Dak is just a regular season stat QB nothing more

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak will forever be known as the stats regular season QB

When it matters against good teams and the playoffs he’s a total dud

/facts

so 65% completion. 30 point. 300+ yards passing, 400+ yards of offense, is considered a dud?

but yeah, getting raped by detroit for 44 points is Dak's fault.

/bullshirts...

 

[GINeric]

Have you watched Ruzh preform as well as Dak in the sane offense over and over again.
That's fact= credibility

Have you watched Rush get destroyed by the same Eagles franchise that Dak has owned since he been in the league?

Did you watch Rush looking like a community college quarterback with the Ravens? Lets test your football IQ with these quick questions....

1. If Cooper Rush is as good as Dak as you claim.... Rush has been in the NFL one less year than Dak. Why haven't Rush earned a max contract yet and spent most of his career bouncing on and off of practice squads and holding clipboard?

2. Dak has been a perennial top quarterback his and Cooper Rush's whole tenure in the NFL. Dak has also become an All-Pro and MVP candidate. Do you believe Rush has ever had the tools or capability to be a perennial top 10 quarterback, the capability to become an All-Pro, or the capability to become an MVP candidate?

3. If Cooper Rush is as good as you built him up to be.... or claiming he could consistently do what Dak does AT THE LEVEL Dak does it.... why haven't 31 other GMs or coaches snatched Rush from the practice squad or roster, signed him to a long term contract and named him the starter?

4. Apparently 31 other GMs and coaches don't see the same things in Cooper Rush that you have claimed he has in his game. So do you believe your know more about evaluating NFL quarterback talent than highly NFL GMs and coaches?

I guarantee you couldn't answer any of these questions in an honest way without destroying the credibility of your posts.

(Here's where they usually fade into the Abyss and duck these types of questions like flying bullets)

 

[DUO_CORE]

Some are old enough to remember when Tom Landry was "just a regular season coach".

 

[GINeric]

so 65% completion. 30 point. 300+ yards passing, 400+ yards of offense, is considered a dud?

but yeah, getting raped by detroit for 44 points is Dak's fault.

/bullshirts...

NOOOOO!!! Why do you have to go pulling out narrative killing, real life facts again??

You ever seen the movies where Vampires get hit with sunlight? Well thats the same way these low football IQ trolls curl up and scream out in agony when you shine those real life facts onto their false narratives.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Thats a fair take, I respect it.

However.... Dak had to perform against the Eagles and Chiefs in two games that were sorely needed to win. You don't think he put pressure on himself in those games? He certainly didn't come up short.

His kryptonite, as I see it, appear in-game and when it's the 'last chance' nowhere to go and when things arent going his way.....that inability to put the mistakes (by others a lot of the time) and control his anxiety (when clock, distance or Downs are against him)........indeed.....
.....pretty much every game in which we can get a lead (particularly remembering the Tampa play-off game), he can imperiously run the game HIS WAY.
THIS YEARS EAGLES GAME WAS SO IMPRESSIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID, IT WAS THAT HE ALLOWED THOSE AROUND HIM TO PERFORM.....Pickens miracle catches and Javonte/Malik's run game.
On the other hand look at the GB game, yes the Defense was poor, however, the run game was still working....Dak chose to abandon the run and look where it got us.

 

[GINeric]

‘Meltdowns happen to everyone’… sure.
But with Dak, they don’t happen sometimes — they happen every January, every year. That’s the difference.

Lamar had a bad playoff game.
Allen had a bad playoff game.
Mahomes has had bad playoff games.

But they also have playoff runs. Multiple wins. Championship games. Clutch moments.
Dak’s entire postseason résumé is one wild card win in eight years.

That’s not ‘elite QBs mess up too.’
That’s a consistent pattern.

And the penalty excuse?
Every team has sloppy games. The great QBs overcome them — or at least keep their team competitive. Dak’s offense scored 7 points in three quarters that night before the desperation rally started.

Saying ‘he didn’t commit the penalties’ doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t elevate the team, either.

It’s simple:

Other top QBs have occasional playoff meltdowns.
Dak has annual ones.
That’s facts > feelings, my guy

Ok, now here's where you lost me....

You said penalties were an excuse? Ok well give me the list of ANY quarterback in NFL history who was able to help lead his team to a playoff win vs a number one ranked defense in the postseason and his own team commits 14, 25 penalties.

If no other quarterback was able to overcome that, then why is Dak expected to?

Ok let's get to this "elevate them" comment. There's some truth to that, but it doesn't always operate like that.

I was told that Matthew Stafford was an elite quarterback his whole career. While I can say he's elite NOW, he wasn't elite his whole career because elite quarterbacks aren't 14-77 vs winning teams like Stafford is. Stafford didn't win a playoff until his 11th or 12th season in the NFL.

