Dak since his return

TequilaCowboy

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Since coming back, Dak is now 7th in QB efficiency, 5th in EPA per play and the O is averaging 35 points per game.

https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/

For reference, Dak was 14th in efficiency last year and 12th in EPA / play. Appeared fairly rusty early on but has gotten a little sharper with more snaps and appears to be returning to form.

The only stat i look at is 3-1....need to make it 4 on turkey day. Only stat that matters. This is a team game, remember? That's what i kept hearing when Dallas loses.
 

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In a way I don't wanna hear it from the haters-hating on Dak after the GB game. Like I said. Dak did his job. Not perfect but he did enough to win big. The defense showed up in GB as they did in Minny. It's 28-3 Dallas in GB. That's is what pissed me off. Dak gave them 28 and against anybody with the defense doing their job. Should be enough. Especially a team playing like GB was. But back to the Minny game. All e aspects of the team showed up. The one for me that HAS to show up every game is the defense. The offense just needs to stay steady. We aren't getting 40 points per game.
You couldn’t get much more perfect
3 incomplete passes with one a drop
 

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What a silly troll you are.
We rank top 5 in every advanced offensive statistics just about every year Dak is here. We went from a bottom 10-12 offense to a top 10 one and will continue to rise. Some of your trolling doesn't even make sense.
When Dak came back, we were 23rd in the league in Points for and 27th in Yards.

5 games later we are 7th in points for and 14th in yards.

Just to reinforce your point of his impact.
 

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What the leg injury robbed him of most was his base which caused his footwork to suffer. Because Dak is not as natural a thrower of the ball as some of these slang it types it's doubly important that he constantly work to hone his mechanics. The leg injury cost him a lot of that footwork work (I know it sounds redundant but I don't know how welse to say it) and the results were glaring inconsistency. The most obvious place where I saw it was his lack of confidence throwing on the run. Especially when rolling right. He absolutely refused to put weight on that outside foot and fire the ball the way we had become accustomed to seeing him do. Maybe he wasn't even conscious that he was doing it and I'm sure they talked about it in film study but film study can't remove your body's own self preservation instincts and I guarantee you every time he rolled right his brain said "watch the leg, watch the leg" loud in his head. I think now that he's past that we've seen him back to be deadly accurate on the move as well as from the pocket.

Even after the last three INTs he has thrown I, like everyone else, screamed WHAT THE HELL!?!?! Until I saw the replay and was able to see that on all three, the one against Chicago and the two against the Packers, he threw to a spot and if the receiver, Lamb, had just cut across the safety's face those are all completed passes or PI at the very least. Now if we want to discuss whether the refs actually throw the PI flag on the ones at Green Bay... well that's another matter completely.

Interesting take, I didn’t think about his footwork but it makes sense.
 

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Dak has two really good games (CHI, MIN), and two so so showings (DET, GB), and one really bad clunker this year.

Good news is even in his mediocre showings this team was still in a position to win the game.

Better news is that this is what even the better QBs in the league do. Ball out for half your games, and lean on your team to pick a qb up for the other half. It's why good QBs on bad teams still seem to be around 500 year after year. It's kind of like a top pitcher in baseball. They make 30ish starts a year and only about a third of them do they really have their best stuff to work with to completely dominate. A qb is typically a similar situation, unless you are a prime Brady/Manning/Rogers/Brees/etc. This team has the resources to bail out Dak when he doesn't have his best game,

As long as the Cowboys can stick to this formula of 25-30 throws a game for Dak this team has a very high ceiling. Lean on Dak for 40+ throws week after week and you're just setting him and the team up for failure. Don't make the guy be on 100% of the time. It's not who Dak is and unrealistic except for the elite of elite tier of QBs.

Good stuff. EPA is a cool stat because it takes a lot into consideration. We’ve seen Dak play great and just ok this year, but body of work his rankings are very high across the league.
 

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The only stat i look at is 3-1....need to make it 4 on turkey day. Only stat that matters. This is a team game, remember? That's what i kept hearing when Dallas loses.

Yup, 100% agree. Which is why I didn’t include W/L in my original post.
 

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He's decent when he's kept on a leash but to say that he's very good is very misleading.

