Dak is just a regular season stat QB nothing more

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Confession before the real reason.

yep 44 points.

 

[Ranching]

When Rockport left last October - that was the very definition of quitting. At least Crash is still here discussing his views with you. Just because you disagree doesn't make him or anyone else a quitter.

I'm not talking about Rockport, I'm talking about a coach or fan, quitting on a player....now shoo, go and check if the pig laid her eggs

 

[Ranching]

Yeah...Mahomes is #2 in QBR. Prescott #1. Andy Reid is a first ballot HoF coach. Neither him nor Mahomes can erase all the holes on the team at present.

1. You need Tyler Guyton back asap...because this absolute fairy tale involving Nate Thomas is just that...a guy who has been hyped by wishful-thinking content creators and others surrounding the team. T. Steele has and will continue to be a liability in pass pro. They both got their rear ends overhauled against Detroit. So while you have your interior line sorted out and Guyton at LT, Steele is still a clear and present danger.

2. Shavon Revel ain't prime-time ready and he's out there with a knee brace on. This nonsense about Diggs is also just that. If he's 100% he should be worked back into the rotation. If he buys in keep him. If he doesn't then cut him loose next year. Simple as that. You need to see what this guy has left before you throw him off the boat. Edge, CB, S, LB should be the only things on the boards on draft day 2026.

3. The Cowboys need more carries and more dynamism from the RB room. Williams is a tank but you need a Gibbs type player to pair with him. A guy with great hands, good wiggle and swift feet...home run threat.

According to some around here, none of that matters.....It’s 100% the QBs fault

 

[Ranching]

I’m not quitting anything — I’m giving an opinion on a player. You’re the one turning a football debate into personal insults. Calm down, we’re just talking Cowboys.

Yes, the classic 'I’ll call you a quitter because I have no counterpoint' move. Bold strategy — pity it only works in high school debates. Facts still stand, my friend. Dak is what he is, and refusing to see it won’t make him suddenly elite. Enjoy the ride, I’ll be over here watching logic take the wheel.

Keep flailing, my friend — I’ll just keep standing here with facts and a smile. Facts > feelings, always.

What don't you get? I'm not disagreeing with you about Daks play.....apparently, you're a quitter at listening, too

 

[Ranching]

You keep calling everyone a ‘quitter’ because it’s easier than accepting the simple truth:
If a 10-year veteran needs constant hand-holding just to function, that’s not coaching, that’s life support.

Most QBs get coached between drives.
They don’t need a babysitter in their ear every snap like you’re describing.
That’s not NFL football… that’s training wheels.

And no, wanting to stop repeating the same failed formula isn’t ‘quitting.’
It’s called having standards, something you keep mistaking for negativity because it hurts your feelings.

You’re acting like Dak is some delicate houseplant that needs misting, sunlight, encouragement, and a pep talk every 3 minutes just to survive.
If that’s your argument, you’re proving my point for me.

I don’t expect magic from a rookie.
I just don’t expect year-10 panic from a veteran.

But hey, if believing in fairy-tale coaching fixes helps you sleep, enjoy it.
Some of us prefer the real world over the fluffy one you’re living in.

Not everyone, my conversation is with you.....

 

[Captain-Crash]

What don't you get? I'm not disagreeing with you about Daks play.....apparently, you're a quitter at listening, too

Not quitting, just listening, and enjoying how upset facts > feelings can make some people.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Not everyone, my conversation is with you.....

Ah, got it, you and I, then. Well, I’ll stick to facts, you stick to feelings, and we can both be entertained.

 

[noshame]

First of all, I'll never disappear because I was a Cowboys fan before Dak got here and I will be a Cowboys well after he's gone.

With that said, you didn't answer any of those questions I previously presented because you couldn't answer them honestly without contradicting yourself and crushing your own narratives.

You said he's not in Romo's league? Ok cool. But he took Romo's job and sent him into the retirement league. Romo had better coaching than Dallas and what did he do with that? Yeah... exactly. Loved the way Romo played for us though.

With all of that said, thank you for being a poster child for ducking and dodging very easy questions. You are the prime example of hypocrisy at its finest on this board.

Yall make it too easy....

