Dak getting on Chaz Green

[waving monkey]

"throws" may have been a better word when followed by "look crisp"

 

[aria]

Our OL is much better at run blocking then they are pass blocking.

Yup but they’re still above average overall and one of the top lines in the league. Not to mention, according to a lot of people here, without the run game and Zeke than Dak isn’t nearly as good so it goes hand in hand.

 

[aria]

Why would that be a concern? Romo went 8 and 8 until we upgraded the o line. The eagles had a line that performed better than ours did and rode it to a superbowl. Very few qbs will do well without a great o line... and last year, what o line luxury did we have? One that lets the qb get sacked by a journeyman 6 times in one game?

My god, can people stop bringing up the ONE Atlanta game? Does that explain the other 7 games we lost?

It’s a concern because I have doubts we’ll be able to keep drafting and paying for a top 5 O line for the rest of Daks career. It’s not an immediate concern but say he does very well this year (which I assume he will) then we sign him to a big contract and 3-5 years down the road the O line isn’t top 5 and is middle of the road, will he flop like did last season when ONE “journeryman” O lineman fills in? Are we going to be able to keep 3-4 Pro Bowlers and great depth on the O line?

Thankfully we got Connor so that’s a start.

 

[aria]

The Dallas OL was not a luxury with Green manning the LT spot. Any QB would fail if he didn't even have enough time to drop back.

Give me a break, 3-4 of the best linemen in the league and everyone continues to blame Dak’s woes on one guy. Yeah, Green sucks but what’s gonna happen 3-4 years down the road if we don’t have an O lone when Dak has all day to throw?

Funny how many people say Manning is going down hill when he has had one of the worst O lines in football for the past 5-6 years and one of the worst, if not the worst, LT in the game protecting his blind side yet the only reason Dak failed was because of one guy. Dak wouldn’t even have been a starter half way though his rookie season with some of these O lines.

For the record, I’m not bashing Dak. I like Dak and think he had potential but after last season I’m also concerned that the O line is covering up a lot of his weaknesses and if we sign him to a huge contract to be our franchise QB and god forbid we have an average O line, will the same Dak we saw half way through last season show up?

 

[InTheZone]

The only time Dak has throwing issues is when the line has blocking issues.

And look at that, Dak is only ever at fault because of someone else. Typical to hear this today.

Here's a bit of some football knowledge. Chaz Green wasn't the only reason Dak got sacked a million times against ATL. Go rewatch those sacks and pay attention to the paths by the defensive end and Dak. And playcalling played its part as well.

 

[aria]

It’s a fair concern. Dak does need to play better during the games there is consistent pressure because his play falls of a cliff when there is A LOT of pressure.

However, all the games where there isn’t pressure constantly in Dak’s face, he has played well to very well or even excellent.

For example, Dak played very poorly the second half of last season. But the O Line was also really bad the second half of last year also.

THANK YOU! That’s all I’m saying.

And before someone says “any qb would fail miserably like Dak did if they had that kind of pressure” is where I disagree. Dak had some weaknesses exposed that better QB’s wouldn’t have had under pressure but hopefully that can be corrected. I could also easily flip that argument and say “any qb would have the same success, if not better, if they had the same O line and RB Dak has”.

 

[SoupcanSam]

"being in the right place running crisp routes"......

You had me at that line Dak.

No more WRs that think the QB should bend to their needs. No more route gurus needed....

Thank God...

Let's go!!!

Do you know how many fans blamed Dak instead of holding dez accountable for his crappy techniques!? Dez gave dak ****** options more than not but they say it was more of daks accuracy.

Dak wasn't perfect but dez also proved he couldn't go up and get the ball, and drop it, even when it was accurate and on time.

 

[aria]

So everything around him has to be perfect for him to perform? Awesome...

And that is my concern...

Again, not bashing Dak but so far that is what we’ve seen IMO.

 

[Future]

The only time Dak has throwing issues is when the line has blocking issues.

I mean, welcome to the NFL. If you can't throw under duress, you can't be an NFL QB.

 

[SoupcanSam]

So everything around him has to be perfect for him to perform? Awesome...

In a way that's how it had to be for romo. Every time the cowboys lost a star at a position it was down hill from there.

But I dont blame romo or Dak for that, I blame the coaches. Them being unable to adjust goes back years.

 

[SoupcanSam]

THANK YOU! That’s all I’m saying.

And before someone says “any qb would fail miserably like Dak did if they had that kind of pressure” is where I disagree. Dak had some weaknesses exposed that better QB’s wouldn’t have had under pressure but hopefully that can be corrected. I could also easily flip that argument and say “any qb would have the same success, if not better, if they had the same O line and RB Dak has”.

I'm assuming that "atleast" one of the flaws you are referring to are pre-snap adjustments. In that case also dak is just doing what he is told. The coaches at times are not giving dak options.

The staff needs to have a B and C plan when A goes down hill. How can dak take in more knowledge if the coaches dont even know what to do or tell him.

