Dak is not my QB

[Runwildboys]

A QB either helps you win big games or he helps cause a loss.
The players believe Dak is part of the problem.
The are believing Rush can help win.
It's not about touchdowns, it about 3rd and 6, one QB makes the difficult throw for a 1st.
One QB settles for a 2 yd dump off and heads for the sidelines, looks just as good in the stats right?
The problem being the players watch tape and see throws there that Dak refuses to squeeze in, Rush makes the throw.
Does Rush have enough arm to beat a good defense? Likely not, but Dak gives you no shot.
FIND ME A DAMN QB, TIRED OF THE SAME MOVIE.

Serious question: If the players think Dak can't win, but Rush can, why do they feel the need to play harder for Rush?

 

[acr731]

Serious question: If the players think Dak can't win, but Rush can, why do they feel the need to play harder for Rush?

I think you have to look at who is playing versus who, most of the starters, is not playing. You're seeing 2nd, 3rd, and practice squad players who want to make a name for themselves. Many of the starters have already gotten their pay days and its easy for them to fold up their tents and quit when things aren't going good. CeeDee is the only one still fighting, and I have lot of respect for him because of it.

So I really don't think anyone is playing harder for one QB or the other, the players still on the field are just taking advantage of an opportunity they probably wouldn't get under more ideal situations, and they're busting their butts. This season has looked a lot like an extended pre season where most of the starters wouldn't have been playing anyway.

There's nothing magical that MM is doing to motivate the players, it's nothing more than a group of players taking advantage of an opportunity and they have been unexpectedly successful. Sure, it's been against equal or lesser competition, but so what, they're playing hard and that's what matters.

 

[G2]

 

[Runwildboys]

I think you have to look at who is playing versus who, most of the starters, is not playing. You're seeing 2nd, 3rd, and practice squad players who want to make a name for themselves. Many of the starters have already gotten their pay days and its easy for them to fold up their tents and quit when things aren't going good. CeeDee is the only one still fighting, and I have lot of respect for him because of it.

So I really don't think anyone is playing harder for one QB or the other, the players still on the field are just taking advantage of an opportunity they probably wouldn't get under more ideal situations, and they're busting their butts. This season has looked a lot like an extended pre season where most of the starters wouldn't have been playing anyway.

There's nothing magical that MM is doing to motivate the players, it's nothing more than a group of players taking advantage of an opportunity and they have been unexpectedly successful. Sure, it's been against equal or lesser competition, but so what, they're playing hard and that's what matters.

There are plenty of vets playing, but that's beside the point. People keep saying the guys are playing harder for Rush, and some are saying they're doing it because Rush is better, or they have more respect for Rush, or whatever. I'm just trying to point out the flaw in that logic.

I agree with you, that the guys who are now getting their first opportunities to play are making the most of it, and trying to get noticed.

 

[Vtwin]

This board needs a Soap Opera. The Young & The Restless ain't cutting it. Netflix documentary coming soon.

This made me laugh. As I was reading your earlier posts about Romo I chuckled and thought Cmac must love watching Entertainment Tonight and all the Soap Operas. He is eating all that 'he said she said' garbage right up. It can be a an awfully fine line between sarcasm and hypocrisy.

 

[Pantone282C]

Even at Christmas time but tossing Terrell Owens into the bickering is an odd twist.

very nicely done.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I love that we're winning since I'm a Cowboys fan. But let's test your theory that the team is playing harder for Cooper. Dak owns Philthy. If Cooper gets blown out again by them, what are you going to say then?

Let's be real and fair. Dak is criticized for beating up on weaker teams. The only impressive win this year led by Cooper was the Bucs game. Beating up on two of the worst teams in the NFL and beating an overrated team, wasn't impressive at all. Do you know how many wins the Bucs have against winning teams this year?

So you wanna crucify him for playing who's on the schedule? Weird.

Let's be real and fair. Coop is doing the same thing Dak does.

 

[G2]

There are plenty of vets playing, but that's beside the point. People keep saying the guys are playing harder for Rush, and some are saying they're doing it because Rush is better, or they have more respect for Rush, or whatever. I'm just trying to point out the flaw in that logic.

I agree with you, that the guys who are now getting their first opportunities to play are making the most of it, and trying to get noticed.

