Dak since his return

[Denim Chicken]

I'll say it was good to see that designed run. They should really to that a few times a game. Just gives the defense more to think about.

 

[cowboyec]

he's gotten better every year he's been in the league.
no doubt.
credit to him for bustin' his tail.

 

[cnuball21]

Oh perfect was expecting the contract thing, not really anywhere else to go.

Dak can do anything a non-elite QB can do. Anyone within the top 14 or so is considered a franchise QB. It just is what it is. Not saying it’s ideal but it’s the fact.

For people like you who feel like only top tier QB’s good be paid like that, I definitely suggest writing the owners a letter and asking them to only reserve big contacts for elite QB’s. Maybe ask them to create a middle class of contracts that would seem ideal.

My advice to you is not to operate in a world of what should be, but in a world of what is. Obviously Dak shouldn’t be paid like a top 5 guy, but that’s not the nature of the position and market. Everyone in that top 14ish range gets paid top of the market money. You can pout and be mad at Jerry and Dak all you want but the reality of the matter is any team without an immediate alternative to a franchise guy would have signed Dak.

As long as the supply and demand of QB’s remain as it is, guys like Dak will get paid and that’s just the way it is. Yes it’s annoying but the market is the market.

Are you implying that only 5 QB’s should be paid top dollar? And if so, do you think that’s anywhere remotely close to being realistic? Do you struggle with understanding how the QB market works? Are all the guys in Dak’s tier who are paid or will be paid like him excused from this disdain or do you also have these feelings for Kyler, Cousins, and Wilson?

Yea, the money element is just FA works especially at the QB position.

Everyone freaked out about Cousins deal a few years ago and now it looks normal. Same thing will happen on Daks when the next wave gets paid.

 

[mardwin]

You don't know football, then...break down his film....he is very good.

Kurt Warner did on several occasions and agrees with my assessment.

 

[Jarv]

Dak is continuing his upward trajectory at the position much to the chagrin of the "Dak will never" yadda yadda yadda crowd. He's better now than he was last year and will be better next year than he is this year. May that fact continue to piss off his detractors and force them find ever more obscure locations to put the goalposts for him.

He had detractors because he was inconsistent, from after the Miami game last year through the Tampa game this year.

If he plays more like this week I for one (Not a Dak lover) will be much happier with him as our QB.

As a side note, I bought his Jersey before the season started in 2016 and was a big fan that year. I will be again if he plays more often like we saw yesterday!

 

[Slick]

What’s a fraud though? A guy who’s not top 5?

I feel like you just described the winning formula for anyone not named Mahomes, Allen, etc. That’s why elite QB’s who can shoulder the load are so rare.

Dak and 99% of the other QB’s need the help you’re referring to in order win a SB. It’s not being a fraud lol it’s just the nature of being a non-elite QB.

That's not what his contract reflects.

 

[RonnieT24]

Interesting take, I didn’t think about his footwork but it makes sense.

People don't like to hear it but part of the reason I am not one to to declare what Dak can't do or can't become is that I watched the offense he ran in college and realize that it did absolutely nothing to prepare him as an NFL passer. So truth be told Dak Prescott didn't start getting legit QB coaching until he came to Dallas. In terms of arm mechanics and footwork he was WAY behind guys who were in more pass oriented offenses in college. But it wasn't hard to notice how quickly he closed the gap on the guys in his draft and some of the ones after. By now we should all acknowledge that he clearly passed up every QB in his draft and has closed in on some of the more heralded ones drafted before and after him. People get offended for some reason when I say it's not outside the realm of possibility that he passes them all up some day. Or at least catches up to them. For 4+ games in 2020 and 6 games in 2021 he was playing the position as well as anyone ever has. If he stretches that level of play for 6-7 more games this team will be in the Super Bowl. No one knows if he will.. but as Broadus likes to say.. if you've shown me you can do it once, I know you can do it again.. Maybe he never reaches that Mahomes, Brady or Rodgers level.. but to me everybody else is squarely on the table.

 

[RonnieT24]

That's not what his contract reflects.

According to who?

 

[Ranching]

Kurt Warner did on several occasions and agrees with my assessment.

Keep hating....that's your right.

 

[cnuball21]

People don't like to hear it but part of the reason I am not one to to declare what Dak can't do or can't become is that I watched the offense he ran in college and realize that it did absolutely nothing to prepare him as an NFL passer. So truth be told Dak Prescott didn't start getting legit QB coaching until he came to Dallas. In terms of arm mechanics and footwork he was WAY behind guys who were in more pass oriented offenses in college. But it wasn't hard to notice how quickly he closed the gap on the guys in his draft and some of the ones after. By now we should all acknowledge that he clearly passed up every QB in his draft and has closed in on some of the more heralded ones drafted before and after him. People get offended for some reason when I say it's not outside the realm of possibility that he passes them all up some day. Or at least catches up to them. For 4+ games in 2020 and 6 games in 2021 he was playing the position as well as anyone ever has. If he stretches that level of play for 6-7 more games this team will be in the Super Bowl. No one knows if he will.. but as Broadus likes to say.. if you've shown me you can do it once, I know you can do it again.. Maybe he never reaches that Mahomes, Brady or Rodgers level.. but to me everybody else is squarely on the table.

