Dak is not the guy

Gangsta Spanksta said:
You know. Maybe you should learn the definition of what a cult is, first. The original premise of the thread is, is Dak the guy. He's played enough seasons to form an opinion on whether he is the guy or not. Yes we know about Jerry as the GM, and deficiencies of the team, but that doesn't change that people have a right to form their own opinions on whether this team can win in the playoffs with who the current player is, given age, decline in talent that come thereof, the decline of talent of the supporting cast, and the effects of injuries on his body. Some of us been pointing out since at least 2018 that Dak like any other quarterback won't always have the most talented team around him. A quarterback plays with what he is given. I also always says my main thing is I hate all the excuses people make, and the throwing under the bus of other Cowboys to prop ones idol up.
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maybe you should learn to read first. the Title of the post is "Dak is not the guy", so you trying to change it to a questions is just too funny.

and I never said people aren't entitled to their opinions. but as you said, I have the right to disagree with their OPINIONs.

and I have said it multiple times and argued why it would be best for cowboys and Dak to walk away from each other, but Jerry hands him a huge contract. I am not a fan or hater of Dak, like some (you?). but this BS that if I 100% don't agree with you or anyone who doesn't like that makes me a Fanboy is just childish and utterly stupid.

yes, a QB plays with what he is given. but then the results vary based on what he is given. a QB alone can not lift a team, specially on a team like the "soap opera" cowboys. there is very few QBs that can truly lift the team around them, and Mahomes being one of them couldn't do it by himself when he got trounced in superbowl twice.

and dak is not my idol, that's what makes you be part of a cult, hate dak cult because I didn't criticize dak incessently and no where in any of my comments I defended dak, but to you, again because I didn't criticize, you read as defending.
 
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SteveTheCowboy said:
Did I *SAY* I want them to build form scratch? No...here take these back...:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I don't trust them to rebuild any more than I trust them with Dak and Micahs contracts. Or any other aspect of the team.

That's the point...not sure what is so hard to get. It might be out of your league. And it's not something to easily fight about...so...not in your league.

I'm neither for or against trading anybody. I am asking what does it matter? What difference does any of it make unless Jerry...or a new own...can put a complete team together.
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We all know Jerry and Stephen are useless and holding the team back.

That's even MORE of a reason to pay the good players they got lucky enough to hit on.

If they were lucky to find a QB as good as Romo or Dak, and have totally failed at finding a QB in every other instance... then why would they get rid of a good QB unless they have an upgrade available?

Just pay market value to your stars and stop creating headlines. That's it.

I'd rather go 11-6 and get into the playoffs where you at least have a prayer, than go 5-12 and completely suck for the foreseeable future.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
maybe you should learn to read first. the Title of the post is "Dak is not the guy", so you trying to change it to a questions is just too funny.

and I never said people aren't entitled to their opinions. but as you said, I have the right to disagree with their OPINIONs.

and I have said it multiple times and argued why it would be best for cowboys and Dak to walk away from each other, but Jerry hands him a huge contract. I am not a fan or hater of Dak, like some (you?). but this BS that if I 100% don't agree with you or anyone who doesn't like that makes me a Fanboy is just childish and utterly stupid.

yes, a QB plays with what he is given. but then the results vary based on what he is given. a QB alone can not lift a team, specially on a team like the "soap opera" cowboys. there is very few QBs that can truly lift the team around them, and Mahomes being one of them couldn't do it by himself when he got trounced in superbowl twice.

and dak is not my idol, that's what makes you be part of a cult, hate dak cult because I didn't criticize dak incessently and no where in any of my comments I defended dak, but to you, again because I didn't criticize, you read as defending.
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Cults usually worship someone or something. You trying to turn a person not worshiping someone into being a cult, yet I hardly see you on the propaganda threads objecting there. So if the title is Dak is not the guy, if it is a debate, then the premise would still be whether or not that he is. People still have a right to express their opinion on it. What drew you to this thread, if you don't like the subject matter or feel that it is expressed too often? Quarterback is the most important position there is, so hence you get more threads about the QB.
 
