Dak is not my QB

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They are not in anyway the same QB. If Romo played with 3 all-pros on OL and without Jason Garrett interfering in the offense and a garbage NFC and Zeke averaging 5 YPC we would hand had much better results.
Romo had 12 Pro Bowlers and you guys will say it's not enough lol. Had a great defensive mind in Wade Phillips.
 

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God forbid a Cowboy fan talks positive about a......Cowboy.....tHE HORROR!!!!!!!!
God forbid, we choose not to play the game of pick who you like better pick who you hate how about I just like them all.... I can see the differences I can see the positive negatives of both Romo and Prescott both of who I think are better than Danny white Danny white had a negative touchdown interception ratio in the playoffs he was close to a even touchdown interception ratio in the regular season this man had more turnovers but hey he played in three championship games so he must be really really good how was his team really really good but you know what I can accept he was a very good player because Tom Landry thought he was but he also had a Hall of Fame offensive line coaching staff defense and running back let's keep perspective here some of these quarterbacks were blaming for our problems don't have the ones that say Troy and Roger had or even to an extent I can imagine Prescott or Romo would have been better fit then Danny white was if you really look at the big picture but all of them are top five all time cowboy quarterbacks and can we not enjoy all of them can we not see the positives in every one of them because they wore the star and they are breaking records they are franchise quarterbacks we're not trying to compare Quincy Carter and say who's better no we literally are talking about top five quarterbacks that's ever put the Cowboys uniform on and somehow you guys are forgetting how the league have a hard time finding those......

Trust me I was the biggest Romo fan ever and it took me a few years to let it settle in and really open my eyes and appreciate Prescott and what he brings to this team given the fact that isn't it true the narrative around here that everyone wants us to get on board with is our front office doesn't do enough in the offseason with free agency with in season trades to improve our team and yet when it comes down to it we leave that out when we're blaming the quarterback even though the first this year there was nonexistent run game an inconsistent and pretty bad offensive line a bad defense for sure injuries took their tolls but the schemes and the coaching need to come into play along with the deficiencies of the front office when you add that up how can you compare these two quarterbacks and try to pick them to get against each other when they both have to suffer through what this front office did versus how it was for Troy and Roger they had it easy!!

Their teams are loaded you know like right now you look at the lions team you look at the Rams when they're Super Bowl year they didn't ask Stafford to be perfect nobody really goes down on Stafford and says why did you leave the league in interceptions why did you throw 2 interceptions in the Super bowl you know why because the defense picked them up the special teams the coaching they picked the team up the teams won the Super bowl this is what happened in the 90s and the 70s for the Cowboys our teams were built to win championships..

In my eyes Tony Romo and dak have had to play without the benefit of any of that and yet they're being picked on but we should feel lucky we stumbled upon 2 quarterbacks that can play a decade and whether you like it or not you're blaming them for the playoff losses and I can tell you I watched all those playoff games they didn't have many of their players show up or many of their coaches come up with a plan to beat the other coaches they literally got their butts kicked on every level and even if the games were close when it came down to it we did not have enough to get to the next level and it had nothing to do with the quarterbacks there are no quarterbacks that could do it on their own....​
 

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God forbid, we choose not to play the game of pick who you like better pick who you hate how about I just like them all.... I can see the differences I can see the positive negatives of both Romo and Prescott both of who I think are better than Danny white Danny white had a negative touchdown interception ratio in the playoffs he was close to a even touchdown interception ratio in the regular season this man had more turnovers but hey he played in three championship games so he must be really really good how was his team really really good but you know what I can accept he was a very good player because Tom Landry thought he was but he also had a Hall of Fame offensive line coaching staff defense and running back let's keep perspective here some of these quarterbacks were blaming for our problems don't have the ones that say Troy and Roger had or even to an extent I can imagine Prescott or Romo would have been better fit then Danny white was if you really look at the big picture but all of them are top five all time cowboy quarterbacks and can we not enjoy all of them can we not see the positives in every one of them because they wore the star and they are breaking records they are franchise quarterbacks we're not trying to compare Quincy Carter and say who's better no we literally are talking about top five quarterbacks that's ever put the Cowboys uniform on and somehow you guys are forgetting how the league have a hard time finding those......

Trust me I was the biggest Romo fan ever and it took me a few years to let it settle in and really open my eyes and appreciate Prescott and what he brings to this team given the fact that isn't it true the narrative around here that everyone wants us to get on board with is our front office doesn't do enough in the offseason with free agency with in season trades to improve our team and yet when it comes down to it we leave that out when we're blaming the quarterback even though the first this year there was nonexistent run game an inconsistent and pretty bad offensive line a bad defense for sure injuries took their tolls but the schemes and the coaching need to come into play along with the deficiencies of the front office when you add that up how can you compare these two quarterbacks and try to pick them to get against each other when they both have to suffer through what this front office did versus how it was for Troy and Roger they had it easy!!

