Dak has been bad but the Oline has been much worse. by a lot

BigD_95

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The oline sucks. Even Martin is having a terrible year.

Cooper Beebee? Thought he was supposed to be a plug and play 3rd rounder. Nope he's been average at best.

Steele? The weakest link by far.

The oline sucks big time.

completely disagree. Dak is worse than the Oline. Half the sacks are him holding the ball to long while open players are begging him to throw it.
 

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Tyler actually was in on the missed assigments yesterday, again i dont think its the talent as much as they are not mentally prepared...Steele is talent, as in he lost it all some how.
Yep I agree. That’s why I phrased it like that. Tyler Guyton is just too raw, Beebe is solid but also playing a new position, Martin is old, and Steele is probably just not the guy he once was post injury. OL philosophy and coaching doesn’t help either. Typing all this out makes me realize how bad the situation is and that’s just one position group lol
 

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yeah just ignore the ones who can only see one player on the field..which also means they dont ever see our great defense play...
It's wild. When the offense was pumping 30 points per game, they said it was because of the defense. The defense currently allows 30 points per game and they're saying in the QB :laugh:
 

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Oline starting going downhill last season when Solari took over. His OLines have been mediocre at best almost his whole career. Just another washed up coach added to other coaches who can’t adapt to todays game
 

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Yeah it hurts when you burn your current Oline coach like Callahan. Might have been like 10 yrs ago, but haven't seen a better Oline coach since him.
 

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Yeah it’s like he has no idea how to handle pressure they keep bringing up his speed I honestly don’t think it’s physical limitations he just doesn’t know what to do it seems.
He’s playing qb how I played qb, just kind of nervous and staring at the rush.

Hsi throws aren’t accurate even our plays that have potential to be great are only ok


We have a west coast offense but we don’t let receivers catch anything clean in space
 

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He’s playing qb how I played qb, just kind of nervous and staring at the rush.

Hsi throws aren’t accurate even our plays that have potential to be great are only ok


We have a west coast offense but we don’t let receivers catch anything clean in space
No confidence in what’s being ran. Running a west coast offense in 2024 doesn’t even sound smart based on how these defenses are playing. How much yac do you get running hitch routes?
 

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dak has been bad.
oline has been bad
dline has been bad
WR have been pretty bad
secondary has been pretty bad

coaching has been bad.

don't know why most in here feel like it has to be isolated to one thing. learn to problem solve.
I think you should propose a new rule. Before creating a specific topic....you must first dissect every other issue first.

Should be fine and the definition of precise clarity leading to real problem solving.
 

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welcome to how QB position works in the NFL.

No one was forced to do the extension before the season. They could have used the wait and see approach-then do the big extension if they still felt good about it. They did it out of fear of the unknown and past production.
 

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Dak has his money, getting a new mansion built, and is just costing. He has checked out, doesn't care.
Just from his comments he has made all off season and during the season.

Remember when Tony Romo made comments ..... just as good as a punt ... if that is the worst thing that ever happens to me, I lived a good life (after a game ending pick).

Dak is at that level with some of the things he has been saying.
Other than the related last 4 years. of .... I will get better, that won't happen again (after every pick).
I never had a problem with what Tony said.
Because he was absolutely right
and anyone claiming he ever mailed it in forgets him playing with broken ribs and a collapsed lung
or with a broken collarbone and they had to hide his helmet to keep him from going back in
 

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The oline sucks. Even Martin is having a terrible year.

Cooper Beebee? Thought he was supposed to be a plug and play 3rd rounder. Nope he's been average at best.

Steele? The weakest link by far.

The oline sucks big time.
and Dak is making pretty much what ALL OF THEM COMBINED ARE
 

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The bolded is certainly true, but there's more than enough "solid" lines in the NFL.

Ours is downright TERRIBLE. Zack Martin is now below average, Guyton and Steele are absolute turnstiles. This is a bottom-5 unit.
note that I said solid across the board. every one I have watched has a weak link or two. maybe not as bad as ours but they are not stonewalling at every position which leads to the QB having to manuever and work around the pressure.
 

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Dak doesn’t get a pass. Dak sucks. His contract is epically bad.

Martin should not have been extended. I said it at the time and got shouted down over it. He’s been bad for a while.

The worst part is that instead of just benching him and giving someone else a shot (to see if we have anything in a backup player) we will ride out the year with him every game like he is prime Larry Allen.
 

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NO he has NOT.,..

Don’t understand why The Jones allowed Dak to put in a no trade clause in his contracts! Not good Business we are stuck with him!
You ALL NEED TO stop it all the dak Prescott's playing bad !!!!!


he's not playing up to his contract ,he's not what we thought he was, it's all nonsense ,it's all absolute garbage, He is NOT THE ISSUE makes my 10th on top 10 issues maybe but COME ON!!!


the offensive line is the biggest issue we have, then we have the offensive scheme, both from the offensive line coach, the offensive coordinator, the play calling, the defense ,everything !!!!


