Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

[Jayinem]

I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.

 

[LocoBates]

It would be 9 freaking years! , no freaking thanks. It is literally now or never.

If it didn't work for / with Dak in 7 there is no reason to think it will work in the 9th year. Besides, comparing to Carr is a low bar, Carr has a SB ring just because he was warming up the bench while backing Eli M with the Giants, but he never played a single snap that season, so unless you bench Dak and make him a backup of a SB winning QB there is no point in comparing.

 

[Jayinem]

It would be 9 freaking years! , no freaking thanks. It is literally now or never.

If it didn't work for / with Dak in 7 there is no reason to think it will work in the 9th year. Besides, comparing to Carr is a low bar, Carr has a SB ring just because he was warming up the bench while backing Eli M with the Giants, but he never played a single snap that season, so unless you bench Dak and make him a backup of a SB winning QB there is no point in comparing.

Derek Carr never played for the Giants that was his brother David Carr. Derek Carr has been with the Raiders his entire career but will be gone after this season they already benched him due to 14 INTs, the same amount Dak has in 5 less games.

I'm just trying to be fair to Dak, I really would probably want 1 more season. But also getting rid of a QB does not guarantee another one will just come in and win. See how that's worked out for the Dolphins since Dan Marino left for example.

 

[Jake]

I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.

Can we stop with this QBs win by themselves nonsense? Derek Carr has had nothing but one coaching and OC change after another, and usually cursed with a bad defense. It's a team sport. Fans simplify it to just the QB for their own convenience. It's easy.

Even Tom Brady hasn't won by himself. It's no coincidence that he had coaching continuity, and a top 10 defense, for years at New England.

 

[817Gill]

Can we stop with this QBs win by themselves nonsense? Derek Carr has had nothing but one coaching and OC change after another, and usually cursed with a bad defense. It's a team sport. Fans simplify it to just the QB for their own convenience. It's easy.

Even Tom Brady hasn't won by himself. It's no coincidence that he had coaching continuity, and a top 10 defense, for years at New England.

Good post

 

[Jayinem]

Can we stop with this QBs win by themselves nonsense? Derek Carr has had nothing but one coaching and OC change after another, and usually cursed with a bad defense. It's a team sport. Fans simplify it to just the QB for their own convenience. It's easy.

Even Tom Brady hasn't won by himself. It's no coincidence that he had coaching continuity, and a top 10 defense, for years at New England.

Why is it that no one gets upset if you say give a coach 2 more years, or a WR, or a RB, or a defensive player no problem saying any of those but there's a problem with the QB? Why is that? The QB is considered to be the most important position not just in football but in all of sports.

I never said Dak is supposed to win by himself, but he plays a very significant role in winning or losing. If somehow he plays fantastic and we lose then that's different, but it usually doesn't happen that way in football. I'm giving him 3 more chances to do some good things in the playoffs if he fails it's time to move on. I think that's totally fair.

 

[Jake]

The Cowboys failure to do much of anything in the postseason for over a quarter century isn't the fault of Dak, Romo, or any other QB during that time.

There have been two constants.

 

[Jayinem]

The Cowboys failure to do much of anything in the postseason for over a quarter century isn't the fault of Dak, Romo, or any other QB during that time.

There have been two constants.

I don't disagree but you can't fire or replace them, only coaches or players. Just because they've been the #1 problem doesn't mean you don't replace players or coaches if needed.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Can we stop with this QBs win by themselves nonsense? Derek Carr has had nothing but one coaching and OC change after another, and usually cursed with a bad defense. It's a team sport. Fans simplify it to just the QB for their own convenience. It's easy.

Even Tom Brady hasn't won by himself. It's no coincidence that he had coaching continuity, and a top 10 defense, for years at New England.

 

[Jake]

I don't disagree but you can't fire or replace them, only coaches or players. Just because they've been the #1 problem doesn't mean you don't replace players or coaches if needed.

So let's stop making scapegoats of players and coaches for their incompetence. If they were actual employees they'd have been fired years ago.

Expecting these two bozos to finally get it right is more than I can muster. They've been at this long enough to prove they can, and they've failed.

 

[Jayinem]

So let's stop making scapegoats of players and coaches for their incompetence. If they were actual employees they'd have been fired years ago.

Expecting these two bozos to finally get it right is more than I can muster. They've been at this long enough to prove they can, and they've failed.

I deal with the same thing on the Mavericks with Mark Cuban. I hate him but love the team. But can't just say don't make any changes ever again because he sucks, I do also hate the Jones but that will not change and when Jerry dies Stephen will take over.

