (MVP).

Just my two cents.

Here is a further comp with another college QB - Russell Wilson.
Had no idea how dominant Wilson was in his senior year - wow.
Dak's 3rd year performance (senior) is similar to Wilson's 3rd year performance (junior) as college starter:

Wilson 3rd yr ACC - 5'11" 215lb 4.5sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NC_State_Wolfpack_football_team 308 -527 58.4% 3563yd 28td 14int 143 rush 435yd 9td
Wilson 4th yr Big Ten - 5'11" 215lb 4.5sec 225 -309 72.8% 3175yd 33td 4int 79 rush 338yd 6 td

RGIII Big 12 - 6'2" 222lb 4.41sec 291-402 72.4% 4293yd 37 td 6 int 161 rush 699 yd 10td

Cam SEC - 6'5" 245lb 4.59sec 185-280 66.1% 2854yd 30 td 7 int 264 rush 1473yd 20td

Dak SEC - 6'2" 226lb 4.79sec 316-477 66.2% 3793yd 29 td 5 int 160 rush 588yd 10td

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

I'm on record as saying that I really like Dak and think he was good value at the end of the 4th. He has that something that people follow and the team always, always played hard for him. That doesn't mean he will succeed at the NFL level, but IMO it gives him a shot.

He is durable and is built very solid. In the OP it lists Griffin's size as 6-2, 222 and Dak's size as 6-2, 226. They are built completely different though. Prescott is much thicker and stronger.

I did watch Dak in college some (live in Mississippi). The main thing that I noticed was his penchant for winning and how he lifted the entire team around him. As I've said many times... MS State won some games that they had no business winning and IMO it was because of Dak.

What they measure at the combine and pro days isn't what Prescott excels at. Where he excels was more on display at the Senior Bowl (MVP).

Just my two cents.

Good thoughts **. If I didn't know you were talking about Dak and just referred to a Cowboy QB college career, I would assure myself that you were talking about Romo.

Off topic, I just read somewhere that Moore as the record for career wins in college at 50. Fifty wins is fifty wins. WOW!

 

[conner01]

What I want to see from Dak is the ability to stand in the pocket and make the throws. With running QB defense will attempt to contain the QB in the pocket not allowing him to get outside so it becomes important that Dak shows he can hurt you from the pocket as well. If he turns out to be nothing more than a running QB his career will be short lived, I have to say I am intrigued by this pick.

What I really want to see is a big improvement from this camp till the next. To me that's the real key. He hopefully never gets on the field this year after pre season and that gives him a year to learn and grow as a player.

 

[Doomsday101]

What I really want to see is a big improvement from this camp till the next. To me that's the real key. He hopefully never gets on the field this year after pre season and that gives him a year to learn and grow as a player.

I don't disagree but ultimately what I want to see from Dak is the ability to stand in there and deliver strikes when bodies are flying around you yet you keep the poise to stand in the pocket and make plays down the field. I love the fact he has mobility it is a great asset, to be able to buy time with your feet or to be able to pick up the 1st down by running for it but I think for any NFL QB it is critical that you can set up in the pocket and allow the rout to develop and put the ball on the money. I don't expect that day 1 from Dak but hopefully that is what he will be able to do.

 

[AsthmaField]

Good thoughts **. If I didn't know you were talking about Dak and just referred to a Cowboy QB college career, I would assure myself that you were talking about Romo.

Off topic, I just read somewhere that Moore as the record for career wins in college at 50. Fifty wins is fifty wins. WOW!

Yeah, Romo has that same kind of moxie and gives the same kind of spark to the team. I realize that doesn't mean Dak is going to have a successful NFL career and I'm not comparing his pro prospects to Tony... but they are similar in that respect

Moore gave a spark to the Dallas offense last year that neither Weeden nor Cassell were able to provide. Had Moore started when Romo first got hurt, the team would have won some more games, IMO. That's ok though, Dallas wouldn't have ended up with Elliott if they had.

 

[Bullflop]

I'm pulling for Dak to refine his game and see things downfield better and quicker than in the past.

Here's hoping Wade Wilson and Garrett manage to groom a QB far better than they have thus far.

 

[casmith07]

Compared Dak stats to RGIII and Cam
Did not realize how amazing rgIII was.
RGIII and Cam have superior physical attributes.

Dak seems to be superior passer compared to Cam in college.
Did anyone watch their college games?

Stats of their last year in college -
RGIII Big 12 - 6'2" 222lb 4.41sec 291-402 72.4% 4293yd 37 td 6 int 161 rush 699 yd 10td

Cam SEC - 6'5" 245lb 4.59sec 185-280 66.1% 2854yd 30 td 7 int 264 rush 1473yd 20td

Dak SEC - 6'2" 226lb 4.79sec 316-477 66.2% 3793yd 29 td 5 int 160 rush 588yd 10td

I watched a lot of Dak. He took a lot of hits and sacks because he's pass-first and his offensive line sucked balls.

