Dak Prescott vs Wentz vs Goff Draft

[Risen Star]

Witten still blocks well and gets open. He is the best TE on the team and until he can't do those things or retires he will be number 1 TE.

You're so caught up in likes and trying to prove how much smarter you think you are compared to other posters that you're starting to throw crap at the wall in hopes it will stick. Bet it tears you up to be wrong so many times lately....

It's interesting that you now add in "until he can't do those things". I was responding to your over the top "The problem is as long as Witten is on the team nobody will shine and good reason."

He's no more than an average player. A declining blocker, btw. You threw that in there apparently hoping I don't watch the games. He's decent, solid but certainly not elite (where Joeing The Boys just ranked him) and definitely shouldn't be the until retirement do we part starter on this team.

I mean, it may turn out that way because we player worship but it shouldn't be that way.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

It's interesting that you now add in "until he can't do those things". I was responding to your over the top "The problem is as long as Witten is on the team nobody will shine and good reason."

He's no more than an average player. A declining blocker, btw. You threw that in there apparently hoping I don't watch the games. He's decent, solid but certainly not elite (where Joeing The Boys just ranked him) and definitely shouldn't be the until retirement do we part starter on this team.

I mean, it may turn out that way because we player worship but it shouldn't be that way.

Sure Risen whatever you say.

 

[Frozen700]

So basically Dak has to be not just good, but real good for you to start getting happy. I'm HAPPY that Moore isn't the backup. That alone puts a smile on my face. Dak wasn't scared, he was poised, made difficult throws. That for me puts an extra smile on my face. Why frown over that.

You're trying to hard to piece together what I'm trying to say

 

[dstew60105]

I'm also the guy that's been far more right over the years than you.

How do I know this? I've been more right than the team. Which makes me more right than you. You don't have an opinion. You're too busy being player-sexual to have your own thought. You're not worth reading.

Says who? Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for something not true.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I'm also the guy that's been far more right over the years than you.

How do I know this? I've been more right than the team. Which makes me more right than you. You don't have an opinion. You're too busy being player-sexual to have your own thought. You're not worth reading.

If he isn't worth reading then why you not only read his comments but spent the time to reply to his comment......haha

 

[JBS]

It's interesting that you now add in "until he can't do those things". I was responding to your over the top "The problem is as long as Witten is on the team nobody will shine and good reason."

He's no more than an average player. A declining blocker, btw. You threw that in there apparently hoping I don't watch the games. He's decent, solid but certainly not elite (where Joeing The Boys just ranked him) and definitely shouldn't be the until retirement do we part starter on this team.

I mean, it may turn out that way because we player worship but it shouldn't be that way.

You have a misunderstanding..that's all this really is

In a world where mayowa and Russell are above average starters..Jason Witten is elite

 

[jnday]

Says who? Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for something not true.

I will back Risen up. He recognizes problems three years before the team does anything about them. He should be the Cowboys GM.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I will back Risen up. He recognizes problems three years before the team does anything about them. He should be the Cowboys GM.

Thank God he isn't, if he had his way we wouldn't have Zeke, Jaylon, Collins or Dak and possibly Tapper either. Not only that no first round or possible 2nd round next year

 

[dstew60105]

I will back Risen up. He recognizes problems three years before the team does anything about them. He should be the Cowboys GM.

He recognizes that we need a replacement for Romo? Wow, that's breaking news and something 100% of all fans already know.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I will back Risen up. He recognizes problems three years before the team does anything about them. He should be the Cowboys GM.

Then you haven't really paid any attention. He may have been right on some things but not more than Dallas. Much less a Seattle or Pittsburgh.

Forum Board Arm chair GM and not anywhere near the best of those, Mel Kyper is his Draft Guru, say no more. Except to clarify many here do better in a faux GMing role, he's a joke if you pay attention to the self serving worship, his excretion is all bull hockey and he's hardly ever right.

 

[rwalters31]

Doesn't matter all 3 have been at practice the same time. Goff and Wentz went 1 and 2 overall and Dak round 4 so they are suppose to be more talented. Not only that you telling me a 4th round rookie is more prepared...maybe he knows the sun rises in the east so he had more preparation time

Dak got more REAL practice with Moore out and Romo having SENIOR days off. Real practice with the ones has much more influence than 2nd or 3th string reps.

 

[Doomsday101]

At this point in time I'm really only concerned with what Dak does not any QB playing else where. I have nothing bad to say about Goff , Wentz or Lynch. I feel all are quality prospect but once the draft is done then my attention is on who we got not on who we didn't get.

 

[CowboyRoy]

What's funny all those Wentz fans that was calling his game impressive......are no where to be found. Haven't seen one of them eat crow or at least say something good about Dak. It's pathetic really, guys can't stand that Dak outplayed their "jesus". Risen is every making jokes about Dak. I don't need to name those guys we know who they are

How can anyone be wrong after one half of the first preseason game? Wow that is hilarious.

Yet we have seen 8 years of the Garrett horror show and some still cant admit they were wrong about him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's one game. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I mean, Dak could go 2-12 with a pick next week. It wouldn't mean he's not the future.