Their teams are loaded you know like right now you look at the lions team you look at the Rams when they're Super Bowl year they didn't ask Stafford to be perfect nobody really goes down on Stafford and says why did you leave the league in interceptions why did you throw 2 interceptions in the Super bowl you know why because the defense picked them up the special teams the coaching they picked the team up the teams won the Super bowl this is what happened in the 90s and the 70s for the Cowboys our teams were built to win championships..

In my eyes Tony Romo and dak have had to play without the benefit of any of that and yet they're being picked on but we should feel lucky we stumbled upon 2 quarterbacks that can play a decade and whether you like it or not you're blaming them for the playoff losses and I can tell you I watched all those playoff games they didn't have many of their players show up or many of their coaches come up with a plan to beat the other coaches they literally got their butts kicked on every level and even if the games were close when it came down to it we did not have enough to get to the next level and it had nothing to do with the quarterbacks there are no quarterbacks that could do it on their own....​
Can you say all that in Pig Latin?
 

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Naw this is facts. I liked Romo nothing against him but his fans are annoying as hell. He retired and now they talk about him like he was Brady.
That's my view about Dak and his fan base.
When it comes down to it, one of them you'd want in a shoot out and the other to maintain a lead.....NEITHER ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH PLAYOFFS WHILST TAKING UP A LARGE CAP%.
 

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That's my view about Dak and his fan base.
When it comes down to it, one of them you'd want in a shoot out and the other to maintain a lead.....NEITHER ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO GET THROUGH PLAYOFFS WHILST TAKING UP A LARGE CAP%.
I'd want neither in a shoot out. I'd take both to maintain a lead. But in their defense there's not many I'd want in a shootout. Current day probably Mahomes and Josh Allen I'd trust. IN Romo's era....Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rodgers....probably the only guys I'd want in a shoot out.
 

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I'd want neither in a shoot out. I'd take both to maintain a lead.
So, why do you Marathoned every argument about Dak with this incessant Dead Cat, 'blame everyone' , other than Dak.
If you see Dak as ostensibly a reincarnation of Romo, then there's nearly 20 years of evidence that we need a different approach, rather than playing behind an expensively overpaid vet.
 

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So, why do you Marathoned every argument about Dak with this incessant Dead Cat, 'blame everyone' , other than Dak.
If you see Dak as ostensibly a reincarnation of Romo, then there's nearly 20 years of evidence that we need a different approach, rather than playing behind an expensively overpaid vet.
I've asked you numerous times to show me where I've "marathoned every argument" or where I've "blamed everyone" other than Dak. You can't find it because that's not what I do. When I say Dak sucks you guys are quiet as a mouse. If I say McCarthy sucks you guys are loud and say I'm "blaming everyone". At this point you see whatever you want its perfectly fine.

Even now. I say Dak and Romo are the same person and people have. issue with it when in fact they are having the same exact career. The only difference is Dak seems to get to the playoffs more than he did but the career is the same. Regular season stats and flop in the post season.

The results will never change. If we had Mahomes he would be a choke artist here.

It's been 28 years. Your insistence to avoid what the real issue is.....I just can't help if you don't see it.
 

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I've asked you numerous times to show me where I've "marathoned every argument" or where I've "blamed everyone" other than Dak. You can't find it because that's not what I do. When I say Dak sucks you guys are quiet as a mouse. If I say McCarthy sucks you guys are loud and say I'm "blaming everyone". At this point you see whatever you want its perfectly fine.

Even now. I say Dak and Romo are the same person and people have. issue with it when in fact they are having the same exact career. The only difference is Dak seems to get to the playoffs more than he did but the career is the same. Regular season stats and flop in the post season.

The results will never change. If we had Mahomes he would be a choke artist here.

It's been 28 years. Your insistence to avoid what the real issue is.....I just can't help if you don't see it.
You are correct right now mahomes has had maybe a season and 1/2 or he's not even playing up to his own standards he's playing at some level like Prescott and Romo did but the thing that's different is his coaching staff defense special teams situational football decision making the team is better around him...