Why are we only comparing black QBs, though?

 

[waldoputty]

I watched a lot of Dak. He took a lot of hits and sacks because he's pass-first and his offensive line sucked balls.

Why are we only comparing black QBs, though?

lol, dual threat qbs.
unless you want to talk tebow

 

[AbeBeta]

Not to blow my own horn but I got it right. I felt RGIII would have success early on because of his athletic ability but felt Luck would be the better longterm. I think for rookies who can run they can have the early success but the key is still the ability to work from a pocket and not challenge these NFL defense as a runner. All protection goes out the window when QB's start acting like RB. The ability to stand in the pocket and make the throws is critical at this level.

I also have to say I was off on Cam. I think what makes Cam different is he is bigger than a lot of the defensive players who are trying to tackle him and faster but even Cam this past season looked more comfortable when forced to remain in the pocket.

Funny how people say athletic ability in reference to RGIII but not Luck. Luck run a 4.67 and is close to Cam's size. Luck has over 1000 yards rushing already. Those aren't Newton or RG3 numbers but here's a guy who is an outstanding athlete in a bit of a John Always mold

 

[LocimusPrime]

Compared Dak stats to RGIII and Cam
Did not realize how amazing rgIII was.
RGIII and Cam have superior physical attributes.

Dak seems to be superior passer compared to Cam in college.
Did anyone watch their college games?

Stats of their last year in college -
RGIII Big 12 - 6'2" 222lb 4.41sec 291-402 72.4% 4293yd 37 td 6 int 161 rush 699 yd 10td

Cam SEC - 6'5" 245lb 4.59sec 185-280 66.1% 2854yd 30 td 7 int 264 rush 1473yd 20td

Dak SEC - 6'2" 226lb 4.79sec 316-477 66.2% 3793yd 29 td 5 int 160 rush 588yd 10td

That's why college stats can be deceiving. Depending on what conference you are in and who you play ( like Northern Mississippi State Valley or Kansas Polytech), your stats can look great

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

You have to roll the dice on QBs when you have an aging Veteran so having no problem with what basically amounts to a 5th round selection in a QB depth friendly Draft.

That said thinking Showers could be better than Prescott and would rather cut the Draft pick though doubting it will happen, Moore is the least of these physically and possible in the long run. Splitting hairs on the next Romo to show up in Dallas is against the odds but better than taking a flier too early in the 1st for a Bust like Tebow or being blindsided with a top 10 like Jamarcus Russell.

Meanwhile we search the scrap heap for a diamond until the year we don't have Tony, then we bite the bullet but there is a chance that a QB will show up, hopefully that wasn't Paxton 'the best QB in 2016' Lynch which is my fear.

With this in mind always remember there are hyped QBs in every single Draft that climb Draft Boards like spider monkeys.

 

[casmith07]

lol, dual threat qbs.
unless you want to talk tebow

Dak >>>>>>>>>>>> Tebow. Tim Tebow is not a quarterback lol.

 

[waldoputty]

Dak >>>>>>>>>>>> Tebow. Tim Tebow is not a quarterback lol.

someone mentioned Luck, but i dont see him in as a real dual threat qb.
there is also kapernick, but i dont know if he is white or black.
he is better than tebow, but you need more accuracy.

dual threat qbs are popular are so popular in college
i think may be we join them instead of trying to fight the trend.
i think we can be a bit more flexible with qbs.
this is especially true with 7 potential pro bowlers in our ol, dez, witten and zeke (not counting romo) - though witten may retire soon enough.
though you need to develop at least 2 that can pass adequately.
they take a lot more hits than traditional qbs imo.

 

[jnday]

I'm on record as saying that I really like Dak and think he was good value at the end of the 4th. He has that something that people follow and the team always, always played hard for him. That doesn't mean he will succeed at the NFL level, but IMO it gives him a shot.

He is durable and is built very solid. In the OP it lists Griffin's size as 6-2, 222 and Dak's size as 6-2, 226. They are built completely different though. Prescott is much thicker and stronger.

I did watch Dak in college some (live in Mississippi). The main thing that I noticed was his penchant for winning and how he lifted the entire team around him. As I've said many times... MS State won some games that they had no business winning and IMO it was because of Dak.

What they measure at the combine and pro days isn't what Prescott excels at. Where he excels was more on display at the Senior Bowl (MVP).

Just my two cents.

I live in Mississippi as well and have watched tons of his games. Great young man, no doubt about it, and a good college QB. It is very doubtful that his skills ever makes him even a bus driver in the pros. I agree with the comparisons to Tebow, except Tebow was a better college QB. I pulled for Dak every college game, but I never wanted him in Dallas even if it was as a UDFA.

 

[erod]

The problem is, college offenses today are a joke, and QBs have to start from scratch in the NFL.