Nav22 said:
We all know Jerry and Stephen are useless and holding the team back.

That's even MORE of a reason to pay the good players they got lucky enough to hit on.

If they were lucky to find a QB as good as Romo or Dak, and have totally failed at finding a QB in every other instance... then why would they get rid of a good QB unless they have an upgrade available?

Just pay market value to your stars and stop creating headlines. That's it.

I'd rather go 11-6 and get into the playoffs where you at least have a prayer, than go 5-12 and completely suck for the foreseeable future.
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Better draft position?

And "have a prayer"? That's what we take into the playoffs? No wonder.
 
Gangsta Spanksta said:
Cults usually worship someone or something. You trying to turn a person not worshiping someone into being a cult, yet I hardly see you on the propaganda threads objecting there. So if the title is Dak is not the guy, if it is a debate, then the premise would still be whether or not that he is. People still have a right to express their opinion on it. What drew you to this thread, if you don't like the subject matter or feel that it is expressed too often? Quarterback is the most important position there is, so hence you get more threads about the QB.
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you only took one single defintion of cult. a cult can have a devotion to an idea, object or a movement!!! The Hate Dak Cult, thrives on the idea of hating on dak 24x7 and going on attack against anyone who doesn't 100% agree with them. labeling, name calling, and for some personal attacks. you have acted to the definition of a cult member. I didn't 100% agree with everything that was said, or pointed to something different and "labeling" was the first reaction from not just you, but other cult members going on the attack. I didn't dump on him and 100% agree with your opinions and I am suddently a "fanboy".

I do like the subject matter. you mentioned that the thread was a question, yet the title clearly, without a doub is a statement. "dak is not the guy". so I made comments not defending Dak, but questioning some of the premise it was based on some of the made up exagerated non-facts stated by a few and there was immediate reaction being called a "fanboy".

I never said QB position wasn't the most important position. point me to me saying anything that would insinuate that. in fact on multiple occasions I said, Dak and Cowboys should have walked away from each other. and even your response here proves the cult mentality and what I have said repeatedly. you are arguing because I didn't 100% agree with you and didn't dump on Dak 100%, 365x24x60x60. so now you are trying to come up with the premise and argue that QB is the most important position and therefore Dak sucks, hence more threads about Dak. but its like a 10 to 1 ratio. everything said on this very thread had been repeated 100,000 times already, just over this past off season. yet the cult keeps going back and repeating the same thing.

nothing drew me to this thread. I can choose to ignore and I can choose to respond. its an open forum. what you are trying to do is tell me to stay away if I disagree so you can have your echo chamber for the cult. if you want an echo chamber, then create your own forum and have at it. you don't need to force your opinions on everybody else. again, defintion and actions of a cult, as they try to force everyone to their view of the world.
 
Jerry didn't find Romo, that was purely Sean Payton, who lobbied heavily for the guy who broke his E. Illinois passing records... And the only reason Romo signed as an undrafted free agent, despite other offers, was because of Payton.

Dak was always a projected mid-round QB pick, maybe even earlier if not for the drink driving incident. As a backup QB, he would have fulfilled his role really well.
 
TwistedL0g1k said:
Fired by the Eagles after the 2012 season.

Went to KC with a good defense and elite QB, and now he's a genius!
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Also there were rumors Reid was on his way out in KC. Then they drafted Mahomes, and his job was saved.
 
khiladi said:
Jerry didn't find Romo, that was purely Sean Payton, who lobbied heavily for the guy who broke his E. Illinois passing records... And the only reason Romo signed as an undrafted free agent, despite other offers, was because of Payton.
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And even at that, Romo may have been on the chopping block (that was the consensus from the local media), until Quincey failed his drug test, and eventually he was cut.
 
CowboyFrog said:
Without the FO changes they didnt win even with drafting high QB's, Washington wont win if that defense doesnt improve no matter what Daniels does....Mahomes is great but without a team he cant win either...
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When you get a guy like Mahomes, your whole direction and risk taking as a FO changes...
 
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