Dak has got to evolve if we want to beat Eagles

[RonnieT24]

The eagles game means nothing. The playoffs is what matters. They not catching the eagles.

I agree they probably don't catch the Eagles.. but I do think kicking their tails in couple of weeks will hold meaning for both teams. It will sow doubt in their minds about a playoff matchup.. and it will give our guys confidence about it.

 

[cnuball21]

The front office subtracting around you does not stop YOU from getting better even if your individual numbers may not look better on paper. The simple fact of the matter is this offense is largely killin it this season since Dak has returned. It's playing at or above the level it was last year WITH Cooper. I credit a lot of that to having a healthy Zeke back and Moore leaning more on the running game than he was willing to before.. albeit still not enough to satisfy me frankly.

The thing about where Dak is that he's trying to walk that tightrope between being too aggressive and turning the ball over and being too conservative and punting too much. It's not an easy balance to find .. some QBs never find it. The thing working in Dak's favor is that he is transitioning from being overly conservative. As such I think it should be easier for him to return to his natural instinct of protecting the ball than it would be if he were a natural gunslinger who needed to be reigned in. Not that it's "easy." Just "easier..."

I’d argue the run game is better this year but the passing game is worse than last year…largely in part to losing Cooper and MG not being the same after injury.

The passing game is efficient this year but nowhere near as explosive.

Fair point on Dak. But I do think having an actual playoff caliber WR room would greatly help
him with less congested throws.

 

[tromofan]

This is his 7th year starting,he's not evolving any longer, he's volved out..lol

As soon as KM realizes that this team has all the pieces to be balanced on offense, and not to panic and abandon the run, the sooner we can go further in the playoffs. 40 million ain't gonna turn Dak into a transformer.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Shut up. There have been multiple sticky posts about this subject - stop baiting people.

You don't even know what I'm talking about so you shut the hell up.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Lol.

It’s also harder to get better when your front office is subtracting around you and other teams are giving their QBs more weapons.

I'm glad someone is a Realist and not full of excuses tyvm

 

[cnuball21]

I'm glad someone is a Realist and not full of excuses tyvm

Always. Even when the opinion isn’t popular for my takes. I’ve questioned Zeke, Tyler and Sam (run defense) on here this year and you get some good dialogue for both sides.

For Dak though it’s just so polarized for some
reason. There’s a handful of dudes that think he’s trash / high end backup and there’s literally no professional analyst or metrics to support that.

l

 

[CowboysExchange]

Gallop and Schultz just dropped those balls in the end zone on Sunday because we leaned on the run game and Dak had injuries and is not himself

It had nothing to do with they couldn't make the clutch catch that hit them right on the numbers

Some of these arguments have no factual, statistical, or logical merit whatsoever

Its just a bunch of gaslighting lol

 

[RonnieT24]

I’d argue the run game is better this year but the passing game is worse than last year…largely in part to losing Cooper and MG not being the same after injury.

The passing game is efficient this year but nowhere near as explosive.

Fair point on Dak. But I do think having an actual playoff caliber WR room would greatly help
him with less congested throws.

Yeah I'd have to agree.. but bear in mind that after the Denver game last year teams went over the top trying to keep everything in front of them against us. That shell coverage has been a staple of pretty much every team we've faced since then including this year. They do a lot to try and disguise it but when the ball is snapped it almost always ends up there. That's why there have been fewer deep shots. And I am fine with that. If Dak and Moore stay patient we can move the ball up and down the field and then turn it over to Zeke and TP once you get down close. 5 or 6 of the INTs have been of the "getting greedy" variety.. where Dak has forced the ball down the field against the shell look. He has thrown the ball anticipating the receiver to fight through the face of the safety and they have let him down. Ultimately the decision to make that throw is on him but I have to believe it's something he has been instructed to do. Trust his guys. As I keep saying.. that comes at a price. Hopefully over the next four weeks he finds that balance. It's easy for us watching on TV to see it.. Not so easy when you're out there in the heat of battle.

 

[Texasfootball21]

Dak has evolved, he's a 7 year professional starting quarterback in the NFL. If he doesn't get it by now, he never will. Offensive coordinator must think Dak is Joe Montana or something. To many pass plays in the last game for sure.

Just drive the darn bus all the way to Arizona in 2023 and let the players around you do the dirty work. Work smarter not harder should be the philosophy going forward. (Protect the ball and we will win)

 

[CowboysExchange]

Yeah I'd have to agree.. but bear in mind that after the Denver game last year teams went over the top trying to keep everything in front of them against us. That shell coverage has been a staple of pretty much every team we've faced since then including this year. They do a lot to try and disguise it but when the ball is snapped it almost always ends up there. That's why there have been fewer deep shots. And I am fine with that. If Dak and Moore stay patient we can move the ball up and down the field and then turn it over to Zeke and TP once you get down close. 5 or 6 have the INTs have been of the "getting greedy" variety.. where Dak has forced the ball down the field against the shell look. He has thrown the ball anticipating the receiver to fight through the face of the safety and they have let him down. Ultimately the decision to make that throw is on him but I have to believe it's something he has been instructed to do. Trust his guys. As I keep saying.. that comes at a price. Hopefully over the next four weeks he finds that balance. It's easy for us watching on TV to see it.. Not so easy when you're out there in the heat of battle.

