Dak deal: Dummy years

darthseinfeld · Mar 9, 2021

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/.amp...s-and-did-jerry-win?__twitter_impression=true

silvernblu · Mar 9, 2021

darthseinfeld said:
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/.amp...s-and-did-jerry-win?__twitter_impression=true

Explain. Won’t that all accelerate into the last year if he doesn’t re-sign?

America's Cowboy · Mar 9, 2021

Cool. Dak + them "dummy years" for the Cowboys = lots of wins. (Keeping fingers crossed Dak stays healthy and has no setbacks on his injured leg)

darthseinfeld · Mar 9, 2021

silvernblu said:
Explain. Won’t that all accelerate into the last year if he doesn’t re-sign?

The years are voidable. The deal is three years. The other two are voidable years added to spread money. No matter if he resigns or doesnt, they will be voided

Colombiacowboy · Mar 9, 2021

darthseinfeld said:
The years are voidable. The deal is three years. The other two are voidable years added to spread money. No matter if he resigns or doesnt, they will be voided[/Q
Yep. If he resigns after the four years, they can continue to kick the can down the road. If he is gone, it becomes dead money the Cowboys pay for two years.

John813 · Mar 9, 2021

silvernblu said:
Explain. Won’t that all accelerate into the last year if he doesn’t re-sign?

IIRC if the team can come to an agreement before his 4th year is over, then there won't be a dead cap in the 5th year, as he will be extended and the deal could never "void".

If the team can't come to an agreement, the contract voids, and if they re-sign him it's his new deal + any accelerated dead cap from his deal+ any future restructure.

Otherwords, it's up to Dallas to either re-sign him early or start a rebuild in 4 years with some dead cap from Daks deal.

To me, it's obvious they will restructure his deal next year, so, I expect the team to re-sign him early unless everything goes south in 3-4 years

Aven8 · Mar 9, 2021

So basically we have a three year window to get a Lombardi.

StuckMojo · Mar 9, 2021

Not sure why Cowboys’ fans are happy that we just over paid another player and gave him most guaranteed money in history.

atlantacowboy · Mar 9, 2021

StuckMojo said:
Not sure why Cowboys’ fans are happy that we just over paid another player and gave him most guaranteed money in history.

Oh, that's b/c he's the best QB in the NFC East and has registered a single playoff (wildcard) win in 5 seasons. Isn't it obvious that he was due for a record breaking contract???

J-man · Mar 9, 2021

StuckMojo said:
Not sure why Cowboys’ fans are happy that we just over paid another player and gave him most guaranteed money in history.

Because we gambled on a guy we know is capable of winning instead of gambling on an unknown guy out of the draft.
You can be and should be mad at the amount of $ he got, I'm definitely not thrilled about it either. But the issue isn't how much Dak got, it's that QB's are getting so much. Regardless of who it is, the market dictates what their value is.
Dak is now the #2 highest paid QB behind St Patty, but the next good QB to sign will leap from him and the next will jump him and so and so on.
Don't be mad at Dak, be mad at the system

atlantacowboy · Mar 9, 2021

Aven8 said:
So basically we have a three year window to get a Lombardi.

Yep, and very little cap space to get there. J-Ville with Trevor Lawrence on a rookie deal and 90M in cap space in a deep free agent market has a much better chance than we do over the next 3 years.

J-man · Mar 9, 2021

I must be a dummy because I don't anything out of that video.

atlantacowboy · Mar 9, 2021

J-man said:
Because we gambled on a guy we know is capable of winning instead of gambling on an unknown guy out of the draft.
You can be and should be mad at the amount of $ he got, I'm definitely not thrilled about it either. But the issue isn't how much Dak got, it's that QB's are getting so much. Regardless of who it is, the market dictates what their value is.
Dak is now the #2 highest paid QB behind St Patty, but the next good QB to sign will leap from him and the next will jump him and so and so on.
Don't be mad at Dak, be mad at the system

How do you figure he is "capable of winning"? He's got ONE playoff win over 4 healthy years in spite of having one of the top 2 or 3 supporting casts in the NFL, and he plays in the worst division in the NFL. What has he won?

J-man · Mar 9, 2021

atlantacowboy said:
Yep, and very little cap space to get there. J-Ville with Trevor Lawrence on a rookie deal and 90M in cap space in a deep free agent market has a much better chance than we do over the next 3 years.

This seems like the new pattern to be successful in NFL. Take a rookie QB anytime you're near the top of the draft so you don't have to pay him a real QB salary and hope he's good enough to win with a stacked team around him. If not, start over again in a couple years.
Sad

Sandyf · Mar 9, 2021

StuckMojo said:
Not sure why Cowboys’ fans are happy that we just over paid another player and gave him most guaranteed money in history.

Wouldn't disagree about overpay when it comes to any player but Dak at $40 million avg per year just sets the market for Josh Allen, Lamar Jackdon, Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray where at least two of them will get over $40 million avg per year. And when Herbert comes due in 2 years in Los Angeles with the Chargers, he probably will get north of $45 million a year avg.

visionary · Mar 9, 2021

StuckMojo said:
Not sure why Cowboys’ fans are happy that we just over paid another player and gave him most guaranteed money in history.

they’re not Cowboys fans, they’re Dak groupies

atlantacowboy · Mar 9, 2021

Sandyf said:
Wouldn't disagree about overpay when it comes to any player but Dak at $40 million avg per year just sets the market for Josh Allen, Lamar Jackdon, Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray where at least two of them will get over $40 million avg per year. And when Herbert comes due in 2 years in Los Angeles with the Chargers, he probably will get north of $45 million a year avg.

Josh Allen just had a better year than any of Daks and lead his team to a conference title game. Lamar, Baker, and Kyler are going to have to make deep playoff runs to get anything close to Dak... Kyler is the most iffy of all of them.

atlantacowboy · Mar 9, 2021

J-man said:
This seems like the new pattern to be successful in NFL. Take a rookie QB anytime you're near the top of the draft so you don't have to pay him a real QB salary and hope he's good enough to win with a stacked team around him. If not, start over again in a couple years.
Sad

Thats what you have to do unless you have a truly transcendent QB like Mahomes or Brady. Its about cap dollars and I can't believe the NFLPA hasn't addressed QB salaries. This is not a free market. There is a cap and QB salaries should be capped as a % of the teams salary cap. Then you can spread the wealth a little bit. The league is very top heavy with the top 10% earning most of the money.

America's Cowboy · Mar 9, 2021

visionary said:
they’re not Cowboys fans, they’re Dak groupies

And you're a crybaby. Waaaah. lol

acr731 · Mar 9, 2021

America's Cowboy said:
And you're a crybaby. Waaaah. lol

Ahhhhhh.... the name calling is starting early today.

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