where's all the help???!!! Prescott was supposed to get this year????!!!​
that other all in teams did that teams up to this point are still getting guys to help their quarterbacks before the trade deadline everybody here said it was a historically bad offseason there wasn't enough talent added for the talent we lost and then we have to add in all the injuries this has been a bad year all around and anybody acting like the quarterback is any part of this without the context??? is plain BULL!!!​
NO QB can run an offense without a consistent offensive line. that can run the damn football on a consistent basis .stop getting penalties .stop releasing guys from both the outside tackles. Martin's aging before our eyes, we got huge problems and quarterbacks not one!!!​
it's not a bad contract because ,many of the contracts for the top ten highest paid quarterbacks in the league are all in a similar spot and the only one performing up to it for the most part is Patrick mahomes and maybe Josh Allen now but over a long period of time this is what you get you either gonna get some below average quarterbacks like Daniel Jones making 42,000,000 Prescott's far better than he is and somehow you keep pointing out Prescott even the post that says the opposite line is bad saying Prescott's bad , HECK no Prescott's not bad..​

He's playing average because he's got nothing around him in front of him or on the other side of the dang football !!!!

you've got guys look like it's a comedy show running into each other wide open touchdowns being given up on the other side, and people are like pointing out how we didn't score enough on offense,
so the defense shouldn't be blamed??!!

yeah that was like during the game yesterday, I was going to wait a few days to post but I'm sick of hearing this Prescott's contract!!!!!!!

we just need to fix everything else you can't have it both ways you can't call the front office conservative that they don't do anything in the offseason to better the team and they expect the talent at the skill position that they paid to overcome all the other holes and deficiencies on this team you don't even know what football is you guys are a bunch of casuals Prescott did the only could yesterday including run even though you said that Jerry Jones controls what people do on the field no he doesn't not even at all and if you need any more proof that Prescott decided to run all day and he was getting sandwich beat up he did everything he could he threw no interceptions had no fumbles and yet here we are blaming him again.. huh odd no0 matter what hes blamed!!! he was trying to make chicken salad with chicken you know what!!!!

You all might want to watch football from the inside out!!!!!

starts in the trenches,

then you need to add in some skill players but most of all you need execution from the rest of the team,

you can't just expect the quarterback because he's making so much money to carry the damn football team with this really bad that offensive line.....

I don't even know what you're looking at it is horrible this is 2020 all over again if you haven't noticed that's the year he got hurt is he only losing season that seems had since he has been the quarterback and he wasn't the quarterback that year ie 2020,

he's been part of no losing seasons where he plays a majority of the games where he starts and finishes the year even if he missed some games in between he's never been part of a losing season but 2020 he got hurt why because the offensive line, nobody was producing it was a terrible year, and we're having another terrible year, and we're blaming the quarterback,


our quarterback just last year second in MVP voting second team all pro he also a couple years back right after he got paid his other contract in 2021 at 37 touchdowns it only 10 interceptions you're trying to tell me that he's regressed and he sucks now ?? what ??!!

I'm telling you is your opinions are all slanted and they're delusional and clueless and they if they keep landing on the quarterback, you got bigger problems than being upset about how your team's performing and underperforming and all that other nonsense this is systemic from the top to the bottom ,

but most of this is about coaching and it's been around the players around Prescott are not doing their job you can't play quarterback with things crumbling around you... I also remember in 2020 when we had a I think you're Elliot trying to run behind that terrible offensive line and he had like his worst year fumbling and everyone said he fumbles too much really without context again... I mean do you guys ever watch football before you keep blaming one person it's a team game and the last person on my list did I come to would be the quarterback would be Prescott or Romo because I've watched enough football to know this is from the top down coaching front office GM execution and mostly defense you can't even go into a game and have confidence that if you just play normal football that you can win a game your defense gives up so many easy touchdowns you come into a game thinking you have to play perfect and you know what happens you play tight you make mistakes you try to do too much because nothing else is working..

. By the way,

I don't care if you read this you don't like it or you're going to respond saying it's too long didn't read or it's too run on sentence and you don't know how to actually read what's in front of you even if it's not perfect...

because I use talk to text , trust me I can play word jumbles and puzzles where they have all the words mixed up with 1000 other letters that mean nothing and you got to pick out words sentences and numbers that's pretty easy if you can't read when I'm writing it's because you don't want to..

The truth is the quarterback's not our problem.

we tried to do this in 2022 he still won 12 games but he came back from a broken hand and he had a calf injury and he still managed to put together a very good season and right now there is no good season because this is like 2020 when you can't play well in the trenches your skill players are not executing your best players are also in your words have bad contracts Trayvon diggs and CD lamb aren't doing anything everybody else where's cake where's Michael Parsons all right they're not even playing we're missing 8 guys on defense...

Rants coming in the days to come on Dak blaming and shaming!!!!. I wont have it...
 

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completely disagree. Dak is worse than the Oline. Half the sacks are him holding the ball to long while open players are begging him to throw it.
It's amazing the crap people say on here without actually checking numbers.

According to the NFL's Next Gen Stats site -
The Cowboys are 19th in Time to Throw. That's not good.
19th in Intended Air Yards (Air yards per pass attempt on average)
20th in Completed Air Yards (Air yards per completed pass on average)

According to Pro Football Reference -
8th most sacked QB at 21
19th in Sack Yards lost

What do these tell us? They tell us that the offense has to make a lot of quick short throws. And when the QB is getting sacked, its not for big yardage. What does that mean? It means the QB isn't holding on to the ball for a long time, and is getting pressured and sacked fairly quickly.

It's amazing the trash people are allowed to spew here without backing any of it up.
 

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The oline sucks. Even Martin is having a terrible year.

Cooper Beebee? Thought he was supposed to be a plug and play 3rd rounder. Nope he's been average at best.

Steele? The weakest link by far.

The oline sucks big time.
Almost like one has to do with the other.

Then you throw in our futile run game and pathetic defense....it obviously = DAKS FAULT>
 
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