Dak Prescott has built a relationship with Cowboys coaching staff

[AbeBeta]

I gotta say, you're not being fair here, Abe. And I'd be insulted by the insinuation, if I were the poster concerned.

I don't have a thing against Dak, for the record, though he's a middle-round pick that would need to be developed. The fact that he's improved each season is a good sign, and I'd be for him at the right pick. But in a conversation where we're talking about the consequences of potentially reaching for a player who's not ready to start in Dallas to take over for a long-time great who's career is winding down, especially in a thread where the implied premise is that we'd be over drafting the guy, Quincy Carter is a fairly natural comparison given his very public and fairly recent example in Dallas. I can easily see a poster make that comparison whether or not race has anything to do with it.

And, for the record, I don't think it says anything specifically about dwight whatsoever in that regard, unless I've missed something in any of his posts.

And while I'm at it, for everybody busting Quincy, the guy had substance issues. And he probably lacked a bit of that makeup in his character that would have helped him come out of the crucible of a starting NFL job in Dallas an even stronger person. But he really wasn't all that bad a football player by the time he was done. He worked hard at his game, threw a beautiful deep ball, and made decent strides under Parcels until he did himself in. It was foolish to put him in the position he was put in in the first place, but as developmental QBs go, he might have had a shot if we'd handled him properly and if he could have overcome his substance issues.

Again. Completely different players. Be offended if you like but the original comparison made no sense - save for the fact that Q was also a QB. Despite this, somehow Dak gets Q hate directed at him. The guys are nothing like each other. In fact, I'd venture that Dak's mindset is one that would have gone over well with Parcells. This kid clearly is very different from Q mentally. Physically, I think there is little comparison. Carter is the superior in that realm by a wide margin. Additionally, Carter was a bit more developed as a passer coming out. Dak runs way way more and relied on that.

So again. I can't see how Q is the go to comparison. Guys are nothing alike. Someone else posted the Tebow comparison. I'd say that's more reasonable - particularly in terms of development as a passer.

But really, when Tebow came out, he'd have been a great pick on day three. Just like Dak.

 

[Idgit]

Again. Completely different players. Be offended if you like but the original comparison made no sense - save for the fact that Q was also a QB. Despite this, somehow Dak gets Q hate directed at him. The guys are nothing like each other. In fact, I'd venture that Dak's mindset is one that would have gone over well with Parcells. This kid clearly is very different from Q mentally. Physically, I think there is little comparison. Carter is the superior in that realm by a wide margin. Additionally, Carter was a bit more developed as a passer coming out. Dak runs way way more and relied on that.

So again. I can't see how Q is the go to comparison. Guys are nothing alike. Someone else posted the Tebow comparison. I'd say that's more reasonable - particularly in terms of development as a passer.

But really, when Tebow came out, he'd have been a great pick on day three. Just like Dak.

I agree that the players are completely different.

It's the situation the team potentially has itself in again that's familiar. And the idea of filling that spot with an overreach on a player who rightly belongs as a mid round developmental pick makes people think of Quincey and the circus that surrounded his development attempt.

 

[AbeBeta]

I agree that the players are completely different.

It's the situation the team potentially has itself in again that's familiar. And the idea of filling that spot with an overreach on a player who rightly belongs as a mid round developmental pick makes people think of Quincey and the circus that surrounded his development attempt.

The only folks talking about over reaching are mock draft people. I see the kid as good day 3 pick - depending on who else on the board. If you want to develop a guy, the guy with smarts like Dak is a good angle.

I think it is pretty clear from the leaked boards that we've seen that we do not reach anymore. If we do "reach" it usually is a case where all the guys on our board for a certain round are already gone (like when we took Fred).

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

To be fair to Dak..... QC was drafted to early with the mind set he would be the starting QB his rookie year.

If they draft Dak it is to be groomed for down the road. And as much as I would like the top three... If they get a guy they really like and they think they can groom... Can't complain about it because that is better than what they have done in the past.

Now if Cook goes early, say Denver, and the boys panic and take Dak at 34... That would suck.

 

[Idgit]

The only folks talking about over reaching are mock draft people. I see the kid as good day 3 pick - depending on who else on the board. If you want to develop a guy, the guy with smarts like Dak is a good angle.

I think it is pretty clear from the leaked boards that we've seen that we do not reach anymore. If we do "reach" it usually is a case where all the guys on our board for a certain round are already gone (like when we took Fred).

That's where I see him, too. And I like him for us there, if we haven't added one of the very top prospects in the first. This whole thread was a reaction to an assumption that we'd reach or take somebody that couldn't be developed. Dak might have a lot of work to do for the pros, but that's ok if he's smart and willing to put in the effort. Tony hardly walked in a finished product.

 

[crashintonickdm]

First few commments bring the lolz

 

[Bigdog]

Wow. It is always fun to go back and see what was said and many of us were wrong. I would have love to get Wentz but am very happy we have Dak.