What's your explanation for last year?
Because i'm not sure it was dak, but some guy with #4 jersey played over half the season and wasn't even in the top twenty in quarterback rating.
Go figure.
Anyway, you like him, I like him. He just isn't a guy that'll get us to a Super Bowl.
The team carries him, he doesn't carry the team. That's the difference.

 

[blueblood70]

Yeah...Mahomes is #2 in QBR. Prescott #1. Andy Reid is a first ballot HoF coach. Neither him nor Mahomes can erase all the holes on the team at present.

1. You need Tyler Guyton back asap...because this absolute fairy tale involving Nate Thomas is just that...a guy who has been hyped by wishful-thinking content creators and others surrounding the team. T. Steele has and will continue to be a liability in pass pro. They both got their rear ends overhauled against Detroit. So while you have your interior line sorted out and Guyton at LT, Steele is still a clear and present danger.

2. Shavon Revel ain't prime-time ready and he's out there with a knee brace on. This nonsense about Diggs is also just that. If he's 100% he should be worked back into the rotation. If he buys in keep him. If he doesn't then cut him loose next year. Simple as that. You need to see what this guy has left before you throw him off the boat. Edge, CB, S, LB should be the only things on the boards on draft day 2026.

3. The Cowboys need more carries and more dynamism from the RB room. Williams is a tank but you need a Gibbs type player to pair with him. A guy with great hands, good wiggle and swift feet...home run threat.

That's crazy isn't it everyone wanted Guyton gone Now they got their wish now everyone wants him back..lol I think Nate Thomas can be developed but he was not ready to be a full time left tackle...

Doesn't mean you give up on him.. But he's best to come off the bench without thinking Well the team didn't game plan for him and he only plays forever long in that game he needs to play because of an injury..

Revels a rookie whether he was injured or not and by the way you can play with a brace on your entire life it's not going to affect your play Not mentally or physically I wore one for a very long time I still wear one since my ACL surgery when I'm playing sports like doing flips on a wakeboard snowboarding and I'm 55 years old about to be 56, the brace does not hold you back... I think Revel is gonna do fine they just need to keep him playing..


You're right, he's still learning though, but they're calling upon him, he needs to play he needs this experience,

the one thing I agree with that was a dumb move with Diggs,

they should have let him play good bad or indifferent ,I wanted to see it ,

we needed help there even if he only played half the snaps..

The Lions had like nine or 10 guys on the questionable status all dinged up all injured ,They all played we had two Guyton obviously can't play but Diggs he said he was ready to play and they left him home that was a damn big mistake in my opinion..

Lions treated this like a must win game and the Cowboys staff did not leaving Diggs home was kind of weird You don't be careful when your season is on the line you throw it all out there and hope it sticks...

Also why I was shocked how the defense the first couple of series went all high pressure and we're definitely making an effect on the quarterback it wasn't perfect but you should have just did that all day just brought it and then they only do it like 4 times the rest of the game bring pressure bring blitzing they brought the wrong blitzes from the wrong spots I mean this whole game just smacked of negligence..


On the run game you're right that's why I wouldn't pay this man more than $8 million a year offer him three years 24 million guarantee the first two years but that is why a guy like Blue needs to be developed You ain't finding a Gibbs player very often they don't exist in every draft and if you do you have to get one high in the first round and that's not always smart.. Think it made that big a difference but that's why you try to develop a guy like Blue or the guy they just put on the practice squad you need to change a pace guy gibbs is a 3 down back so you would have to not sign Williams And justice go look for your dynamic back.

I think the Cowboys would be fine with Williams as long as they can find his counterpart his change of pace guy that's what they were hoping from Blue and that could still happen i'm not giving up on that and like I said the the guy they just put on the practice squad with a hard name to say or spell, Israel.....

That's what they need you're right, but I don't think you need to go draft him in the first round the Cowboys got too big a need to do that but you definitely need to find that counterpart to the running game...

 

[GINeric]

What's your explanation for last year?
Because i'm not sure it was dak, but some guy with #4 jersey played over half the season and wasn't even in the top twenty in quarterback rating.
Go figure.
Anyway, you like him, I like him. He just isn't a guy that'll get us to a Super Bowl.
The team carries him, he doesn't carry the team. That's the difference.