If I'm told to go out and snap the ball then I snap the ball. But if i have some genius in my ear like "BB" telling me to "look out for this incase that happens"...then that makes a big difference.

Dak is on a leash because the coaches are idiots. Plain and simple.

 

[Teague31]

The whole Green thing really is the incompetence of this staff in a nutshell. Everyone universally agrees that trying to turn him into a guard was a HUGE mistake. A year later and who is playing RG? Same guy. Just ridiculous

 

[kskboys]

The whole Green thing really is the incompetence of this staff in a nutshell. Everyone universally agrees that trying to turn him into a guard was a HUGE mistake. A year later and who is playing RG? Same guy. Just ridiculous

More like, everyone universally agrees that he was grossly overdrafted.

Look, college OT's are switched to OG all the time. Was it a mistake w/ Martin? Where is Connor going to play?

 

[Undefeated]

I mean, welcome to the NFL. If you can't throw under duress, you can't be an NFL QB.

The numbers show he can make plays under pressure if for the majority of the plays during the game he's kept clean, but if he's pressured for most of the game he does bad even when kept clean. I don't doubt that he'll be a lot better mentally this year.

 

[HungryLion]

I think what a lot of us are hoping to see is Dak being able to more plays while under pressure. The first step is being able to stay composed and not panic and hopefully time and experience can bring that. It would help to see young Dak resort to quick timing throws when the opponent has a high pressure defense. This is also up to the coaches. I want to see them spend more time game planning for the opponent!

I agree with that sentiment. It’s shown that Dak can make plays when under pressure. He does well against the blitz. However, when he really struggles is with consistent pressure all game long. All QB’s struggle with that. But Dak’s play fell too far down under those conditions. So he needs to improve that.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The fact that Chaz Green is still on the team is a dereliction of duty. A fat guy off the street, ANY street would be an upgrade.....ridiculous. Sometimes you think the org is doing good things, making positive changes and then you see a guy like "non-football" playing Chaz still on the team taking a roster spot. I don't get it.

I think this is Greens last shot at making the team. If he's worth a final 53 roster spot, he'll have to improve A LOT.

Don't think he can myself, but that's what OTAs and camp and pre-season is for...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

HAS to be someone else they could look at instead....

Fleming, Campos, Johnson and Jones are all tackles. It's early, let's see who comes to the forefront...

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Give me a break, 3-4 of the best linemen in the league and everyone continues to blame Dak’s woes on one guy. Yeah, Green sucks but what’s gonna happen 3-4 years down the road if we don’t have an O lone when Dak has all day to throw?

Funny how many people say Manning is going down hill when he has had one of the worst O lines in football for the past 5-6 years and one of the worst, if not the worst, LT in the game protecting his blind side yet the only reason Dak failed was because of one guy. Dak wouldn’t even have been a starter half way though his rookie season with some of these O lines.

For the record, I’m not bashing Dak. I like Dak and think he had potential but after last season I’m also concerned that the O line is covering up a lot of his weaknesses and if we sign him to a huge contract to be our franchise QB and god forbid we have an average O line, will the same Dak we saw half way through last season show up?

Don't waste your time with the Dak-bots they reside in there own grid-iron universe.First and foremost its Dak then the Cowboys.
They don't care how many embarrassing losses we have as long as Dak is under center being his inept self.
Heck were running a college offense now cause noodle Dak can't pass over 10 yards but hey as far as the Dak-bots are concerned thats just fine.
Get ready for a zillion more excuses this coming season when Dak isn't moving the offense and couldn't pass for over 200 yards if his life depended on it.
America's team our team will reach new lows on offense with Noodle Dak at the helm....we got a taste last season and it will continue as Dak STINKS!

 

[kevm3]

Give me a break, 3-4 of the best linemen in the league and everyone continues to blame Dak’s woes on one guy. Yeah, Green sucks but what’s gonna happen 3-4 years down the road if we don’t have an O lone when Dak has all day to throw?

Funny how many people say Manning is going down hill when he has had one of the worst O lines in football for the past 5-6 years and one of the worst, if not the worst, LT in the game protecting his blind side yet the only reason Dak failed was because of one guy. Dak wouldn’t even have been a starter half way though his rookie season with some of these O lines.

For the record, I’m not bashing Dak. I like Dak and think he had potential but after last season I’m also concerned that the O line is covering up a lot of his weaknesses and if we sign him to a huge contract to be our franchise QB and god forbid we have an average O line, will the same Dak we saw half way through last season show up?

What did we do without an o line here period? Romo could have won a superbowl, but without an O line and a coaching staff that doesn't adjust for circumstances, we get 8 and 8 over and over again, and that's about what we can expect from Dak and just about any other qb here with the exception of Aaron Rodgers. What did Tom Brady do without an amazing O line?

 

[stiletto]

I mean, welcome to the NFL. If you can't throw under duress, you can't be an NFL QB.

There's duress and then there's JAILBREAK....Jailbreak was the common theme when Tyron Smith was out. There IS a difference.