Dak Prescott's shortcomings are impacting the club's coaching decisions, approach

[TheMarathonContinues]

so in those games if you just switch the Cowboys QB you think the Cowboys win them? Thats what im saying this FO has not constructed a team in 30 years that was a QB away from wining a trophy...it’s 30 years of proof what the issue in Dallas is.

Packers beat us so bad we needed a QB willing to put up 80 that day.

 

[Vtwin]

what team did Dak keep from getting to the NFCCG?

Dak was not a difference maker in any of the playoff losses. The best he ever mustered was stinking it up for a half or so before compiling some stats in a losing comeback effort.

Don't bother coming at me with the box score analysis. Drive by drive or stay on the porch.

Oh yea, and also skip the everybody else's fault garbage. Bottom line is, no matter what other areas underperformed every one of those games could have been won with one difference making play from the QB. The kind of plays Elway regularly made on the way to getting his flawed rosters to the SB.


For the record. The overall point I was making with my response to you was to point out that you guys always use "winning" as your benchmark, as in winning the SB is impossible with the rosters we've had so we can't blame the QB. While I agree with that extreme statement, it can't be used as a defense for Dak because it ignores all the context and nuance of an NFL season and playoffs.

Bigtime players make bigtime plays in bigtime moments. Dak doesn't.

Tip of the cap to John Madden.

 

[conner01]

This is why a RB in the first wouldn't surprise me at all. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to see them not draft one until the 4th or even 5th, given their recent... "style" of roster moves.

This draft is deep at RB. A WR is a better choice in first, unless a stud OT or DT falls

 

[DandyDon52]

The jones boys wanted to keep dak, and to do that they had to pay him 60 mil a year.
Well now everyone has to accept dak as QB for next 2 years at least.

The new HC and staff have to work with what they have lol, and they have Dak!
You whiney fans also have dak, and whining wont help, unless he gets hurt and cant play,
he will be the starter.

We can hope they draft someone we like at qb, in case dak does get hurt, but
we cant rely on that either.

To me this draft is a huge draft that will either turn me on, or off, to the 2025 season and beyond.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Some QBs? Like who, athletic guys like Tim Tebow and Taysom Hill?

I dont recall there being a clamoring abt Dak needing to be a TE. Then again its very possible he may have been a better NFL TE than QB.

Guys were calling for Lamar to be a receiver……happens all the time.

 

[Vtwin]

Packers beat us so bad we needed a QB willing to put up 80 that day.

Or maybe a TD when the defense covered for Dak's INT with one of their own, giving Dak a 1st and ten in the redzone and he failed to convert.

Or maybe when Zeke carried the offense into the redzone as time was winding down, giving Dak a chance to execute the kill shot and he failed to convert.

Just one single difference making play in either of those situations would have won the game.

I got more if you need them.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Or maybe a TD when the defense covered for Dak's INT with one of their own, giving Dak a 1st and ten in the redzone and he failed to convert.

Or maybe when Zeke carried the offense into the redzone as time was winding down, giving Dak a chance to execute the kill shot and he failed to convert.

Just one single difference making play in either of those situations would have won the game.

I got more if you need them.

Hopefully you have some for the defense making the Packers look like the greatest show on turf. Dak needs to learn how to cover better.

 

[Vtwin]

Hopefully you have some for the defense making the Packers look like the greatest show on turf. Dak needs to learn how to cover better.

None of that matters if Dak scores on just one of the two situations I mentioned.

But he didn't and we lost yet another close game.

It must hurt just a little to think that those were actually the good old days of the Dak era. lol

 

[CowboyFrog]

Dak was not a difference maker in any of the playoff losses. The best he ever mustered was stinking it up for a half or so before compiling some stats in a losing comeback effort.

Don't bother coming at me with the box score analysis. Drive by drive or stay on the porch.

Oh yea, and also skip the everybody else's fault garbage. Bottom line is, no matter what other areas underperformed every one of those games could have been won with one difference making play from the QB. The kind of plays Elway regularly made on the way to getting his flawed rosters to the SB.


For the record. The overall point I was making with my response to you was to point out that you guys always use "winning" as your benchmark, as in winning the SB is impossible with the rosters we've had so we can't blame the QB. While I agree with that extreme statement, it can't be used as a defense for Dak because it ignores all the context and nuance of an NFL season and playoffs.

Bigtime players make bigtime plays in bigtime moments. Dak doesn't.

Tip of the cap to John Madden.

im not going to bother coming at you with facts because you dont want them..you want it to be Dak when again he hasnt been here 30 years...you can believe this FO is a "Winner at QB" away many times you would still be wrong...Teams win trophies ..ask Mahomes...you keep asking for a better QB ill keep asking for a real FO only one of us is aksing for a fix to the problem...

 

[Vtwin]

Teams win trophies

This is all that has any relevance in your response. It indicates that you completely misunderstood the point and are going to cling to your box score analysis and absolve Dak for his shortcomings because the roster hasn't been good enough to "win trophies", even though I actually agreed with that.

Yea bro, It's me that doesn't want facts. lol

 

[DandyDon52]

Dak was not a difference maker in any of the playoff losses. The best he ever mustered was stinking it up for a half or so before compiling some stats in a losing comeback effort.

Don't bother coming at me with the box score analysis. Drive by drive or stay on the porch.

Oh yea, and also skip the everybody else's fault garbage. Bottom line is, no matter what other areas underperformed every one of those games could have been won with one difference making play from the QB. The kind of plays Elway regularly made on the way to getting his flawed rosters to the SB.