I love how we're always gonna get the ball down to the 5-6 yard line and run it in everytime. At least 3 times a game

But how is that running to score everytime strategy working out at the Playoff Level??? Against the top 3 running defenses in the League ???

Were using 2 rbs this year and have gotten away from old outdated rushing title mentality of only using only 1 RB and we have over 20 rushing tds now.

Back then ya only had to stop 1 player from scoring 3 tds now it's 2 ya gotta stop.

Its just too bad we didn't do it when we had that top wr core to go with it. Imo

Ya keep them rbs out the end zone and we got nothing to fall back on w this wr and te core

They can just barely score 2-3 tds per game in the regular season every other week or 3 or 4 weeks ya see

 

[Blackspider214]

Dak has evolved, he's a 7 year professional starting quarterback in the NFL. If he doesn't get it by now, he never will. Offensive coordinator must think Dak is Joe Montana or something. To many pass plays in the last game for sure.

Just drive the darn bus all the way to Arizona in 2023 and let the players around you do the dirty work. Work smarter not harder should be the philosophy going forward. (Protect the ball and we will win)

You left out the defense. They somehow always escape blame come playoff time. If DLaw and Parsons disappear like they did last year, this team is going nowhere. Our defense hasn't helped out in a divisional round playoff game since the Super Bowl winning era.

Heck go back to Green Bay 2016. Dak and the offense got blame for losing a game scoring 31 while the defense gave up 3 straight TDs to begin the game and a game winning FG with only seconds remaining.

 

[OmerV]

He has got to realize it’s a team game and it’s not all on him. It’s almost as he is forcing balls to rack up stats. Zeke is as good as I have seen him in years and pollard is a star. Lean on the run game and let them carry us. We don’t need all these force throws to win. We need him to stop turning the ball over and let the team rally around him. Oh and Kellen Moore needs to stop pulling the fullback in short yardage.

He is forcing balls, but I don't at all believe it's to put up stats. One of his problems in some years has been holding the ball too long - not making quick enough decisions. I think he's trying to fix that. The results have been mixed. At times that has been very effective, and a times he has unnecessarily risked INT's.

 

[mattjames2010]

You don't even know what I'm talking about so you shut the hell up.

Cowardly to try to cloak what you're doing here. I'll repeat: this form of baiting has been posted in multiple stickies this year because people have been trying to shut down criticism of Dak. What you're attempting isn't new.

Knock it off.

 

[cnuball21]

Yeah I'd have to agree.. but bear in mind that after the Denver game last year teams went over the top trying to keep everything in front of them against us. That shell coverage has been a staple of pretty much every team we've faced since then including this year. They do a lot to try and disguise it but when the ball is snapped it almost always ends up there. That's why there have been fewer deep shots. And I am fine with that. If Dak and Moore stay patient we can move the ball up and down the field and then turn it over to Zeke and TP once you get down close. 5 or 6 of the INTs have been of the "getting greedy" variety.. where Dak has forced the ball down the field against the shell look. He has thrown the ball anticipating the receiver to fight through the face of the safety and they have let him down. Ultimately the decision to make that throw is on him but I have to believe it's something he has been instructed to do. Trust his guys. As I keep saying.. that comes at a price. Hopefully over the next four weeks he finds that balance. It's easy for us watching on TV to see it.. Not so easy when you're out there in the heat of battle.

Agree with all…all good, valid stuff.

I think for the most part our run game has been rock solid against the Tampa 2 which has made it easier on the passing game. After that first
drive against HOU they stalled a bit and the passing game struggled to get going. Dak missed a few, multiple drops and I just don’t felt like Kellen had a good feel for the game.

When you watch Brady dissect the Cover 2 it’s a heavy dose of dump offs to RBs over the middle for 5 and deeper slants in the soft space. It’s almost like we never call that stuff. The RBs are always running horizontally and on the first pick we had 2 players side by side running slants - the opposite of zone beater. And yea - I know Dak ain’t Brady but it ain’t rocket science.

