Dak led league in "tight window throws" and why this led to league high interceptions

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Cowboys were bottom part of the league in 3rd and long situations. Which was caused featuring a has been slow back like zeke.

Most of daks picks were on 3rd and long.
So Dak”s bad play was Zeke”s fault. :facepalm:
wow this is a new stretch. :lmao: Comical.

Dak is just not as good as you think he is. He played horrible and cost us the GB and Jacksonville games, that cost us HFA and a trip to the NFCCG. Because of his 2 horrible INT’s as well missing other passes.
 

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I've been saying for years this is a nonsense stat. All it asks is if a guy is within a yard at the catch. Bad throws literally create tight windows by that definition- WR has separation but slows down to catch a pass allowing the defender to close.

The only people I ever see touting this stat are Dak lovers. The fact that late reads and poor throws actually increase this stat's numbers seems to fly over their heads.
 

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So Dak”s bad play was Zeke”s fault. :facepalm:
wow this is a new stretch. :lmao: Comical.

Dak is just not as good as you think he is. He played horrible and cost us the GB and Jacksonville games, that cost us HFA and a trip to the NFCCG. Because of his 2 horrible INT’s as well missing other passes.
Sorry, JC. Some of those GB and Jax INTs were on CeeDee running the wrong routes (or refusing to run across the deep middle in front of the Safety). Michael Irvin, Keyshawn Johnson, OchoCinco and a few other receivers all said CeeDee was responsible for those INTs. Those were timing passes that CeeDee turned into INTs due to his route running decision.
 

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Sorry, JC. Some of those GB and Jax INTs were on CeeDee running the wrong routes (or refusing to run across the deep middle in front of the Safety). Michael Irvin, Keyshawn Johnson, OchoCinco and a few other receivers all said CeeDee was responsible for those INTs. Those were timing passes that CeeDee turned into INTs due to his route running decision.
Possibly so. However, Dak didn’t have to throw the pass. It wasn’t necessarily timing passes as some say, as Moore rarely used those.

They were possibly just making excuses for Dak. As I remember crossing routes are not all timing plays, the QB throws to the open WR as he comes across. If he is not open, he looks to the next WR. They take time to develop as well.
A slant is more of a timing pass.
Yes CeeDee was part to blame on some of them, but not all of them.

I am not saying it is all Dak or the WR or Moore or a combination. Just offering a different perspective. As many will blame one or the other depending their objective.
 

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I hope he's even worse this season.

It appears to be clear that as long as he's good enough to get embarrassed in the playoffs then he's good enough to be on this roster.

Therefore it's time to hope he's so bad that the playoffs isn't even a question.

It's what'll be best for the Cowboys in the long run.
you actually said you want Dallas to be Bad and in the same paragraph you bash Dak.I guess you are not disguising yourself any longer...you just admited you are a Bash Dak over Dallas cult member...you are probably the cult leader. some here wish for Dak to be good so we make a run and go to championship game or make a run.

and you try to disguise under the guise of "its good for the long run"...that's you cover

embarassing. you are not a Cowboys fan.
 

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I've been saying for years this is a nonsense stat. All it asks is if a guy is within a yard at the catch. Bad throws literally create tight windows by that definition- WR has separation but slows down to catch a pass allowing the defender to close.

The only people I ever see touting this stat are Dak lovers. The fact that late reads and poor throws actually increase this stat's numbers seems to fly over their heads.
or bad throws could be long and away and it doesn't count. it goes both ways.

its the same way they measured everyone. but somehow for Dak its bad throws and we have these all world WRs like Noah brown that do acrobatics to make catches, like allowing the ball hit them in their hands and play volleyball!!!
 

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you actually said you want Dallas to be Bad and in the same paragraph you bash Dak.I guess you are not disguising yourself any longer...you just admited you are a Bash Dak over Dallas cult member...you are probably the cult leader. some here wish for Dak to be good so we make a run and go to championship game or make a run.

and you try to disguise under the guise of "its good for the long run"...that's you cover

embarassing. you are not a Cowboys fan.
If you notice on the weekends. You can tell if someone’s posting for him. I think his girlfriend is the one that likes the Cowboys.
 

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They were tight throws because of the lack of anticipation from the QB. Kurt Warner went over Dak's film, no need to blame the receivers for everything. I remember to specific throws from Dak against Niners when both Gallup and Lamb got several steps ahead of their defenders but Dak couldn't connect.
Ridiculous. Lack of anticipation. It’s cold timing. Kurt Warner Cowboys hater.
 

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This is an incomplete analysis. Give us the Top 5 in tight window throws. Top 10. Then let's see how their stats compare? For example, if the 2nd highest tight window passer only threw 3 interceptions, for example, then that puts context on Dak's numbers. Or if the 2nd and 3rd highest tight windows passers have similar stats/interceptions, that has value. Further, if Dak is far and away the highest tight window passer, that also provides context.

So let's see the data. All of it.
 

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Tight throws or not it’s his decision making. I’m sorry but the int before halftime of the 49ers playoff game was one of the worst plays of the year. Reason being was it was very poor situational throw. Forget that Moore called a pass play there…. Ultimately it’s on dak to make a decision.

2nd and 2 and he forces a throw? Not only forces it but gives the 49ers a chance to score points. (Which they did).

That was a huge momentum swing in that game. There are times to take chances and others there aren’t. He needed to be smarter and play situational football. He didn’t
 

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So Dak”s bad play was Zeke”s fault. :facepalm:
wow this is a new stretch. :lmao: Comical.

Dak is just not as good as you think he is. He played horrible and cost us the GB and Jacksonville games, that cost us HFA and a trip to the NFCCG. Because of his 2 horrible INT’s as well missing other passes.
I would say that zekes horrid running ability definitely contributed to some of the offensive problems. As did the poor oline play.

When pollard went down the game was over. Even you probably my knew that.

daks play was equally as bad. It was a full offensive team meltdown

fully expected against the #1 d in the nfl and the horrid Zeke as the only back.

do you think any team will take a flyer on a top 5 rb in the nfl? :muttley:
 
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Dak has something to prove. So do many QBs. He’s not Pat Mahomes (who is). He doesn’t deserve the vitriol throw his way here. He is our guy for the next 2 years. Is it wrong to root for him?
 

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If you notice on the weekends. You can tell if someone’s posting for him. I think his girlfriend is the one that likes the Cowboys.
he has several other ghost accounts he uses. its very obvious...writing style gives it away, sometimes he really tries hard and change, but that also becomes way too obvious.

perhaps what you say also makes sense. he doesn't even know football. he never ever, discusses anything actually football related. its all TMZ style. he has zero football specific items. at least Khiladi tries and can argue his point to an extent, but literally zero from this guy
 

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Tight throws or not it’s his decision making. I’m sorry but the int before halftime of the 49ers playoff game was one of the worst plays of the year. Reason being was it was very poor situational throw. Forget that Moore called a pass play there…. Ultimately it’s on dak to make a decision.

2nd and 2 and he forces a throw? Not only forces it but gives the 49ers a chance to score points. (Which they did).

That was a huge momentum swing in that game. There are times to take chances and others there aren’t. He needed to be smarter and play situational football. He didn’t
Huge momentum swing! Lol

what was the score at halftime? Do you think our kicker missing his 7th extra point in a row after our first TD was a momentum swinger?
 
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