Yea, he’s come a long way in terms of development from his days of being a prospect.

I think he’s still growing too. I’d like to see more of it, but Ive seen him start to throw the ball away a bit more this year. My biggest critique is he can hold onto the ball too long some times which can lead to negative plays but I’m seeing some improvement there which is good.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Yea, the money element is just FA works especially at the QB position.

Everyone freaked out about Cousins deal a few years ago and now it looks normal. Same thing will happen on Daks when the next wave gets paid.

That's the main issue I have with the Dak contract. Dak is the next wave to get paid lol as his deal was only 4 years at $160. Dak is the 2nd highest cap hit in football for each of the next two seasons, then it's time for a new deal where he jumps to probably $50MM per.

The AAV for Daks deal isn't bad at all, but the overall structure isn't very good for the Cowboys. Dak took Jerry behind the barn and destroyed him in that negotiation. Pretty much every aspect was pro Dak.

 

[817Gill]

That's not what his contract reflects.

What’s not that what his contract reflects?

 

[cnuball21]

That's the main issue I have with the Dak contract. Dak is the next wave to get paid lol as his deal was only 4 years at $160. Dak is the 2nd highest cap hit in football for each of the next two seasons, then it's time for a new deal where he jumps to probably $50MM per.

The AAV for Daks deal isn't bad at all, but the overall structure isn't very good for the Cowboys. Dak took Jerry behind the barn and destroyed him in that negotiation. Pretty much every aspect was pro Dak.

That’s the Jones fault. Dak could’ve been had for about 32-35 mil the year before but they got cute and waited…and then his price went up.

No idea what the next contract will entail but we’ve got until 2024 unless they extend again.

 

[Traye1]

When your run game, OL and defense are dominant the league is littered with QBs who can do what he did.

If they can all keep that level of play then they can win a title with Dak Prescott. If at any point they can't and more of the burden falls on the QB they can not win. It's that simple because he's a fraud.

In that scenario...according to your point all quarterbacks are frauds. Staubach had Pearson, and a Doomsday D) Troy had Michael and the greatest running back in NFL history along with a killer D, Montana had Rice, (Top Rated D, Brady had Gronk, (top rated D), Bradshaw had Swan, (one of the best D's in history) and the list goes on and on till the break of dawn. Even Dilfer and McMahon had two of the best defenses of all-times. winning a superbowl takes unified effort along with hard work and sometimes a whole lotta good fortune better known as luck...

 

[thunderpimp91]

That’s the Jones fault. Dak could’ve been had for about 32-35 mil the year before but they got cute and waited…and then his price went up.

No idea what the next contract will entail but we’ve got until 2024 unless they extend again.

Not saying it's anyones fault. I understand why the Cowboys waited, I also understand Dak taking a business approach. Reality is though Daks deal doesn't age the way people think it will. The AAV will age well, actually, it already has, but his cap hit jumps $30MM starting next year and becomes a real issue for the Cowboys. Very possibly they simply restructure next season, but that solves one problem and opens up another.

 

[Q_the_man]

When your run game, OL and defense are dominant the league is littered with QBs who can do what he did.

If they can all keep that level of play then they can win a title with Dak Prescott. If at any point they can't and more of the burden falls on the QB they can not win. It's that simple because he's a fraud.

all you do is hate on Dak. Never something good. Only around 35 QBs in the history of the NFL has won a SB, its not easy bruh. In 55+ years we have 5 rings so i guess those other 50years our QB sucked

A guy who is paid like a franchise QB and taking up so much of his team's cap space yet can not do anything a real franchise QB can do. Which is to elevate the players around him.

He's as real as a QB as Jerry is a GM and Stephen the VP of Personnel.

 

[Q_the_man]

Yes. It is perfect logic. Trent Dilfer wasn't a franchise QB. To pay him as such would have made him a fraud as it makes Dak Prescott. Yet the Ravens won with him by being great around him. This is what the Cowboys must do. They can't expect anything from their QB. He's an empty vessel.

So as long as the run game, OL, defense and even ST dominates you can win with Dak Prescott and about 50 other QBs in the league.

once again hate. HATE.

 

[IceStar-D7]

This is just not a logical take since every QB has ups and downs as the season goes on. If you're looking for perfection every week you're going to be disappointed no matter who your favorite QB is. All I need from Dak is that he play well enough to help my team win games. I don't need stats, I don't need talking heads or idiot fans declaring him "elite" or top 5, 10 or 30. I don't care about any of that. W's is what I want. If we get those who cares about all of that other crap?

Consistency. If that's 25 fine. If it's 50 fine. No big turn overs. defense the same. Hold em under 21. No more than 24.

 

[5Stars]

This game against the Vikes had me scratching my head because I could not believe how well Dak played! I'm not sure if I have ever seen him play a game as good as he did this game. I think Dak was in the locker room and it was actually Tad that was out there at QB. Anyway, that is the way a QB needs to play and my hat is off to Dak and the team today, damn good job.

 

[DenCWBY]

He's decent when he's kept on a leash but to say that he's very good is very misleading.

I think he was exceptional yesterday. The question is can he be decent, very good or exceptional on a consistent basis or most every Sunday?? A good start would be to perform well against the Giants.