He was a first round drafted quarterback who was considered elite.... yet he wasn't able to "elevate" his teams in Detroit? There are no excuses for that.

Then he goes to the Rams and was on a Superbowl winning team.... yet he led the league in interceptions that season. That shows what having great coaching and rosters can do for you.

I don’t have a problem with alot of things you've posted, but to call penalties an excuse is mind boggling. Do you realize until last season, we led the NFL in penalties 3 straight seasons? What team will do anything significant with that lack of discipline? I don't care who the quarterback is, his supporting cast and coaches have to perform.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Ok, now here's where you lost me....

You said penalties were an excuse? Ok well give me the list of ANY quarterback in NFL history who was able to help lead his team to a playoff win vs a number one ranked defense in the postseason and his own team commits 14, 25 penalties.

If no other quarterback was able to overcome that, then why is Dak expected to?

Ok let's get to this "elevate them" comment. There's some truth to that, but it doesn't always operate like that.

I was told that Matthew Stafford was an elite quarterback his whole career. While I can say he's elite NOW, he wasn't elite his whole career because elite quarterbacks aren't 14-77 vs winning teams like Stafford is. Stafford didn't win a playoff until his 11th or 12th season in the NFL.

He was a first round drafted quarterback who was considered elite.... yet he wasn't able to "elevate" his teams in Detroit? There are no excuses for that.

Then he goes to the Rams and was on a Superbowl winning team.... yet he led the league in interceptions that season. That shows what having great coaching and rosters can do for you.

I don’t have a problem with alot of things you've posted, but to call penalties an excuse is mind boggling. Do you realize until last season, we led the NFL in penalties 3 straight seasons? What team will do anything significant with that lack of discipline? I don't care who the quarterback is, his supporting cast and coaches have to perform.

You’re arguing against points I never made, my guy.

No one said Dak should magically overcome 15 penalties against the #1 defense — nobody on earth expects any QB to win that game.
That wasn’t the point.

The point is this:

Dak doesn’t melt down once in a blue moon.
He melts down every postseason.

One game with penalties didn’t define him — the entire playoff résumé did.

You brought up Stafford?
Perfect example… because he proved my point for me:

Stafford struggled for years in Detroit

Then immediately won multiple playoff games and a Super Bowl the moment he had a real roster

Because he actually elevated a good team when the moment arrived

Dak?
Dak gets stacked rosters and still produces:

1 playoff win in 8 years

Multiple games with <20 points

Multi-INT January performances

Yearly ‘we’ll try again next time’ collapses

That’s the difference.

And penalties? Sure — they hurt.
But penalties haven’t shown up every single January for a decade.
Dak’s playoff performance drop-off has.

If the pattern only happened once, you’d have a case.
When the same pattern shows up every single postseason, that’s not “excuses vs blame,” that’s just data.

You call it mind-boggling.
I call it simple:

Hurt feelings hate patterns. Statistics don’t.”

 

[GINeric]

You’re arguing against points I never made, my guy.

No one said Dak should magically overcome 15 penalties against the #1 defense — nobody on earth expects any QB to win that game.
That wasn’t the point.

The point is this:

Dak doesn’t melt down once in a blue moon.
He melts down every postseason.

One game with penalties didn’t define him — the entire playoff résumé did.

You brought up Stafford?
Perfect example… because he proved my point for me:

Stafford struggled for years in Detroit

Then immediately won multiple playoff games and a Super Bowl the moment he had a real roster

Because he actually elevated a good team when the moment arrived

Dak?
Dak gets stacked rosters and still produces:

1 playoff win in 8 years

Multiple games with <20 points

Multi-INT January performances

Yearly ‘we’ll try again next time’ collapses

That’s the difference.

And penalties? Sure — they hurt.
But penalties haven’t shown up every single January for a decade.
Dak’s playoff performance drop-off has.

If the pattern only happened once, you’d have a case.
When the same pattern shows up every single postseason, that’s not “excuses vs blame,” that’s just data.

You call it mind-boggling.
I call it simple:

Hurt feelings hate patterns. Statistics don’t.”

I'll just say it like this. Its more than just Dak or the roster as well. Coaching is a huge component in it all.

Let's take a look back into these playoff match ups. Have we ever had a coaching staff that was considered better than our opposition? Im trying to remember....

Anyways all I can conclude with is our quarterback is a perennial top ten very good quarterback. It is what it is. He's playing at a top 3 level in every quarterbacking category this season.

Now if we had half of our players makers on offense AND defense playing at a top 3, top 5 level at their positions as Dak is playing at his, we may have had home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

Dak isn't elite, but he's playing amongst the top quarterbacks.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. It never is about the feelings, its always been about the facts.....

