Dak is better than Jayden Daniels

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I wouldn't so sure about that. My password to log in to CZ is a derogatory term I use that reflects my displeasure for the person I view as the worst GM in professional sports. I wouldn't even call him a good owner either - a good owner would have fired this sorry excuse for a GM 25 years ago.
lol you’re probably right. A good owner would’ve fired his ***.
 

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Okay, rewatch a few games from 2016. When Dak was rolling out and buying time for receivers to get wide open, then tossing them a ball, he had his best season ever.
He still rolls out a little bit, but he does not have the speed or agility he once had and he's a target, so that's why he's not very effective .against good defenses . He needs at least 4 seconds in the pocket. Before he's comfortable throwing down fwhy's?

The ravens were pressuring him for 3 quarters , and Dak was helpless. Then in the fourth quarter, they decided to do a straight up 4 man rush/zone. Our guys were capable of blocking 4 and dak had a great quarter.
Guess why?
Ref the bold - Depending who you ask you might be told that Dak had a great quarter because he's so awesome, not because Balt took their foot off the Cowboys throat and made things much easier. We all know what really happened there, but a few refuse to acknowledge what everyone saw with their own eyes.
 

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Ref the bold - Depending who you ask you might be told that Dak had a great quarter because he's so awesome, not because Balt took their foot off the Cowboys throat and made things much easier. We all know what really happened there, but a few refuse to acknowledge what everyone saw with their own eyes.
Whether you approve or disapprove of Prescott, he is definitely one of the better rollout quarterbacks for accuracy and timing. I blame the offensive line for protection not Prescott. That’s what everybody saw reality.
 

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No he wasn't. 3701 yds is not a great passer. Only 22 TDs. Not great at all, not even close.
How many rushing td’s did he have? Only ask bc Dak passes for a 2 yard td instead of running it in. That’s not to say that Hurts hasn’t looked bad but he also has been without his receivers and has horrible play calling. Jayden is in a different league and I don’t need two or three years to see more. Guy was stud in the sec and did more in his two years there than Dak did at any time in Mississippi. He also was drafted high bc he had more tools than Dak had coming out. Guy can run, pass, and read a defense. He extends plays and gets something out of nothing. Also look at who has a wr and that should tell you something. The guy has Terry McLaurin for his number 1. As someone else said, barring injury, he’s going to be great.
 

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I’m trying to think without looking. Quincy Carter for Cowboys, maybe. There’s a handful of one year wonders,. But not many that only lasted one year.
No way can you add Quincy Carter to that list. :laugh: Are you serious? He only passed for 1072 yards with 5 TDs and 7 INT’s his rookie year. You better go back and take a closer look. Lol He only had about 1400 yards passing his second year with 7 TDs and 8 INT’s. He played better his third season when Parcells arrived, but he still wasn’t that good. Once again he had more INT’s than TDs. That ended up being his last season with the Cowboys. I’m talking about QBs that looked terrific as rookies then ended up flaming out.
 

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I can’t think of a rise and fall for a QB like RG3. Colin Kaepernick would be the closest.
 

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I'd take Danials over Dak every single time.
That’s mainly because you’re living in the moment. Personally, I would like to see at least a full season of Daniels and part of next season before making that decision. I want to see how he responds to bad games and if he can maintain his consistency.
 

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Not a fan of Dak in the slightest but some of these people worshipping Jayden Daniels are some of the silliest posts I’ve ever seen!! Jayden Daniels is the new flavor of the month and he isn’t that impressive. Once teams and tape catch up to him, he’s going to regress. I love myself some Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen, but Jayden Daniels? Commanders might make the playoffs and maybe even will have a two year run for the post season, but besides that? Please. Lets go Cowboys!!
It's possible Daniels eventually fades or DCoords catch up to him....but aside from what COULD happen in the future, or what you HOPE happens... what exactly are you not impressed with him about? He's single handedly turned that team from a dumpster fire to a legit threat in the NFC...and already is looking like Rookie of the Year.

Oh wait...nevermind....you're the guy that hints that Dak is better than Josh Allen and Mahomes, keeps guaranteeing wins before each and every game (throw a guarantee against the wall, see if it sticks, and just repeat over and over).

Gottit
 

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Carson Wentz would be another one who got off to a great start, but ended up flaming out. Similar to RG3 where he suffered an injury and lost his confidence.
 

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No he wasn't. 3701 yds is not a great passer. Only 22 TDs. Not great at all, not even close.
They were a run heavy team. Stats don't dictate the QB.

WHEN the coaches called for pass plays he was a very good (not great) passer that year. Also, they were constantly jumping on big leads...whivh leads to run heavy offense to burn out clock.

Conversely, average QBs can put up big numbers....especially if their team is always behind and they're getting garbage yds against prevent defenses like Dak does.

U gotta look deeper.
 

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That’s mainly because you’re living in the moment. Personally, I would like to see at least a full season of Daniels and part of next season before making that decision.
Not me, I'd do the trade today. We know exactly what we have in Dak, we have known for years what we have in Dak. He is not mysteriously going to change. With Daniel's no one knows what he is going to be yet. But the upside is tremendous. That said sure Daniel's could bomb and be nothing but a flash in the pan. But I'd rather lose in the playoffs with a young QB that is still learning then lose in the playoffs with the same old QB like Dak. Hope is a wonderful thing and with Daneils you have that, with Dak you don't
 

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Be careful . Daniels is not RG3. He’s going to.be a thorn in the NFCE for the foreseeable future . Ask Terry McLaurin what he thinks of the new QB .
 