I don't understand why there's THIS much talk about it, I mean the team is still playing hard. That's all I want as a fan. Rush will never be in the MVP conversation, end of story.
Can't we just be hopeful he plays great without trashing another player who's out for the season.
The defense was like watching a bunch of sharks in a frenzy. Aubrey put up 12 points! Other than draft position, things could be WAY worse. We're lucky to have a solid back up.

 

[Whirlwin]

Get a room

They have one

 

[BoysForLife]

lol. I can guarantee Rockport did not do any such thing.

I wish I could like this more than once......

 

[McKDaddy]

See this for QB X......I dare not say his name, that would cause a riot on here. I hoped and rooted for QB X.

2007 - (one and done) - This team had 12 record pro-bowlers on the team
2009 (1-1)
2014 (1-1) All-pro- first team three linemen, all pro-first squad running back, Pro Bowl tight end, and all pro-first team wide receiver

Notice the gaps....includes the 8-8 years and final game losses to get in the playoffs, three consecutive years in which each NFC East opponent sent us home.

Just be careful or perhaps truthful, with the comparisons.

They didn't generally lose games because of Tony. They won games because of Tony. It takes a team effort & a little luck to win games against good opponents in the NFL. Many of those "Pro Bowlers" failed to do their job at that level in those years. Tony could make really high level plays to cover up a lot of the teams warts.

Is it all Dak's fault we have failed so many times against quality opponents? No. Did he almost always make significant contributions to the failures? Yes. Did he play at a high level in those games? No. Maybe there is an exception but vast majority of the time, no.

 

[Whirlwin]

No tears shed like T.O. The team battles hard for Cooper Rush. Dak has always been a company man and a phony just interested in getting paid. Bravo Dak. Phony.

I don’t like either quarterback. The team is playing with heart. It’s just a different squad. A different scheme. They’re playing not to make mistakes, I would not want a whole season of that attitude. Sometimes you have to go out there and try and win it. Cooper Rush sucks as an NFL quarterback, he’s a back up clearly nothing more.

 

[Cmac]

This made me laugh. As I was reading your earlier posts about Romo I chuckled and thought Cmac must love watching Entertainment Tonight and all the Soap Operas. He is eating all that 'he said she said' garbage right up. It can be a an awfully fine line between sarcasm and hypocrisy.

Vtwin.....I just shake the leaves now and then. No harm to my game. I try to lean on facts. I've been accused as a Dak lover, when I'm actually just a Cowboy fan. Contrary to many, I liked Romo too. Just got called out as Tad Prescott.....and that was funny. I don't place disappointments on just one player or praise just one for the good times......it's the team and how games play out in totality that I observe and bring comments.

The most irritating to some on here is "I'm a supporter of players getting their money." I just don't start reevaluating so quickly on promise/expectation while immediately dismissing the earned part and market value.....that's for the next contract. I don't lose my mind over that. Feel bad for players like Overshown and Tank Dell recently.......may never get money that matched their play and promise.

I do like crime shows, so maybe the pursuit of facts bring out the pursuit for objectivity. Actually, I don't like Soap Operas, just the one called our Dallas Cowboys. Sometimes it's like a mob on here. I stand by...."You will never tell me it's a racehorse, when all I see is a donkey." I'm guilty of some sarcasm for sure, but I stay away from hypocritical, but I'll own up to it, acknowledge, and correct if I'm wrong.

Most importantly........never personal and never any intent to straddle the forum rules. Merry Christmas to Cowboy zoners. All good.

 

[Cmac]

They didn't generally lose games because of Tony. They won games because of Tony. It takes a team effort & a little luck to win games against good opponents in the NFL. Many of those "Pro Bowlers" failed to do their job at that level in those years. Tony could make really high level plays to cover up a lot of the teams warts.

Is it all Dak's fault we have failed so many times against quality opponents? No. Did he almost always make significant contributions to the failures? Yes. Did he play at a high level in those games? No. Maybe there is an exception but vast majority of the time, no.

Relax McKDaddy.........that's fine. I liked Tony too. The effort to exonerate Tony is commendable, but actually Tony & Dak careers are parallel or similar......can I interest you in that, honestly? And no rings except one wedding band, and that's ok. Relax.