Most fans do not understand the team game that's why they keep blaming the quarterback for the losses like he's supposed to overcome everything especially the more they get paid the more they're responsible for the losses....​
It gets old when it's apparent to most of us you look up in the offensive line has 11 penalties or they're stopping the run cold and they're making US1 dimensional players are not getting open that's the typical penalty leading playoffs that we have where everybody is contributing to the loss but they always playing the quarterback..​
I see lots of games where the quarterback gets bailed out by his team but gets credit for the win but in Dallas it just seems like they blame the quarterback for everything even though there is very very large amounts of information and facts to support the fact that there were players on the team that created a tough situation for the quarterback to play in....​
I'll never understand it I guess you have to watch enough football and not hate a player as much to see reality and you see it all over the NFL the quarterback get bailed out in games because the teams coming into the playoffs were better prepared they were better overall they made more plays 'cause you got guys like Eli Manning winning 2 Super Bowls despite him having a 500 record for his career and for leading the league and interceptions three years and making a lot of mistakes that were covered up but that is how teams get to the championship games and get to the Super bowl and win Super Bowls because the teams themselves found ways to cover up the deficiencies as a team they didn't give up and blame the quarterback they didn't come in the next half and go well the quarterback through 2 interceptions in the first half so we're going to quit we're not going to play well.... I've seen this with our own team I've seen Troy Aikman in the Super bowl we were down to the Buffalo Bills because he threw an interception he was having a bad game I believe we were down 10 points and in the second-half what happens the defense gets a turnover they score they start running the ball downhill they take the pressure off the quarterback and win that game that is how most games happen most of the time it takes the entire team to win the big games..​
Come out of this place mistakes some of the quarterbacks who have the rings around here like Troy and Roger as if they carried the team they never mentioned the offensive line and Tony Dorsett and Emmett Smith and the great defenses and the great coaching Staffs they they forget they forget that they threw interceptions in those games.... I mean in some sense, if you look at it Danny white and Eli Manning are pretty much the same player except Eli Manning has two Super Bowl wins...​
 

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I've asked you numerous times to show me where I've "marathoned every argument" or where I've "blamed everyone" other than Dak. You can't find it because that's not what I do. When I say Dak sucks you guys are quiet as a mouse. If I say McCarthy sucks you guys are loud and say I'm "blaming everyone". At this point you see whatever you want its perfectly fine.

Even now. I say Dak and Romo are the same person and people have. issue with it when in fact they are having the same exact career. The only difference is Dak seems to get to the playoffs more than he did but the career is the same. Regular season stats and flop in the post season.

The results will never change. If we had Mahomes he would be a choke artist here.

It's been 28 years. Your insistence to avoid what the real issue is.....I just can't help if you don't see it.
You Marathon every Dak argument. You show me where you've blamed Dak (more than a one line throw away, followed by paragraphs on overriding issues).
The Romo perspective is a less than subtle take that those against Dak are pre-Romo.
We all agree it's Jerry, but Dak demanding the year element of the contract and NTC is a contributory factor on the issues in the next couple of years.
 

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You are correct right now mahomes has had maybe a season and 1/2 or he's not even playing up to his own standards he's playing at some level like Prescott and Romo did but the thing that's different is his coaching staff defense special teams situational football decision making the team is better around him...

Most fans do not understand the team game that's why they keep blaming the quarterback for the losses like he's supposed to overcome everything especially the more they get paid the more they're responsible for the losses....​
It gets old when it's apparent to most of us you look up in the offensive line has 11 penalties or they're stopping the run cold and they're making US1 dimensional players are not getting open that's the typical penalty leading playoffs that we have where everybody is contributing to the loss but they always playing the quarterback..​
I see lots of games where the quarterback gets bailed out by his team but gets credit for the win but in Dallas it just seems like they blame the quarterback for everything even though there is very very large amounts of information and facts to support the fact that there were players on the team that created a tough situation for the quarterback to play in....​
I'll never understand it I guess you have to watch enough football and not hate a player as much to see reality and you see it all over the NFL the quarterback get bailed out in games because the teams coming into the playoffs were better prepared they were better overall they made more plays 'cause you got guys like Eli Manning winning 2 Super Bowls despite him having a 500 record for his career and for leading the league and interceptions three years and making a lot of mistakes that were covered up but that is how teams get to the championship games and get to the Super bowl and win Super Bowls because the teams themselves found ways to cover up the deficiencies as a team they didn't give up and blame the quarterback they didn't come in the next half and go well the quarterback through 2 interceptions in the first half so we're going to quit we're not going to play well.... I've seen this with our own team I've seen Troy Aikman in the Super bowl we were down to the Buffalo Bills because he threw an interception he was having a bad game I believe we were down 10 points and in the second-half what happens the defense gets a turnover they score they start running the ball downhill they take the pressure off the quarterback and win that game that is how most games happen most of the time it takes the entire team to win the big games..​
Come out of this place mistakes some of the quarterbacks who have the rings around here like Troy and Roger as if they carried the team they never mentioned the offensive line and Tony Dorsett and Emmett Smith and the great defenses and the great coaching Staffs they they forget they forget that they threw interceptions in those games.... I mean in some sense, if you look at it Danny white and Eli Manning are pretty much the same player except Eli Manning has two Super Bowl wins...​
No, Mahomes does it because he can produce without your Tyreek Hills and O-line (indeed he works better on the roll out of the pocket). The problem with Dak is that he doesn't have that USP and needs toi much....when he has a lead and teams can't play to the Blueprint he's excellent, but that just needs to much (both sides of the ball), especially when his CAP is over 17%.
 

