Dak Prescott Is 1 of 5 QBs In The Super Bowl Era To Go Winless In 3 Or More Divisional Round Games. Romo Was The Last QB

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MountaineerCowboy said:
You’re only as good as your QB.

Why can’t the 49ers get over that hump when they’re elite almost everywhere?

How much did defense matter in that 42-30 Super Bowl last year?

Dak/Romo fans like to downplay the importance of the QB too much.
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same reason the bills and bengals can't get over the hump. sometimes there's just someone better, or the ball bounces just so. you are way too obsessed with "dak over dallas" type nonsense if someone doesn't agree with you wholly.
 

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KJJ said:
So our last two QBs have gone winless in divisional round games. You have to ask yourselves is it the QBs or the teams we’ve had? I say it’s more the teams than the QBs. Neither Romo or Dak had a complete team around them. We’ve always had a deficiency that could be exploited in the playoffs, which has put the games on the shoulders of our QBs. Romo wasn’t good enough to carry us in a playoff game and neither is Dak.
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i think its both. we don't have a team that can succeed. we have had huge holes and weaknesses on the team that have been exploited by better teams in the playoffs. most fans here, can't wrap their head around a Team concept and thus their only thought is needing a Elite QB to help us win. Given last time we did it was with Aikman, it gives them stronger feeling that is the case. in past 20+ years, about a 1/3 of the team in superbowl didn't have elite QB.
 

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KJJ said:
It’s just par for the course here. Mahomes looked terrible in the Super Bowl a few years ago against Tampa, when his team was over matched. I truly believe that every team the Cowboys lost to in the divisional rounds with Romo and Dak had the better teams. Even the 07 Giants were better than the Cowboys at the time we played them. They got better by the end of the season and we didn’t. Eli only had to pass for just over 100 yards. Jared Goff only passed for 186 yards against us in the divisional round. Dak outplayed him, but our defense got gashed for over 200 yards on the ground. Even a statue like Goff was able to scramble for a key first down late in the game. Not saying some of it hasn’t been on our QBs, but it hasn’t all been on them. Not by a long shot!
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the notion that elite QBs jump over empire state building in one bounce, stop speeding trains and lift mountains is just that. a fantasy. all QBs need support and good team around them. its just that they can over come some short comings of the team and make more plays than non-elite QBs and make things happen when given good resources. would an Elite QB do better with our team? absolutely. so find me one. the fact that there is only about 6 of them in the past 20 years tells you how hard it is to find one.
 

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Cowboys5217 said:
The Cowboys made it to the Super Bowl with Craig Morton and lost. The next season they made the switch to Staubach and won Super Bowl six.

The notion that Dak is too good to dump isn't supported by the Cowboys' own history.
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totally agree. is Rush our Staubach? the fact is that there was a Staubach on the team and reason he was on the bench was he served two years in Navy before joining the league. Staubach was a heisman winner
 

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DallasEast said:
Patrick Mahomes was drafted in 2017 and Joe Burrow was picked in 2020. 80 quarterbacks have been drafted from 2017 to present.

There was a 2.5% chance of landing an elite quarterback via the draft under those circumstances using those criteria. If the draft was narrowed to only the first round, the percentage would rise to just over 8% from that same timeframe.

Draft wise? It is kinda hard to draft an elite quarterback.
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Burrow was the #1 overall pick. you have to suck really bad to get that top pick. or trade everything you got to get there and then you have nothing to help him and talent will be depleted.

and everyone is got a crystal ball. hey mahomes. we just need to go get one. people forget there was a lot of question about Mahomes before the draft. at the time people called KC having reached and risked a lot. Turbiskey was rated higher than Mahomes. by the same token, Dallas wanted to Draft Manziel and Jerry wanted to trade up and get Lynch in the first round.

but if we all had a crystal ball it would be great. if anyone has it, please share
 

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phildadon86 said:
What’s funny is I called out the OP for talking about outliers when he uses Daks outlier interception season to make a judgment on him being an interception machine. I’m off the Dak wagon but my god I’m not going to make up things to prove a point.
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its called a goal post on wheels. just move it when you need to
 

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rnr_honeybadger said:
What exactly is the proof that the website has gone “downhill?” Do you have any metrics to back that up? Mods, do you want to chime in with some information? Also this is a forum, it’s an avenue where opinions are posted and having differing opinions means more traffic for a site. The last thing you want is for this place to become a tumblr style echo chamber
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you are on here. right? need more proof

:) :grin:
 

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rnr_honeybadger said:
Yep, a forum where you have nothing but positive Dak love 24/7. Evidently to him that is not an echo chamber. Reminds me of those modern day college kids screaming for a safe space on a college campus, literally a place where intellectual ideas should be shared and voiced.
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yep, a forum where you have nothing but bash dak 24/7 (see this thread and 180 other ones just like it).
 