 

[CowboyoWales]

You brought up Stafford?
Perfect example… because he proved my point for me:

Stafford struggled for years in Detroit

Then immediately won multiple playoff games and a Super Bowl the moment he had a real roster

Because he actually elevated a good team when the moment arrived

Yep, regardless of roster or skill comparison, the stark difference was that in Stafford's SB win he helped orchestrate 3 4th Q comeback wins and the Tampa game saw him 2nd and 11 on his own 24 yard line. We had 4thQ chances in the SF games and was it wise for Dak to abandon the run (which was working) vrs GB play-off......in the KEggs win a couple of weeks ago he didnt try too much, continued to use a complimentary run/pass game.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I'll just say it like this. Its more than just Dak or the roster as well. Coaching is a huge component in it all.

Let's take a look back into these playoff match ups. Have we ever had a coaching staff that was considered better than our opposition? Im trying to remember....

Anyways all I can conclude with is our quarterback is a perennial top ten very good quarterback. It is what it is. He's playing at a top 3 level in every quarterbacking category this season.

Now if we had half of our players makers on offense AND defense playing at a top 3, top 5 level at their positions as Dak is playing at his, we may have had home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

Dak isn't elite, but he's playing amongst the top quarterbacks.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. It never is about the feelings, its always been about the facts.....

Coaching matters — absolutely.
But coaching doesn’t erase patterns that show up every single postseason.

If it were just one bad matchup, or one bad staff, or one bad roster flaw… nobody would be having this debate.
The reason this conversation even exists is because every January looks the same, no matter who’s coaching, calling plays, or lining up next to Dak.

You keep saying ‘numbers don’t lie,’ and you’re right — they don’t.

Here’s the part you keep skipping:

Dak’s regular-season numbers stay top-10.
Dak’s postseason numbers crater.

Same QB.
Same mechanics.
Same talent around him.
The only thing that changes is the moment.

That’s not coaching — that’s pressure.

And ‘top 10’ is fine.
‘Very good’ is fine.
But if the goal is a championship, then at some point the QB has to be more than “top 10 when the stakes are low.”

Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t — and the numbers say:

Top-tier regular season

Bottom-tier postseason

Eight-year pattern

Same results, different excuses every season

If we’re being factual — and not emotional — that’s the story.

Feelings try to protect the narrative.
Facts tell the truth every time.”

 

[Doomsday]

Well least of problem, means he was still one of the problems. He is seed ceedee twice, then threw the ball where ceedee had to try acrobatics that got him concussed and posturing. Dak ducks and he's the only one here since 2016. We've heard all the excuses, time to own up to reality, just not good enough.

Every QB misses throws, how many did Mahomes miss on Thanksgiving?

The game plan on offense was bad, they didn't adjust to the bracket coverage were using on Pickens and they still put up 417 yards and 30 points. More than enough to win if your defense isn't total trash.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

IF Dak even makes it to the post season , he is a ONE AND DONE QB in playoffs

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

DAK IS USELESS IN POST SEASON VERSUS GOOD TEAMS .

 

[Pola_pe_a]

Dak is a very good / borderline elite QB but a below average winner. Some guys have the “it” where they can lock in at the worst times and consistently up their play in the biggest moments. Call it clutch call it whatever you want. There are some guys that want the ball and know they are going to win and there are other guys that think they’re going to win.
Brady had it. Peyton didn’t but Eli did. Give me Peyton any day of the week. But one drive to win a game I’ll take Eli.
Jalen Hurts has it. Guy is an average NFL QB but in the biggest games / moments he steps up and finds a way.
McNabb didn’t have it. Was a top 8 QB most of his career but in the biggest moments he came up small.
Yes coaching, talent etc. all contributes to winning but no other position in sports impacts the game as much as QB and some guys just have the “it” where others don’t. . Dak has shown he doesn’t have “it”.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

The frickin idiocy of Jerry !

Paying an average QB the most expensive contract , IN A CAP ERA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GINeric]

Coaching matters — absolutely.
But coaching doesn’t erase patterns that show up every single postseason.

If it were just one bad matchup, or one bad staff, or one bad roster flaw… nobody would be having this debate.
The reason this conversation even exists is because every January looks the same, no matter who’s coaching, calling plays, or lining up next to Dak.

You keep saying ‘numbers don’t lie,’ and you’re right — they don’t.

Here’s the part you keep skipping:

Dak’s regular-season numbers stay top-10.
Dak’s postseason numbers crater.

Same QB.
Same mechanics.
Same talent around him.
The only thing that changes is the moment.

That’s not coaching — that’s pressure.

And ‘top 10’ is fine.
‘Very good’ is fine.
But if the goal is a championship, then at some point the QB has to be more than “top 10 when the stakes are low.”

Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t — and the numbers say:

Top-tier regular season

Bottom-tier postseason

Eight-year pattern

Same results, different excuses every season

If we’re being factual — and not emotional — that’s the story.

