Dak Prescott Is 1 of 5 QBs In The Super Bowl Era To Go Winless In 3 Or More Divisional Round Games. Romo Was The Last QB

[KJJ]

100% Ive seen Great teams take a average QB to a championship..I have never seen a QB "Lift" a bad team to a championship ever.

If a QB is having to lift teams to victories, eventually it’s going to end in disaster. Just ask John Elway.

 

[Motorola]

Prescott threads spreading like California wildfires.
11 of 40 threads on the 1st page of Fan Zone are specifically about #4
--- almost 30% (July 10th, 1:45 EDT / 12:45 CDT)

 

[tyke1doe]

If a QB is having to lift teams to victories, eventually it’s going to end in disaster. Just ask John Elway.

But didn't Elway "lift" his teams to the Super Bowl?

 

[CowboyFrog]

But didn't Elway "lift" his teams to the Super Bowl?

yes and it ended in very lopsided defeats in the SB, when he had the #1 rushing attack and a top 3 defense he won the SB...

 

[KJJ]

But didn't Elway "lift" his teams to the Super Bowl?

That’s what I’m saying he lifted his teams to the Super Bowl and it led to disaster. He was never able to get them over the hump until he had a complete team with a running game.

 

[tyke1doe]

That’s what I’m saying he lifted his teams to the Super Bowl and it led to disaster. He was never able to get them over the hump until he had a complete team with a running game.

Gotcha. I'm just trying to distinguish your comments and position from those who act like every quarterback needs help, thus implying there's no difference between quarterbacks.
And that's true, but some need more help than others.
Mahomes needs help, but Dak needs more. (This is not a Dak-bashing statement. Just trying to illustrate my point.)

 

[tyke1doe]

yes and it ended in very lopsided defeats in the SB, when he had the #1 rushing attack and a top 3 defense he won the SB...

Right. But my point is some quarterbacks need more help than others. Sometimes, posters make such statements to minimize the eliteness of certain quarterbacks over more average quarterbacks, hence these insane comparisons between Mahomes and Dak.
No quarterback can win a game by himself. But no one in his right mind (except for his relatives) would take Dak over Mahomes because the latter is simply a better quarterback than the former and gives his team certain advantages that compensate for not having a stacked team around him.

 

[nalam]

Of the three games Dak played I would only blame him for the game last season against the 49ers. The defense blew both the Rams and Packers games. You could blame Romo for the Giants game because Eli clearly out played him but Minnesota was a better overall team and the Dez caught it game was ridiculous.

Those Giants D line were consistent and good in generating pass rush with front 4 ( Osi, Strahan and Tuck ) you know they went on to beat GOAT and spoiled the perfect season for pats.

Minnesota , had the immovable Williams bros in the middle and attack dogs in Jared A and ? Romo was running for his life in that divisional game.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Gotcha. I'm just trying to distinguish your comments and position from those who act like every quarterback needs help, thus implying there's no difference between quarterbacks.
And that's true, but some need more help than others.
Mahomes needs help, but Dak needs more. (This is not a Dak-bashing statement. Just trying to illustrate my point.)

Absolutely no one (on either side of the Dak debate) is saying there is no difference between qbs. If that were the case it wouldnt be a reason to argue about moving on from Dak or not if the new qb would be just as good.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Prescott threads spreading like California wildfires.
11 of 40 threads on the 1st page of Fan Zone are specifically about #4
--- almost 30% (July 10th, 1:45 EDT / 12:45 CDT)

oh and we are not done. there is another 437 before camp starts and another 492 during camp and pre-season. there will be those who will keep statistics of practice throws and QBR

 

[MyFairLady]

Meh when you make all the money **** the bed in the playoffs scoring 12 points going head to head against Brock Purdy it is basically your fault.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Meh when you make all the money **** the bed in the playoffs scoring 12 points going head to head against Brock Purdy it is basically your fault.

If he played just average we win.

 

[tyke1doe]

Absolutely no one (on either side of the Dak debate) is saying there is no difference between qbs. If that were the case it wouldnt be a reason to argue about moving on from Dak or not if the new qb would be just as good.

The comparisons have been offered repeatedly when arguing Dak's worth as an "elite" (or top) quarterback. And the only reason it is offered is because someone is trying to make the argument that Dak is doing just as well with Dallas as Mahomes is doing with KC.

Why just last week someone offered a stat that Dallas' offense ranked near KC's offense in efficiency the past two seasons, IIRC.

What other reasons would there be to offer such stats?

The implication is Dak is doing as well as Mahome is. Maybe they don't come out and say it, but my momma didn't teach me to think yellow rain when someone is pissing on my shoes.

We know why posters offer these comparisons.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I’ve actually looked into this. There was an article put out a while back that something like 80 percent of first round QBs bust or just aren’t that good lol. For every burrow there’s 10 Josh rosens.

That also shouldn’t mean you never draft one. Jerry’s strategy of not spending a first round pick on a QB since Aikman is actually insane. If we have a bad year whether it’s injury or just bad in general, and we’re within striking distance of Drake Maye they need to do everything possible to get him.

Right.... so thank you.

So the next number we need....not necessarily from you...LOL?

Is how many undrafted FAs and low round draft QB actually get to play for any length of time. NOW we are starting to better understand of the numbers.

Every draft is a risk. 4 of 5 1st round picks are "busts". How many low round or UDFA's even get to PLAY. How many would be considered "busts"?

If there are very few...then these low round/UDFA even doing THIS much...is quite an accomplishment!

As I said...this exercise is a very lazy way to present a case...so thank you for your contribution.

And yes....it doesn't mean don't try in higher rounds. It seems we been "getting by" just enough Jerry doesn;t wanna do it. He wants his pets to show how brilliant he is.

But you gotta draft sooner or later, right?

 

[MyFairLady]

80% of first round QBs may be a bust but the other 20% (minus a few exceptions) are basically the ones that play in the conference championship games every year.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Meh when you make all the money **** the bed in the playoffs scoring 12 points going head to head against Brock Purdy it is basically your fault.

lol yes it was Brock Purdy who held him to 12 points..lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

80% of first round QBs may be a bust but the other 20% (minus a few exceptions) are basically the ones that play in the conference championship games every year.

Your numbers are out of whack…..it’s far less than 20 percent. Just last Purdy and Hurts were in the conference championship.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

lol yes it was Brock Purdy who held him to 12 points..lol

The same Brock Purdy who had 0 tds too lol.

 

[Toro9]

We;;, now you're armed with real data, so you can contest such foolish, low info claims.

• He has one the highest "clutch" ratings in NFL history. So polar opposite in reality.
• On a per-game basis, he's 2nd all-time in 4th quarter comeback wins and game-winning drives.
• His 4th qtr rating is also one of the highest all time.

Go forth with knowledge...

Yeah

 

[CowboyFrog]

The same Brock Purdy who had 0 tds too lol.

I mean was it head to head I missed the tennis match they had... did you see this match, I need a recap..lol