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You Marathon every Dak argument. You show me where you've blamed Dak (more than a one line throw away, followed by paragraphs on overriding issues).
The Romo perspective is a less than subtle take that those against Dak are pre-Romo.
We all agree it's Jerry, but Dak demanding the year element of the contract and NTC is a contributory factor on the issues in the next couple of years.
So now it's that I haven't blamed Dak enough....now ti has to be more than "one line throw away" and "paragraphs" of issues.

It's not my job to prove YOUR statement is true or false. What are we doing here? You made the claim you clearly saw me say it so use the search again and show me.....you can't. And you know you can't which is why you're now using guidelines and you still can't even do that.

It is what it is. I'm not afraid to show my fandom on this site. Even having it used against me one very argument I make I still am a Dak fan. So if you want me to disprove that? No need. I support the guy just like I do every other Cowboy. If that's "marathoning" it so be it.

What I won't do is sit here and ignore the damage Jerry has done to this franchise since the 90's post SB era.

Dak's contract and NTC is irrelevant to our issues. In order to understand what our issues go and see what true contenders are doing and look at what we are doing.
 

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So now it's that I haven't blamed Dak enough....now ti has to be more than "one line throw away" and "paragraphs" of issues.

It's not my job to prove YOUR statement is true or false. What are we doing here? You made the claim you clearly saw me say it so use the search again and show me.....you can't. And you know you can't which is why you're now using guidelines and you still can't even do that.

It is what it is. I'm not afraid to show my fandom on this site. Even having it used against me one very argument I make I still am a Dak fan. So if you want me to disprove that? No need. I support the guy just like I do every other Cowboy. If that's "marathoning" it so be it.

What I won't do is sit here and ignore the damage Jerry has done to this franchise since the 90's post SB era.

Dak's contract and NTC is irrelevant to our issues. In order to understand what our issues go and see what true contenders are doing and look at what we are doing.
Overpaying QB's, in this desperate search for a Franchise QB, is NOT what teams are doing.
Indeed, the opposite is true, if you don't have an elite QB, go rookie or cheap.
We did that in 2023 (we can argue that we should of traded for Henry, but that would mean rebuild in 2024 -without a 1st Rd pick), but 2023 was as All-In as we've been.
The contract is a killer, blame Jerry for giving it (obviously Jerry is to blame), but Dak has a responsibility due to the length of contract (his decision) and the protection of the NTC.
Dak could of agreed to what Broaddus called the career ending contract, which would of spread the contract hits....the way it's panned out there's a real chance he's cut as a Post-June cut in 2026....which negates any considerable restructuring in 2025.
 

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Overpaying QB's, in this desperate search for a Franchise QB, is NOT what teams are doing.
Indeed, the opposite is true, if you don't have an elite QB, go rookie or cheap.
We did that in 2023 (we can argue that we should of traded for Henry, but that would mean rebuild in 2024 -without a 1st Rd pick), but 2023 was as All-In as we've been.
The contract is a killer, blame Jerry for giving it (obviously Jerry is to blame), but Dak has a responsibility due to the length of contract (his decision) and the protection of the NTC.
Dak could of agreed to what Broaddus called the career ending contract, which would of spread the contract hits....the way it's panned out there's a real chance he's cut as a Post-June cut in 2026....which negates any considerable restructuring in 2025.
Oh they for sure are doing it. Eagles overpaid Hurts after one good year. Packers overpaid Love after one good year. Lions overpaid Goff.....

It's what teams do and it's what owners do. They overpay. And the teams that went cheap? Like the Viking with Darnold? Guess who's going to be the highest paid quarterback this offseason? Sam Darnold. Geno and Baker also got paid after being cheap. And are highly overpaid now.

They don't use it as a detriment or an excuse to not build their team.

The contract isn't a killer. This is an excuse this front office has sold you. The Cowboys are operating like it's 2004 in how they structure deals. Meanwhile teams like the Rams and Eagles find a way. Because that's what you do when you care about winning. You FIND A WAY.
 

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Well, that's about as biased, selective memory, and cherry picking as I have seen here.

Overweight? What was his weight? I remember people like yiu making fun when he was in a flak.

Romo treated like staubach? Dude come on. He gets as much hate as dak and you're proof.

We'll just disagree on almost all of that i guess. Nobody changes there minds on anything these days regardless of facts (like his pretty good career stats for example)
Happy to disagree on this one. I respect your opinions.
 
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