Feelings try to protect the narrative.
Facts tell the truth every time.”

We both agree that feelings had no part in our discussion. The facts that I've presented are what they are. Facts.

Take the emotion away and just rely on the facts and everything involved within a team game. No room for feelings....

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

10 years of Dak , how is this up to debate ?

"Dak is just a regular season stat QB nothing more "​

the OP is spot on .

 

[blueblood70]

Have you watched Rush get destroyed by the same Eagles franchise that Dak has owned since he been in the league?

Did you watch Rush looking like a community college quarterback with the Ravens? Lets test your football IQ with these quick questions....

1. If Cooper Rush is as good as Dak as you claim.... Rush has been in the NFL one less year than Dak. Why haven't Rush earned a max contract yet and spent most of his career bouncing on and off of practice squads and holding clipboard?

2. Dak has been a perennial top quarterback his and Cooper Rush's whole tenure in the NFL. Dak has also become an All-Pro and MVP candidate. Do you believe Rush has ever had the tools or capability to be a perennial top 10 quarterback, the capability to become an All-Pro, or the capability to become an MVP candidate?

3. If Cooper Rush is as good as you built him up to be.... or claiming he could consistently do what Dak does AT THE LEVEL Dak does it.... why haven't 31 other GMs or coaches snatched Rush from the practice squad or roster, signed him to a long term contract and named him the starter?

4. Apparently 31 other GMs and coaches don't see the same things in Cooper Rush that you have claimed he has in his game. So do you believe your know more about evaluating NFL quarterback talent than highly NFL GMs and coaches?

I guarantee you couldn't answer any of these questions in an honest way without destroying the credibility of your posts.

(Here's where they usually fade into the Abyss and duck these types of questions like flying bullets)

That's crazy Prescott had a great game a very good game and yet it fell short because all his teammates decided to have their worst games they were loafing they were lazy they made all the mistakes the interceptions the fumbles they were all on the players around Prescott imagine if all that doesn't happen I mean we put up 30 points with our quarterback running for his life yet getting the ball to the players who decided to just let them drop to the ground or into the hands of other teams players.

The crazy perspective on how these haters watch these games is insane he had a very good game it wasn't stacked padding that literally got this team within three points just to let the defense and Flournoy drop the ball again I mean literally it just kept happening no matter how much press got fought to keep his team in the game with no run game no offensive line and his receiver his actual number one receiver goes out with a concussion the rest of the team just kept making mistakes after mistakes after mistakes the defense was horrible the coaching was horrible and somehow have to wake up and read a post about Prescott nothing but a regular season stat guy it is the dumbest narrative on the planet this man had a very good game his team let him down and the leader that he is he goes online and and listens to the media questions and takes the blame for everyone else.. ..

 

[blueblood70]

This is absolutely hilarious whoever started this and I'm not going back to look so I don't call anybody out and get in trouble I could tell you this right now this is one of the best stretches since the bye week have actually been playoff games that Prescott's ever had and against good teams against great teams and great defenses and yes this includes the Lions game he played very good I don't know what the heck you were looking at the rest of the team let him down The interceptions were not on him the fumbles were not on him him being harassed in the backfield almost all game and still put up four hundred yards and thirty points with all those other problems and a terrible trashy defense and this is what we hear people's ridiculously twisted perspective on who he is...


The hate is real.. Yes I said it including the Lions game all four of those games since the bye week Prescott has carried this team yes he's had help but he's had to overcome a lot in that Lions game there were too many mistakes made by his teammates and his coaching staff to overcome and this is what we're doing we're going to have a he's just a regular season stat guy you're nuts these four games were playoff atmospheres and he played very well at a high level in all four games including the Lions game...

haters.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

That's crazy Prescott had a great game a very good game and yet it fell short because all his teammates decided to have their worst games they were loafing they were lazy they made all the mistakes the interceptions the fumbles they were all on the players around Prescott imagine if all that doesn't happen I mean we put up 30 points with our quarterback running for his life yet getting the ball to the players who decided to just let them drop to the ground or into the hands of other teams players.

The crazy perspective on how these haters watch these games is insane he had a very good game it wasn't stacked padding that literally got this team within three points just to let the defense and Flournoy drop the ball again I mean literally it just kept happening no matter how much press got fought to keep his team in the game with no run game no offensive line and his receiver his actual number one receiver goes out with a concussion the rest of the team just kept making mistakes after mistakes after mistakes the defense was horrible the coaching was horrible and somehow have to wake up and read a post about Prescott nothing but a regular season stat guy it is the dumbest narrative on the planet this man had a very good game his team let him down and the leader that he is he goes online and and listens to the media questions and takes the blame for everyone else.. ..

Are you really attacking everyone who speaks FACTS about dak ?

what are you doing ?

Free speech bro .