 

[Cmac]

I don’t like either quarterback. The team is playing with heart. It’s just a different squad. A different scheme. They’re playing not to make mistakes, I would not want a whole season of that attitude. Sometimes you have to go out there and try and win it. Cooper Rush sucks as an NFL quarterback, he’s a back up clearly nothing more.

Ok......to add a bit, we're definitely in "nothing to lose mode" now. Many on the field have an opportunity to prove themselves more.....the WRs (outside of Cee Dee), defensive guys, and OL guys. Even Cooper has a chance to get to the negotiating table for more worth. We're almost back in "preseason mode" to see who flashes on the screen, as keepers. I.E.....we're playing with nothing on the line now.....big difference....no pressure, other than future jobs here or elsewhere.

I can't understand the need for Cee Dee continuing to play......that scares me. Don't understand the Mingo treatment, other than he is not meshing with Cooper or his game.

And when the season ends........let's watch our Owner/GM. He shows his hand on a regular basis, but ends up like a "Used Car Salesman", more often than naught.

 

[acr731]

I don’t like either quarterback. The team is playing with heart. It’s just a different squad. A different scheme. They’re playing not to make mistakes, I would not want a whole season of that attitude. Sometimes you have to go out there and try and win it. Cooper Rush sucks as an NFL quarterback, he’s a back up clearly nothing more.

Yet he's doing better than Dak, and even Jerry has admitted as much. So go figure

 

[Whirlwin]

Ok......to add a bit, we're definitely in "nothing to lose mode" now. Many on the field have an opportunity to prove themselves more.....the WRs (outside of Cee Dee), defensive guys, and OL guys. Even Cooper has a chance to get to the negotiating table for more worth. We're almost back in "preseason mode" to see who flashes on the screen, as keepers. I.E.....we're playing with nothing on the line now.....big difference....no pressure, other than future jobs here or elsewhere.

I can't understand the need for Cee Dee continuing to play......that scares me. Don't understand the Mingo treatment, other than he is not meshing with Cooper or his game.

And when the season ends........let's watch our Owner/GM. He shows his hand on a regular basis, but ends up like a "Used Car Salesman", more often than naught.

I would love to know what there was talking about in the booth, Jerry looked nervous, anxious while Stephen and the other guy were pounding him left and right

 

[Runwildboys]

Yet he's doing better than Dak, and even Jerry has admitted as much. So go figure

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Rush has played an easier schedule than Dak did. That's not to say Dak didn't play like hot garbage, but I doubt Rush would have won any of the games Dak lost.

 

[McKDaddy]

Relax McKDaddy.........that's fine. I liked Tony too. The effort to exonerate Tony is commendable, but actually Tony & Dak careers are parallel or similar......can I interest you in that, honestly? And no rings except one wedding band, and that's ok. Relax.

I am very relaxed, thank you. And Merry Christmas to you.

Lumping them together as if they were equal & interchangeable is a false narrative. The years of evidence provides a solid, irrefutable basis that Tony was a better playmaker that elevated those around him. Dak has played long enough that it's clear what he is & isn't. It's no longer hypothetical. Your posts say they are the same because neither ultimately got us a ring. I'm simply saying each should be judged on the quality of their play.

Beside how they compare isn't relevant to current team status & going forward. All that matters currently is we don't have a QB that is good enough yet we are paying one as if they are. So, the team & fans of the team are without much hope for the foreseeable future.

 

[Cmac]

I am very relaxed, thank you. And Merry Christmas to you.

Lumping them together as if they were equal & interchangeable is a false narrative. The years of evidence provides a solid, irrefutable basis that Tony was a better playmaker that elevated those around him. Dak has played long enough that it's clear what he is & isn't. It's no longer hypothetical. Your posts say they are the same because neither ultimately got us a ring. I'm simply saying each should be judged on the quality of their play.

Beside how they compare isn't relevant to current team status & going forward. All that matters currently is we don't have a QB that is good enough yet we are paying one as if they are. So, the team & fans of the team are without much hope for the foreseeable future.

You're entitled to your opinion.....no problem. The ringless isn't the only comparison. Look it up, not trying to convince you, you're already sold on your belief. As for the quality & results of play......look it up. It's ok if you want the scales slanted.

If Dak tossed 5 interceptions in a game and we won.......he'd be crucified on this board. QB X did that in 2007.

And I see.....it's really back to the pay that's irritating. I got it. Keep posting.