And no doubt the excuse makers will come out. And of course all these cats have already made up in their minds that Dak is the next coming of Joe Montana. A la Jerry Jones already making it up in his mind.

 

[Verdict]

I am a huge Witten fan. He is one of the greatest TE's in the history of the NFL. He is still a good to very good tight end, but the reason for it at this point is his football IQ rather than his physical ability. Those of you who do not see his play declining, physically, probably just don't want to admit he is declining. That's ok, as a fan, but it probably isn't reality. If you gave Witten truth serum, he would probably tell you he isn't PHYSICALLY the same player he once was.

I also think his cap number is disproportionally large compared to his current ability and production. I love me some Witten, but seriously, it looks like he is running in sand on his routes. I truly wouldn't be surprised if some of the offensive linemen can outrun him in a footrace.

Is he still good? Yes. Does he have value to us? Yes. Is he the best tight end in the game? Not even close. He may not still be the best tight end on this team. Hanna's PHYSICAL skills are better than Witten's at this point in their careers. Whether Hanna is a better overall tight end than Witten, is debatable. Witten would certainly have the edge in football I.Q. over Hanna, but I'm not sure that is enough anymore at this stage in their careers.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak got more REAL practice with Moore out and Romo having SENIOR days off. Real practice with the ones has much more influence than 2nd or 3th string reps.

No doubt Romo's limited practice time and Moore's injury has provided Dak many more 1st team reps in camp but he still deserves credit for making the most of it.

It would have been interesting to see if Dak would have looked as polished with more backups in 2nd half?

 

[dstew60105]

I am a huge Witten fan. He is one of the greatest TE's in the history of the NFL. He is still a good to very good tight end, but the reason for it at this point is his football IQ rather than his physical ability. Those of you who do not see his play declining, physically, probably just don't want to admit he is declining. That's ok, as a fan, but it probably isn't reality. If you gave Witten truth serum, he would probably tell you he isn't PHYSICALLY the same player he once was.

I also think his cap number is disproportionally large compared to his current ability and production. I love me some Witten, but seriously, it looks like he is running in sand on his routes. I truly wouldn't be surprised if some of the offensive linemen can outrun him in a footrace.

Is he still good? Yes. Does he have value to us? Yes. Is he the best tight end in the game? Not even close. He may not still be the best tight end on this team. Hanna's PHYSICAL skills are better than Witten's at this point in their careers. Whether Hanna is a better overall tight end than Witten, is debatable. Witten would certainly have the edge in football I.Q. over Hanna, but I'm not sure that is enough anymore at this stage in their careers.

Wittens only problem is he's not gonna outrun most these days, but yet he's always open and rarely drops anything. Agree that he's good to very good.

 

[Trendnet]

I will back Risen up. He recognizes problems three years before the team does anything about them. He should be the Cowboys GM.

Now that's hero worship!

 

[Doomsday101]

I am a huge Witten fan. He is one of the greatest TE's in the history of the NFL. He is still a good to very good tight end, but the reason for it at this point is his football IQ rather than his physical ability. Those of you who do not see his play declining, physically, probably just don't want to admit he is declining. That's ok, as a fan, but it probably isn't reality. If you gave Witten truth serum, he would probably tell you he isn't PHYSICALLY the same player he once was.

I also think his cap number is disproportionally large compared to his current ability and production. I love me some Witten, but seriously, it looks like he is running in sand on his routes. I truly wouldn't be surprised if some of the offensive linemen can outrun him in a footrace.

Is he still good? Yes. Does he have value to us? Yes. Is he the best tight end in the game? Not even close. He may not still be the best tight end on this team. Hanna's PHYSICAL skills are better than Witten's at this point in their careers. Whether Hanna is a better overall tight end than Witten, is debatable. Witten would certainly have the edge in football I.Q. over Hanna, but I'm not sure that is enough anymore at this stage in their careers.

Witten on his worse day is better than Hanna who has not done nothing since he has been in Dallas. You are right Witten is not the same TE he was in his prime but he still moves the chains and is still a reliable safety blanket for Romo with reliable hands. Fact is Witten knows how to get himself open

 

[DeaconMoss]

I think some of you are missing the point. And I think 99% of you are doing it intentionally.

The point isn't that Dak had a good game and Wentz/Goff didn't. I don't care about the stat line. I care about how they looked. Goff didn't look poised, he looked stiff, undersized. He looked like a rookie straight out of college. Wentz looked like a low IQ QB with bad mechanics. I mean, ****, this guy is still trying to figure out how to slide correctly.

You then have Prescott who was poised in the pocket, throwing accurate deep balls, commanding the huddle well. This is a 4th round pick while the first and second picks are still figuring out the fundamentals of the QB position.

Dak probably will have a few bad plays or a bad preseason game. It'll happen. This still doesn't take away the red flags I saw with Goff and Wentz, and it had nothing to do with the team that was around them.

Nothing to do with team around them? Then why are the 1-2 picks injured?