You can’t tell me Zeke can’t take a 3/4 yard dump off and fall forward for another yard or so. Same
for Pollard. For games like HOU there’s no reason out RBs shouldn’t have 8+ catches for an easy 50+ yards to keep the offense ahead of schedule.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Yeah I'd have to agree.. but bear in mind that after the Denver game last year teams went over the top trying to keep everything in front of them against us. That shell coverage has been a staple of pretty much every team we've faced since then including this year. They do a lot to try and disguise it but when the ball is snapped it almost always ends up there. That's why there have been fewer deep shots. And I am fine with that. If Dak and Moore stay patient we can move the ball up and down the field and then turn it over to Zeke and TP once you get down close. 5 or 6 of the INTs have been of the "getting greedy" variety.. where Dak has forced the ball down the field against the shell look. He has thrown the ball anticipating the receiver to fight through the face of the safety and they have let him down. Ultimately the decision to make that throw is on him but I have to believe it's something he has been instructed to do. Trust his guys. As I keep saying.. that comes at a price. Hopefully over the next four weeks he finds that balance. It's easy for us watching on TV to see it.. Not so easy when you're out there in the heat of battle.

It not that we aren't having success and winning games

Its just that some of these playoff teams are better balanced at scoring through the air and on the ground moreso than us in head to head

Esp on grass. We just have a turf pedigree

They have 3-4 guys that can cross that goal line more regularly against better defenses. 3-4 guys can carry the scoring avgs over a playoff span better than 2 guys.

All I see is a total scoring domination from our rbs in the regular season. And these other teams are rushing for 300 and Passing for 200 but their wr, te core, and Rb core are better scorers than ours

 

[CowboyFrog]

It’s very rare for adults to get smarter. Dak has a very low iq.

What makes you think he has a low IQ? have you met him and do you have professional credentials to evealuate his IQ? seriously asking, thats a very wierd thing to say about someone you have never met nor talked to...You think he passes the football bad thats one thing to Declare he has a low IQ just by watching him on TV has me curious...what makes you think that?

 

[tyke1doe]

You don't even know what I'm talking about so you shut the hell up.

Shots fired! SHOTS FIRED!!!!
Don't make Mamacita mad!!!

 

[cnuball21]

What makes you think he has a low IQ? have you met him and do you have professional credentials to evealuate his IQ? seriously asking, thats a very wierd thing to say about someone you have never met nor talked to...You think he passes the football bad thats one thing to Declare he has a low IQ just by watching him on TV has me curious...what makes you think that?

B/C if you don’t like Dak…you have to not only trash his play but you also have to trash his on football attributes. You gotta to all in.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Yeah I'd have to agree.. but bear in mind that after the Denver game last year teams went over the top trying to keep everything in front of them against us. That shell coverage has been a staple of pretty much every team we've faced since then including this year. They do a lot to try and disguise it but when the ball is snapped it almost always ends up there. That's why there have been fewer deep shots. And I am fine with that. If Dak and Moore stay patient we can move the ball up and down the field and then turn it over to Zeke and TP once you get down close. 5 or 6 of the INTs have been of the "getting greedy" variety.. where Dak has forced the ball down the field against the shell look. He has thrown the ball anticipating the receiver to fight through the face of the safety and they have let him down. Ultimately the decision to make that throw is on him but I have to believe it's something he has been instructed to do. Trust his guys. As I keep saying.. that comes at a price. Hopefully over the next four weeks he finds that balance. It's easy for us watching on TV to see it.. Not so easy when you're out there in the heat of battle.

Yeah I'd have to agree.. but bear in mind that after the Denver game last year teams went over the top trying to keep everything in front of them against us. That shell coverage has been a staple of pretty much every team we've faced since then including this year. They do a lot to try and disguise it but when the ball is snapped it almost always ends up there. That's why there have been fewer deep shots. And I am fine with that. If Dak and Moore stay patient we can move the ball up and down the field and then turn it over to Zeke and TP once you get down close. 5 or 6 of the INTs have been of the "getting greedy" variety.. where Dak has forced the ball down the field against the shell look. He has thrown the ball anticipating the receiver to fight through the face of the safety and they have let him down. Ultimately the decision to make that throw is on him but I have to believe it's something he has been instructed to do. Trust his guys. As I keep saying.. that comes at a price. Hopefully over the next four weeks he finds that balance. It's easy for us watching on TV to see it.. Not so easy when you're out there in the heat of battle.

I hope our defense can stop them

I hope our rbs can succeed at the Playoff level and don't get hobbled up.

But there is more HOPE than logical and statistical evidence would suggest at this point

I'm worried about AJ Browns Separation stats

He's open by 2-3 yards on every completion and our guys are only open by a foot bruh

We be lucky if our wr doesn't cut his route off too late or early at this point in his young career

Mahomes would be getting his fair share of ints also.

Cooper Rush played a great game against Philly I thought Dak couldn't have done that much better and won that game imo

Who is gonna cover their trio of wrs, stop their rbs, and keep their QB contained from running and scoring

I take SF and TB defense over our defense on grass any day

A grass pedigree transfers over to turf more than a turf pedigree transfers to grass

 

[Strykerscm]

There’s the group of Dak boys on here who are hellbent on making him being a low iq quarterback a color thing. Nobody talks like that here, only about the team.

Dak cannot read defenses and that’s proven out time and time again. Dak is 15% better than rush, and I think I’m being generous.