 

[America's Cowboy]

For the record, even though Dak has been with the team 7 seasons, he's only played 6 full seasons in games due to missing 11.7 games of 2020 and 5.3 games of 2022. That should count as 6 full seasons in total games played, thus giving him 3 more seasons to play to win it all.

 

[Jayinem]

For the record, even though Dak has been with the team 7 seasons, he's only played 6 full seasons in games due to missing 11.7 games of 2020 and 5.3 games of 2022. That should count as 6 full seasons in total games played, thus giving him 3 more seasons to play to win it all.

You sound desperate, you don't get passes for being injured.

Derek Carr is only 31 and he's done in Vegas
Dak will be 30 next summer

 

[Jake]

You sound desperate, you don't get passes for being injured.

Derek Carr is only 31 and he's done in Vegas
Dak will be 30 next summer

Neither of them are entirely responsible for their teams' lack of postseason success. One is already a scapegoat, the other may soon follow.

Scapegoats make fans feel better, but they don't address the real problems. They only perpetuate them.

 

[Nav22]

How about for ONCE we see how Dak does with a great defense in the playoffs?

He's never had that, and neither did Tony Romo. That's usually what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You sound desperate, you don't get passes for being injured.

Derek Carr is only 31 and he's done in Vegas
Dak will be 30 next summer

You sound hurt that I mentioned some facts. Oh, I see, you want Dak gone as of......yesterday. Aww, too bad, Dak is here to stay for more than 2 years. Will you be ok?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.

Give him a 10-year extension at 1 billion $ just because he is D-A-K.
All the glory we have witnessed with him under center one wishes he would play (Like Brady) till his 45!

 

[john van brocklin]

The Cowboys failure to do much of anything in the postseason for over a quarter century isn't the fault of Dak, Romo, or any other QB during that time.

There have been two constants.

Yep the common denominators....
Amateurs thinking they are professional GMs.

 

[Yobwocs]

There's so much wrong with this post.


Firstly, Dak isn't even close to being in the same range as Derek Carr. Carr is regularly mentioned as mid tier to sometimes in the upper 20 range. Dak is voted as high as 6, as low as 9 - and has been for about 4 years now. Carr is mentally a midget, shrinks under pressure. McDaniels gave him lots of chances to bounce back from a bad game, and he just gets worse and worse, and has even worse games on top of bad games - and was finally benched. Dak bounced back after Tampa - won 2 straight. Bounced back after Green Bay by crushing the Vikings, and then bounced back against Jacksonville by unseating the Eagles. It's simply a different outlook than Derek Carr. Dak's strengths are usually said to be his mental acuity and reading the field.

Their results and production level isn't even close to being the same. Dak has won 12 games 3 times, 10 games 4 times. Carr has sniffed 12 wins only once, and 10 wins another time and has been .500 or below every other season. Dak has elite production in the regular season. Cowboys are always winning a ton of games every year, and that alone lifts him above the ordinary by quite a bit. You can say he's Phillip Rivers - but if you say that, you have to acknowledge that Rivers was kept for a long long time, until near retirement.


Secondly, there's much more to Carr's benching than his interceptions, a lot to do with lack of offensive production given their myriad of weapons. 0 points against the Saints, for example. And the fact that this was supposed to be the Raiders' year, their expectations were well above .500, and they fell below that mark.


Thirdly, Dak is likely to be Cowboy for life. Yes, he's gonna be here a long long time. And he's likely gonna break all records here - actually probably gonna crush them - next is all of Romo's.


I guess overall my point is that...... Jerry Jones simply doesn't share your viewpoints. He goes by the league wide opinion on his Quarterback instead of yours.

 

[GINeric]

It would be 9 freaking years! , no freaking thanks. It is literally now or never.

If it didn't work for / with Dak in 7 there is no reason to think it will work in the 9th year. Besides, comparing to Carr is a low bar, Carr has a SB ring just because he was warming up the bench while backing Eli M with the Giants, but he never played a single snap that season, so unless you bench Dak and make him a backup of a SB winning QB there is no point in comparing.

Technically Dak only count for 6 full seasons because of the broken ankle. With that said Dak has the same amount of playoff success in 6 seasons as Drew Brees.... one playoff win in that time. Hell, it took Matt Stafford until his 11th, 12th season to get his first playoff win and he's a first round drafted quarterback.

With that said, I would give Dak one more season on this roster. Dak has to lead us deeper into the playoffs to get more time in Dallas IMO.

However, I would like to see Dak in an offense WITHOUT Kellen Moore running it. Dak has played well despite being handicapped by the dumbest offensive coordinator in all of football.