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Agreed, I find it amazing how easily people say how easy it would be for others to take less money. It's not money out of their pockets. If a player a player doesn't take less money, none of that money is coming out of their pockets.
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Yeah, I'll add how short their careers are and the risks the job has.
 

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Why didn't Troy, Emmitt, Romo, D-Law and Zeke take less? Why didn't they give the team a discount?

Oooh, but Dak all of a sudden should? :huh:

Not that I agree with Dak requesting top pay, but how can one player demand that of Dak when they didn't do that themselves?
Aikman did take less, he didn't try for the stars. Secondly, because others don't take less, doesn't mean you should too. If you want to win more games, you take less, if you're just playing the game mostly for money, greed, and don't care about winning, you get all you can get. That's why Zeke don't give a crap he's out of shape, dlaw didn't care to get surgery and then loaded all year and why the cowboys in general didn't care they got their butts handed to them this last season. This team needs to move on from the dlaw, amari, Zeke, Dak kind of attitudes.
 

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Aikman did

Aikman did take less, he didn't try for the stars. Secondly, because others don't take less, doesn't mean you should too. If you want to win more games, you take less, if you're just playing the game mostly for money, greed, and don't care about winning, you get all you can get. That's why Zeke don't give a crap he's out of shape, dlaw didn't care to get surgery and then loaded all year and why the cowboys in general didn't care they got their butts handed to them this last season. This team needs to move on from the dlaw, amari, Zeke, Dak kind of attitudes.
I agree, but then the Cowboys would have to totally rebuild (which would take years). It would take so long that most of this talent would be gone by then. Sadly, these players are showing getting the most money means more to them. What's to say any new/younger players wouldn't turn out the same way too? They all want that money.
 

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Greed is the surest way to ensure this team never has enough talent in all areas of need to the degree they can make a deep run in the playoffs. With all the holes we have, the guys getting the big contracts are the reason some of the holes don't get sufficiently filled. How does the Jones family not see this? It's glaringly obvious to me. I'm sure others of you out there see it too.
 

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I agree, but then the Cowboys would have to totally rebuild (which would take years). It would take so long that most of this talent would be gone by then. Sadly, these players are showing getting the most money means more to them. What's to say any new/younger players wouldn't turn out the same way too? They all want that money.
You start to run it the right way immediately, let the chips fall where they may, no guarantee we can win with Dak anyway since pressure and accuracy aren't his forte , why over pay AVG talent? We need to follow the patriots way. They won with Cassel more games than seemed possible! Cassell played better than Brady! Lol. McCarthy might be the guy that can get more from another QB than seems possible. I'd be happier knowing we are building right. Let cowboy players know, we will let u go! The salary cap did away with player loyalty, if this is the way the two sides agreed to make it, then we need to get on board! If that means 53 new players each year,. So be it! Players have to know, there's a limit, and you don't set limits by giving in, you set the standard and open up the exit door! :).
 

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Aikman did

Aikman did take less, he didn't try for the stars. Secondly, because others don't take less, doesn't mean you should too. If you want to win more games, you take less, if you're just playing the game mostly for money, greed, and don't care about winning, you get all you can get. That's why Zeke don't give a crap he's out of shape, dlaw didn't care to get surgery and then loaded all year and why the cowboys in general didn't care they got their butts handed to them this last season. This team needs to move on from the dlaw, amari, Zeke, Dak kind of attitudes.
Although I wasn't sure about Dak as a player, I was a big fan of him as a person. He appeared to have loyalty and perseverence and seemed to be just a great guy and all about the team. Now............he appears to be greedy and doesn't give a crapp about anyone else.

And you know what? If that's not him, then he should get the dammmm contract signed and get on the mic and apologize to the fans and let them know this was a mistake and that he's really not like that.

My esteem for this young man is fading, and I don't like it and really don't want it to. The ball's in his court right now. Man up and realize that there's nothing you can buy w/ 38 mil that you can't buy w/ 30 mil.
 