I'm gonna fix it for you. Here's decent...
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Yes. It is perfect logic. Trent Dilfer wasn't a franchise QB. To pay him as such would have made him a fraud as it makes Dak Prescott. Yet the Ravens won with him by being great around him. This is what the Cowboys must do. They can't expect anything from their QB. He's an empty vessel.

So as long as the run game, OL, defense and even ST dominates you can win with Dak Prescott and about 50 other QBs in the league.
Skip Bayless hedged his bet in the perfect Skip way. Lol
 

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Dak has been capable of playing a very good game for a long time. This is nothing new. His inconsistency drives the polarized views of him. He'll make you fall in love, and then break your heart. Over and over....

It's not a question of how good he can play, but one of how bad he can play.
 

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Since coming back, Dak is now 7th in QB efficiency, 5th in EPA per play and the O is averaging 35 points per game.

https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/

For reference, Dak was 14th in efficiency last year and 12th in EPA / play. Appeared fairly rusty early on but has gotten a little sharper with more snaps and appears to be returning to form.
If we get the Vike's Dak and not the GB Dak the rest of the season, we ill be a force to reckon with!
 

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In a way I don't wanna hear it from the haters-hating on Dak after the GB game. Like I said. Dak did his job. Not perfect but he did enough to win big. The defense showed up in GB as they did in Minny. It's 28-3 Dallas in GB. That's is what pissed me off. Dak gave them 28 and against anybody with the defense doing their job. Should be enough. Especially a team playing like GB was. But back to the Minny game. All e aspects of the team showed up. The one for me that HAS to show up every game is the defense. The offense just needs to stay steady. We aren't getting 40 points per game.

No but we ARE getting 35 per game since Dak returned.. I'll take it..
 

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Dak has been capable of playing a very good game for a long time. This is nothing new. His inconsistency drives the polarized views of him. He'll make you fall in love, and then break your heart. Over and over....

It's not a question of how good he can play, but one of how bad he can play.

This is just not a logical take since every QB has ups and downs as the season goes on. If you're looking for perfection every week you're going to be disappointed no matter who your favorite QB is. All I need from Dak is that he play well enough to help my team win games. I don't need stats, I don't need talking heads or idiot fans declaring him "elite" or top 5, 10 or 30. I don't care about any of that. W's is what I want. If we get those who cares about all of that other crap?
 

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Dak has been capable of playing a very good game for a long time. This is nothing new. His inconsistency drives the polarized views of him. He'll make you fall in love, and then break your heart. Over and over....

It's not a question of how good he can play, but one of how bad he can play.

All QBs have inconsistency. The stats provided indicate he’s inconsistent far less than a majority of his peers.
 

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If we get the Vike's Dak and not the GB Dak the rest of the season, we ill be a force to reckon with!

I don’t think there was much difference in the 2 games. If we didn’t have the option route mishaps in GB his line wouldn’t been something like 280 / 3 /1.

The difference was GB scored like 31 points and the Viks scored 3 points.
 

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A guy who is paid like a franchise QB and taking up so much of his team's cap space yet can not do anything a real franchise QB can do. Which is to elevate the players around him.

He's as real as a QB as Jerry is a GM and Stephen the VP of Personnel.
Oh perfect was expecting the contract thing, not really anywhere else to go.

Dak can do anything a non-elite QB can do. Anyone within the top 14 or so is considered a franchise QB. It just is what it is. Not saying it’s ideal but it’s the fact.

For people like you who feel like only top tier QB’s good be paid like that, I definitely suggest writing the owners a letter and asking them to only reserve big contacts for elite QB’s. Maybe ask them to create a middle class of contracts that would seem ideal.

My advice to you is not to operate in a world of what should be, but in a world of what is. Obviously Dak shouldn’t be paid like a top 5 guy, but that’s not the nature of the position and market. Everyone in that top 14ish range gets paid top of the market money. You can pout and be mad at Jerry and Dak all you want but the reality of the matter is any team without an immediate alternative to a franchise guy would have signed Dak.

As long as the supply and demand of QB’s remain as it is, guys like Dak will get paid and that’s just the way it is. Yes it’s annoying but the market is the market.

Are you implying that only 5 QB’s should be paid top dollar? And if so, do you think that’s anywhere remotely close to being realistic? Do you struggle with understanding how the QB market works? Are all the guys in Dak’s tier who are paid or will be paid like him excused from this disdain or do you also have these feelings for Kyler, Cousins, and Wilson?
 
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