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MountaineerCowboy said:
You’re only as good as your QB.

Why can’t the 49ers get over that hump when they’re elite almost everywhere?

How much did defense matter in that 42-30 Super Bowl last year?

Dak/Romo fans like to downplay the importance of the QB too much.
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This right here shows where you are wrong. It is not entirely dependent on the QB. Marino was one QB where he was as elite as you can get at QB, but he didn't have the team around him to win a SB. Trent Dilfer, on the other hand, had the Ravens' defence who basically gave him a SB as long as he scored 13 points or more a game. So, while the QB is important, the QB is not the end all be all. You have 52 other players on the team. The correct way to look at it is that your team is only as good as it's weakest link. Our run defence when Hankins went down, our lack of weapons aside from Lamb and a few TEs, and our kicking game, especially in the playoffs, were what killed us. Look at the team that either went as far as we did or beyond. They all had tons of weapons. The 49ers receiving core needs no introduction. The Eagles have DeVonte Smith and AJ Brown on each side, and a ton of talent inside too. The Bengals WRs are insanely good, starting with Chase, Boyd, and Higgins. The Chiefs had Schuster, Valdez-Scantling, and Toney, who turns out is a good WR (along with TE Kelce of course).

Meanwhile, when you look at the Cowboys WRs and TEs last year, we had Lamb, Gallup coming off a late season ACL (which means he was no where near his best), and some decent tight ends, and a bunch of no names/JAGS like Noah Brown. That's the difference between us and the others. When you look at Dak's interceptions, watch how many times the WRs either ran the wrong route or had the ball bounce off their hands into the DBs. The pick 6 against JAX is an example. Dak threw a perfect ball to Noah Brown, who bobbled it right into the hands of the DB. Then, if you look at the pick in the endzone against Green Bay, you'll notice that Lamb and Schultz were in exactly the same spot. That can't happen on routes, which means one of them messed up the route. When that happens, you can expect an interception. Finally, when you look at the Titans game, Hendershot just about handed the ball to the Titans DB on the interception. Dak couldn't have thrown that any better, and Hendershot completely botched it. It's a shame that interceptions only go as a QB stat because, when you watch what actually happens, there were about 8 that really should've been credited to the WR for either a poor route, poor effort on the ball, or completely dropped a perfect pass. That was why we didn't get the top 2 seeds. I understand that a QB can't expect to have elite WRs all over the place, but my gosh. Watch how poor the effort was by the WRs on at least 6-8 of the interceptions.

This is also why I'm excited about watching this season. Because Gallup should be healthier and because we now have Cooks, that means we have improved weapons for Dak to use during a game. As a result, I think Dak should have a better season this year because his supporting cast at WR is better. The only question I have about our offense is our running game. If Pollard can stay healthy and if Vaughn is what I think he can be, then I think this can be a very good season for us. That's the bottom line though. While you are focused on the QB, I'm looking at the entire cast. Yes, Dak made some egregious interceptions last year, and I called him on that during the game threads when they happened. However, fair is fair. Our WRs were not as good as the competition where we were in the playoffs, and it showed with several of the interceptions. If an improvement is available in the draft, sure, take one. But let's see how Dak does now with what should be better receivers.

With how Dak has played before last season, I think he will be improved. Lamb, when he runs the routes crisply, is an elite WR. Cooks typically goes over 1,000 yards receiving, and did that with 4 different QBs. Gallup should be healthier, and, when healthy, he's usually a solid 2nd WR. I'm excited to see how Mike McCarthy uses them. Plus, I like what Schoonmacher can bring, even as a rookie. I think the trio of him, Ferguson, and Hendershot should be an improvement. I think Schoonmacher will be a significant improvement over Schultz. All in all, I think our weapons in the passing game are better. I only wonder about our running game, as it relates to the offense (and the health of the oline).
 
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RonnieT24 said:
Shame on each and every one of you for feeding such an obvious trolljob. I mean I know it's the offseason and we need stuff to talk about but damn..
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This isn’t a “Cooper Rush threw a bad completion for a 1st down on 4th down”
post.

So why you chiming it in?
 
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HungryLion said:
The next time the cowboys are in a position to take a premium QB. I am fine with them doing so.

Its just so damn hard to find one of the elite ones.

I even look at the last draft that had some top prospects fall to the cowboys. Fields and Mac Jones. Is anyone taking either over Dak right now? I mean they are still young and developing but the results thus far aren’t very impressive.
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They both may be playing for their jobs this year. Bears have stocked up and seem to be going for it. And Mac seems to have already fallen out of favor.
 
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