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You start to run it the right way immediately, let the chips fall where they may, no guarantee we can win with Dak anyway since pressure and accuracy aren't his forte , why over pay AVG talent? We need to follow the patriots way. They won with Cassel more games than seemed possible! Cassell played better than Brady! Lol. McCarthy might be the guy that can get more from another QB than seems possible. I'd be happier knowing we are building right. Let cowboy players know, we will let u go! The salary cap did away with player loyalty, if this is the way the two sides agreed to make it, then we need to get on board! If that means 53 new players each year,. So be it! Players have to know, there's a limit, and you don't set limits by giving in, you set the standard and open up the exit door! :).
You're wrong about Dak when it comes to pressure, plus his accuracy has been improving, along with his mechanics. Throwing for almost 5K yards and 2 yards shy of breaking the franchise single season passing record, 30+ TDs, 66% completions accuracy, plus a 99 passer rating is nothing to laugh about.
 

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Although I wasn't sure about Dak as a player, I was a big fan of him as a person. He appeared to have loyalty and perseverence and seemed to be just a great guy and all about the team. Now............he appears to be greedy and doesn't give a crapp about anyone else.

And you know what? If that's not him, then he should get the dammmm contract signed and get on the mic and apologize to the fans and let them know this was a mistake and that he's really not like that.

My esteem for this young man is fading, and I don't like it and really don't want it to. The ball's in his court right now. Man up and realize that there's nothing you can buy w/ 38 mil that you can't buy w/ 30 mil.
Did you do the same with Romo, K? If I remember correctly, many, if not most, on the old forums were in full support of Romo not once but twice getting paid top QB pay.
 

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Although I wasn't sure about Dak as a player, I was a big fan of him as a person. He appeared to have loyalty and perseverence and seemed to be just a great guy and all about the team. Now............he appears to be greedy and doesn't give a crapp about anyone else.

And you know what? If that's not him, then he should get the dammmm contract signed and get on the mic and apologize to the fans and let them know this was a mistake and that he's really not like that.

My esteem for this young man is fading, and I don't like it and really don't want it to. The ball's in his court right now. Man up and realize that there's nothing you can buy w/ 38 mil that you can't buy w/ 30 mil.
Kind of an entitled frame of mind in my opinion. I mean, who are any of us fans to determine worth of something we have zero control over.
I said it before, why isn't there more fans pissed off we didn't "build a championship team" in his 1st 4 seasons when he wasn't making crap? What about Elliott, Lawrence and the O line? It's not greed, he outperformed his rookie salary and draft position by far.
 

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If Dak gets too costly, let him go and then either draft a QB in the next draft or sign a stop-gap veteran and draft a QB in the draft after this one. Dak isn't worth 40 million. The cutoff should be about 33 million or we go with the plan B that I stated.
 

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Let me expound on this a little. When players, not necessarily Prescott, say they're priority is family first many think of just him and his immediate family of wife, children and parents, but many of these players come from poor families and they may be very close to grandparents, aunts and uncles and cousins who are also still in poverty and these players want to help them out too. People also look at what the average pay per season and then forget how much of that gets eaten up by taxes, They also don't get that often when these players get new houses for these extended relatives they buy those homes and keep them in the players name so the relative doesn't have to pay capital gains on those houses. They also "create" jobs for these extended relatives and pay them very good salaries so those relatives don't have to pay capital gains tax on top of income tax if the players just gave them the money.

I commend players that take large parts of their income to also take care of not just their immediate family but their extended families too.
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Giver pays gift tax - receiver pays nothing - no Capital Gains tax here! Maybe keep them in players name so they don't pay gift tax.....but you make a good point. Another reason to take the Cowboys offer because your endorsements will bring much more money being the QB of the Cowboys!
 