I support who we have at our disposal. Thats it thats all.

Dak is currently our quarterback and he's better than more than half of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL and has been his whole career.

Is Dak an elite quarterback? Nope. Is Dak good enough to win a Superbowl? I believe he is. He's been a perennial top 10 quarterback his whole career, he's become an All-Pro and MVP candidate. He's a very good quarterback.

Then you mentioned "he can't carry a team to a Superbowl" well here's a secret. No quarterback in history has ever carried a team to a Superbowl. If that were true then elite quarterbacks would go to and win a Superbowl every year.

Matthew Stafford is playing elite this season. But he was a first round drafted quarterback who i was told was elite. Well if a quarterback suppose to carry a team, why didn't he carry the Lions to a playoff win? He didn't win a playoff game until his 11th or 12th season.

His career record vs winning teams is something like 14-77. Elite quarterbacks suppose to carry the team right?

With all of that said, TEAMS make it to the Superbowl and TEAMS win Superbowls.

Look at Mahomes. Arguably the greatest quarterback in history, yet he and his team are fighting for a playoff spot. If quarterbacks carry teams, they would be undefeated because he's on GOAT status, but that ain't the case because his TEAM isn't playing good enough right now.

This isn't boxing or golf.

 

[GINeric]

I'd would personally call it something more pejorative. Prescott is the very least of the Cowboys problems at present. He finally elevates himself in 2023 and the defense collapses. Out for 2024. Picks up where he left off in 2025 and the defense is a clusterfk dressed in a clown suit. We would rail against Quinn for his run fits but oh would I love to have that 2022 defense right about now.

I was told blaming our problems on our 29th, 30th ranked defense all season before the by was an excuse......

This said by the same people who give other quarterbacks a pass for playing with a team with bad defenses.

Tell me what's wrong with this picture. We have some of the strongest people here on this forum. They use a new workout regimen called "Goal Post Lifts".

 

[GINeric]

Its funny that the defense gives up 44 points...yep 44. Let that sink in. And here are the Hate Dak Cult posting one Dak thread after another.

I dont get it.

And no. I am.not defending Dak...but 44 points people..Come on now

You can't educate stupid people bro. We have the only quarterback in NFL history who gets blamed for things that happen on defense and special teams.

 

[KB1122]

Well, Im the guy who started the "Should we trade Dak this off-season?" Thread in The Roster section. But Im pretty happy with his performance and Im not going to knee jerk about one game. And I realize people are considering previous years in their assessment here

I think the big issue with Dak is his age. He'll be 33 next year. That means 1, maybe 2 years left on the first NFL championship runway. Are we going to be ready by then?

DAK isn't likely to have higher trade value in the future. We should at least consider a Goff-Stafford type trade

 

[Ranching]

Ah, got it, you and I, then. Well, I’ll stick to facts, you stick to feelings, and we can both be entertained.

Bout time...thought i was gonna have to draw you a picture

 

[loublue22]

He’s been a different player this year.

Gotta give credit where credits due.

We have had a bad defense almost all year & the coordinator is pretty bad but I’m sure they’ll keep him.

he hasn't been a different player, he's been good at home and against bad teams, bad on the road against good teams

 

[Ranching]

Not quitting, just listening, and enjoying how upset facts > feelings can make some people.

Damn....I already told you, we agree with everything, except I think you're a quitters and you don't....I don't see what you don't understand.....I'm not arguing the facts.....other than thy one.

 

[DallasEast]

We have the only quarterback in NFL history who gets blamed for things that happen on defense and special teams.

 

[acr731]

I'm not talking about Rockport, I'm talking about a coach or fan, quitting on a player....now shoo, go and check if the pig laid her eggs

Pig eggs are the best - they taste just like bacon

 

[acr731]

We have the only quarterback in NFL history who gets blamed for things that happen on defense and special teams.

Can you point to a post where someone actually said that?

 

[GINeric]

Can you point to a post where someone actually said that?

Yes I can. As soon as you can explain all the posts of people blaming our record of being 6-6-1 on Dak who has been producing top 3 quarterback numbers on a top 3 ranked offense, while our defense has been ranked between 29th and 30th most of the season.