For the record. The overall point I was making with my response to you was to point out that you guys always use "winning" as your benchmark, as in winning the SB is impossible with the rosters we've had so we can't blame the QB. While I agree with that extreme statement, it can't be used as a defense for Dak because it ignores all the context and nuance of an NFL season and playoffs.

Bigtime players make bigtime plays in bigtime moments. Dak doesn't.

Tip of the cap to John Madden.

So your comparing dak to elway ?? lol

What is the point of your post? Dak is here for next 2 years, and they cant get rid of him.
Only way another qb plays is if dak gets hurt. So no point in whining about how bad dak is,
we all know what he is or isnt.

Dallas being bad in playoffs isnt all on dak either, other players played poorly, MM and JG
were
both bad HC, and they always had weak rosters thanks to the jones boys.

Winning involves being good as a whole, not just one frigging player.

 

[Johannes44]

-They dont trust Dak to win games with his arm

This was true in his rookie year as well. Stack the box and force Prescott to beat you with his arm.

 

[21Savage]

They literally just traded for a $20M WR and possibly the best pass blocking LT in the league so it looks like they are moving to more of a pass first approach. Even if not Washington's leading rusher was....their QB.

You're right in the idea that teams should be trying to constantly help their QB, but you really couldn't have picked a worse comparison there. One team is trying to minimize their QBs touches, the other makes the QB the focal point of their offense.

That’s because he’s a running QB as well. Get back to me at the end of next season. Dak also came out like gangbusters and put Romo in the booth. The league is a living organism that evolves with a QB.

 

[21Savage]

Pretty sure we just seen Barkley win a SB for Philly.

Exactly. And fans are complaining that our offseason plan is similar to what the Eagles did for Hurts lol.

 

[Vtwin]

So your comparing dak to elway ?? lol

What is the point of your post? Dak is here for next 2 years, and they cant get rid of him.
Only way another qb plays is if dak gets hurt. So no point in whining about how bad dak is,
we all know what he is or isnt.

Dallas being bad in playoffs isnt all on dak either, other players played poorly, MM and JG
were
both bad HC, and they always had weak rosters thanks to the jones boys.

Winning involves being good as a whole, not just one frigging player.

Any QB can be compared to any other QB. Dak was compared to Elway by someone else earlier in this thread. Yes I did compare the two. Elway as a difference maker who could carry his team, but only so far. and Dak as a bus driver who never makes those difference makers.

The point of my post was to point out that using the "can't win the SB with the rosters we've had" excuse doesn't fly when assessing the QB. Yes, it may be true in that extreme sense but a difference maker can get you closer.

Yes, I know that Dallas being bad in the playoffs isn't all on Dak. Dak being bad in the playoffs is though. Being bad for a while than good later in the game doesn't erase the bad. Every single loss had stretches of bad play from Dak and every single loss could have been a win with ONE difference making play from the QB. I honestly don't understand what is so unreasonable, or hard to understand about that fact.

I never said Dak has kept us from winning championships. He has undeniably played a significant role in losing playoff games that were very very winnable.

Giving him a pass for his individual failures because "team game" just doesn't seem very well thought out.

 

[CowboyFrog]

So your comparing dak to elway ?? lol

What is the point of your post? Dak is here for next 2 years, and they cant get rid of him.
Only way another qb plays is if dak gets hurt. So no point in whining about how bad dak is,
we all know what he is or isnt.

Dallas being bad in playoffs isnt all on dak either, other players played poorly, MM and JG
were
both bad HC, and they always had weak rosters thanks to the jones boys.

Winning involves being good as a whole, not just one frigging player.

100% this thing is the sum of its parts and has been for 30 years and it starts at the top, the change needs to start at the top.

 

[CowboyFrog]

This is all that has any relevance in your response. It indicates that you completely misunderstood the point and are going to cling to your box score analysis and absolve Dak for his shortcomings because the roster hasn't been good enough to "win trophies", even though I actually agreed with that.

Yea bro, It's me that doesn't want facts. lol

"None of that matters if Dak scores on just one of the two situations I mentioned."

Hmm either your evil twin is also posting or you change views depending on who you repond to....

 

[5Stars]

100% this thing is the sum of its parts and has been for 30 years and it starts at the top, the change needs to start at the top.

You are like a broken record! The FO is not going anywhere. Damn, dude. They will not change. The only hope is to find a QB that is a real QB that makes things happen despite the FO. Everyone of your posts about Dak reverts back to the FO as if that is going to change.

 

[thunderpimp91]

That’s because he’s a running QB as well. Get back to me at the end of next season. Dak also came out like gangbusters and put Romo in the booth. The league is a living organism that evolves with a QB.

Point is one is an emerging QB who is likely yet to enter his prime and his team is positioning themselves to utilize him even more. The other is an aging injury prone QB whose team is trying to get the ball out of his hands. Its two completely different situations in Dallas and Washington.

Exactly. And fans are complaining that our offseason plan is similar to what the Eagles did for Hurts lol.

Philly went out and spent $142M in FA contracts last season. How the heck is the Cowboys 2025 offseason a similar play to what the Eagles did? Still waiting on our version of Saquon Barkley and Mekhi Becton.

 

[MikeT22]

Guys were calling for Lamar to be a receiver……happens all the time.

And?
Welcome to the world where there are often varying opinions.