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You're wrong about Dak when it comes to pressure, plus his accuracy has been improving, along with his mechanics. Throwing for almost 5K yards and 2 yards shy of breaking the franchise single season passing record, 30+ TDs, 66% completions accuracy, plus a 99 passer rating is nothing to laugh about.
His accuracy still sucks, I've never seen another QB that throws such bad balls , especially on crossing routes,. That's hyped as much as he. As the year went on , his bad balls seemed to get worse. Behind our O line and receivers, he should be hitting in the 70 percentile. Like to see what would have happened without Amari being such a threat with or without the ball to the opposing team. He improved from last year in the beginning, but then started going downhill. Good accuraye and, don't have to have Ur feet set. Romo, Steve Young, tarkenton, Montana, Aikman, Roger, Danny white, Meridith,. And on and on. This guy has a serious passing problem. And the reason more ppl didn't refute romo getting his contract, is Romo had IT. ROMO had the goods and was the core of the Dallas offense for years, when he didn't have equal talent around him. Romo was elite talent. Dak is AVG only because he is big enough to get yards when he runs.
 

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I think you should walk into your workplace on Monday and tell your boss you wish to take 20% less than what you currently make in salary.

Then come back and do a set of posts revealing how that works out for the better as you go forward. I'd suggest you can make the serial pay per view, but do not want to offend your altruistic sensibilities.
My company does not have a hard salary cap!
 

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At the time Emmitt had just led the league in rushing and Prescott didn't end up leading the league in passing last season but he did until week 16. As great as I think Emmitt was, he did something that many really dislike. He held out while still under contract not living up to the contract that he had already signed, and then holding out until he was the highest paid RB ever yet at the time wasn't anywhere close to being the all time leading RB. As it turned out he did get there, but he hadn't at the time he signed that contract. With Prescott leading the league in passing for most of the year and coupled with the Cowboys scoring 30 or more points in 9 of 16 games it's safe to say that he did a good job carrying the team in those games.
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That's false! He was not under contract.
https://insidethestar.com/ezekiel-elliotts-holdout-is-different-from-emmitt-smith-in-1993/
 
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Skip Bayless makes some real valid points. Say what you want about the guy. He's killing Sharpe in this argument.



#DontpayDak

The point skip is making and for some reason isnt saying it, is that Daks 50 million in endorsements would be down to nothing if he played for the dolphins, or the Bengals, or the Raiders.... let Dak walk.

Lets see, 32 million in nfl salary, plus 45 million in endorsements equals 77 million per year.

40 million in nfl salary from the dolphins, plus 3 million in endorsement money equals 43 million per year.

Go ahead Dak, run that by your agent.
 

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Why didn't Troy, Emmitt, Romo, D-Law and Zeke take less? Why didn't they give the team a discount?

Oooh, but Dak all of a sudden should? :huh:

Not that I agree with Dak requesting top pay, but how can one player demand that of Dak when they didn't do that themselves?
is Zeke getting 40 million a year in endorsements? and Zeke isnt a qb that can play for 15 years.
 

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As great as Emmitt was, he should be the last person to question any player for wanting to get as much money as they can get. Emmitt in the last year of a contract sat out of camp and the 1st 2 games until the Cowboys gave him a new contract which incidentally made him the highest paid running back in the NFL.

Then Skip kept comparing Brady's last couple of contracts that came about after already putting in 14 season in and the accumulative amount of money he's made and how he didn't need any more money to Prescott who is coming off his rookie contract and what money he's made thus far. Skip and some here sound like socialists that are opposed to anyone that want to make as much money as they can.
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you forgot the millions he gets ONLY because he has a star on his helmet. Take away that star, and yeah, hes poor from his rookie deal.
 

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I hope the Cowboys are also talking to Brady’s agent as a plan B.

The Cowboys may not win SBs during the 2 years Brady plays (if signed); but there will be a massive amount of excitement watching the Cowboys.
 

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Here's food for thought on our 40 million dollar QB. Over the last 2 seasons, Dak is 5-11 against teams with .500 records or better with 22 TD passes and 20 turnovers. Clutch baby!

Question is if he's worth 40M, whats Mahomes worth? 70M?
 
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