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Not me, I'd do the trade today. We know exactly what we have in Dak, we have known for years what we have had in Dak. He is not mysteriously going to change. With Daniel's no one knows what he is going to be yet. But the upside is tremendous. That said sure Daniel's could bomb and be nothing but a flash in the pan. But I'd rather lose in the playoffs with a young QB that is still learning then lose in the playoffs with the same old QB like Dak. Hope is a wonderful thing and with Daneils you have that, with Dak you don't
What we have in Dak is real good, which is why he was extended. If you want to be one of those fans that acts like he’s no good go ahead. We saw what he’s capable of on Sunday night when he has some semblance of a running game and a defense that steps up. We’ll continue to lose in the playoffs no matter how Dak plays if the team doesn’t step up around him. That goes for any QB. QBs like Burrow and Josh Allen are having their issues. It takes a complete team to win it all. Daniels looks like the real deal, but he’s going to have his struggles this season because Washington doesn’t have a good defense. Their defense will catch up with them eventually. They’ll end up putting some critical games on Daniels shoulders and that’s when he’ll struggle. He has a lot of potential, but there’s no point continuing to act like the QB we have is a dud.
 

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When someone feels compelled to post that a 9 year vet making more than anyone in league history is better than a rookie with 5 starts under his belt, you just know Dak isn't as impressive as we keep hearing he is.

What a ridiculous topic.
 

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It's possible Daniels eventually fades or DCoords catch up to him....but aside from what COULD happen in the future, or what you HOPE happens... what exactly are you not impressed with him about? He's single handedly turned that team from a dumpster fire to a legit threat in the NFC...and already is looking like Rookie of the Year.

Oh wait...nevermind....you're the guy that hints that Dak is better than Josh Allen and Mahomes, keeps guaranteeing wins before each and every game (throw a guarantee against the wall, see if it sticks, and just repeat over and over).

Gottit
When have I ever hinted that Dak is better than Josh Allen or Mahomes?!?!
 

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What we have in Dak is real good, which is why he was extended. If you want to be one of those fans that acts like he’s no good go ahead. We saw what he’s capable of on Sunday night when he has some semblance of a running game and a defense that steps up. We’ll continue to lose in the playoffs no matter how Dak plays if the team doesn’t step up around him. That goes for any QB. QBs like Burrow and Josh Allen are having their issues. It takes a complete team to win it all. Daniels looks like the real deal, but he’s going to have his struggles this season because Washington doesn’t have a good defense. Their defense will catch up with them eventually. They’ll end up putting some critical games on Daniels shoulders and that’s when he’ll struggle. He has a lot of potential, but there’s no point in continuing to act like the QB we have is a dud.
I've never said Dak isnt good, he is a very good QB and if he is good enough for you as a fan, congrats. But for me, he is not. He has had 8 years to show what he can do, which is allot. But unfortunately it is still not enough to take any of his teams over the years to the promise land.

Dak is the longest tenure QB in the entire NFL as far as being on the same team, every other team in the NFL has changed QB's trying to better their team while the Cowboys just sit here and do the same thing over and over getting the same results which is being laughed at come playoff time

Why anyone thinks Dak deserves more chances is crazy but of course we all know JJ is crazy. Dallas has consistently changed players over the past 8 years, look at all of the different weapons Dak has had over the past 8 years both on the offensive and defensive side.

All I'm saying is it was well past the time to get rid of Dak and roll with someone new. Because again as a fan the Dallas team I'm watching every Sunday is the same team I've watched for the past 8 years. A new QB would of at least brought some excitement back to the fans
 
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I've never said Dak isnt good, he is a very good QB and if he is good enough for you as a fan, congrats. But for me, he is not. He has had 8 years to show what he can do, which is allot.

But unfortunately it is still not enough to take any of his teams over the years to the promise land. Dak is the longest tenure QB in the entire NFL as far as being on the same team, every other team in the NFL has changed QB's trying to better their team while the Cowboys just sit here and do the same thing over and over getting the same results whick is laughed at come playoff time

Why anyone thinks Dak deserves more chances is crazy but of course we all know JJ is crazy. Dallas has consistently changed players over the past 8 years, look at all of the different weapons Dak has had over the past 8 years both on the offensive and defensive side.

All I'm saying is it was well past the time to get rid of Dak and roll with someone new. Because again as a fan the Dallas the team I'm watching every Sunday is the same team I've watched for the past 8 years. A new QB would of at least brought some excitement back to the fans
Some of your comments make it appear like he isn’t very good. He’s plenty good enough to win a championship if he had a complete team around him that shows up in the playoffs, but he hasn’t. You’re one of those fans that are putting it on him. There’s Hall of Fame QBs like Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon that had losing playoff records because they didn’t have good enough teams around them. No QB is going to get their team over the hump in the playoffs when their defense lays a rotten egg. There’s no time to get rid of a very good QB. If you honestly believe Dak is a very good QB you wouldn’t want to get rid of him.

If he’s very good then why do you want him replaced and who do you replace him with? Was there a QB out there that was available who was better? Some of the same chatter we’re seeing here is probably going on in Cincinnati and Buffalo. Burrow has had injury issues and hasn’t been able to get the Bengals over the hump. Josh Allen has had his issues in Buffalo with 5 playoff losses. Some fans in Baltimore are probably getting a little frustrated with Lamar Jackson. You can’t just move on from very good QBs because you’re not winning a Super Bowl with them. This is a team sport!
 
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