Dak struggled last week with very little help but tonight he outplayed Herbert!

[Yobwocs]

Dak didn't look good. Got sacked when it wasn't needed. Overthrew WR's all night. Was terrible at executing the tush push. Consistently threw short of the first down marker. It was painful to watch him run the offense.

How hard is it to play QB in the NFL. If he plays perfect, the game would've been a blowout, but most games in the NFL are close for a reason...... most QBs (Mahomes and Allen included) usually play far from perfect.

 

[Chasing6]

Herbert had MUCH better pass protection than Dak, but played a MUCH worse game!

That is a FACT!

Dak was forced to scramble around ALL game long. He was sacked 4 times( one was maybe his fault, but no one was open on that one!). BUT, Dak was still able to move the team down the field when he needed to. He was able avoid the rush on enough plays, and make really good throws, to help lead us to victory. The running game didn’t help Dak either. The FG drive was excellent!

On the other hand Herbert missed wide open receivers, with no pressure, throughout the game.

Herbert was not clutch, Dak was.

Last week, I was ready to give up on Dak, but tonight he looked very good considering he was forced to carry the offense.

I will say the D played EXCELLENT. They were put in a lot of tough situations and only gave up 17 points. Micah came thru with the big sack AND Gilmore, played like the smart veteran he is, and jumped the route on the int!!!!!!!

Not sure if it is Dak or our game plan, but Ferguson is the solution to Dak's problems.

 

[Clove]

Dak definitely played a lot better today. However; the big picture, going by past Dak experiences, he usually chokes in the play offs. Those are facts. But today, he was a star.

 

[VaqueroTD]

When Dak runs, he wins. Always seems to be the case throughout his career.

 

[Kwyn]

You probably won’t find a top five QB ranking that doesn’t include him, but it’s based on the numbers he puts up. He puts up a lot of yards and TDs, but it comes down to winning games and he’s coming up short in that area. If the numbers aren’t equating to wins, who cares.

We talk a lot about empty stats.

That Herbert is at the top of that list is not a difficult argument to make.

We talk a lot about QBs who elevate their team and win despite adversity, but the guy is a .500 QB.

At what point do wins matter more than “arm strength” and nice spirals?

 

[ATXSRT]

The very first sack he took CD fell down and no one else was open. After that he was pretty good at maneuvering thru the pocket and getting away from pressure.

 

[Kwyn]

Dak didn't look good. Got sacked when it wasn't needed. Overthrew WR's all night. Was terrible at executing the tush push. Consistently threw short of the first down marker. It was painful to watch him run the offense.

Surprised we watched the same game.

Dak was put in bad spots all night long against a good defensive front and had zero help from his o-line and running game.

He was running for his life and made critical throws and runs on busted plays series after series.

 

[KJJ]

We talk a lot about empty stats.

That Herbert is at the top of that list is not a difficult argument to make.

We talk a lot about QBs who elevate their team and win despite adversity, but the guy is a .500 QB.

At what point do wins matter more than “arm strength” and nice spirals?

Wins have always mattered most. When a QB has a great arm and puts up big numbers but isn’t winning some blame the players around them. The Chargers aren’t a bad team and have some talent, but Herbert was missing open receivers. That’s on him.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Disagree. Herbert was harassed a ton, but moved enough to escape. His bad misses were due to pressure.

Dak was a mixed bag. Missed some wide open huge plays, and was at time a dear in headlights in the pocket. Other times he made good plays to extend things.

Herbert was playing against a much better defense.

Take off your biased Dak glasses.
Herbert mist a few wide open receivers with little pressure.
Also, regarding the defenses, neither team could run the ball and Dak was sacked 4 times and pressured all night long. Herbert was sacked once and pressured on and off. The D pressure did come on the last 2 defensive plays.

Side note on the last 2 defensive plays. The Chargers had 2nd and 2 with plenty of time and Kellon Moore decided to pass! Mistake! Micah came thru with the big sack!

 

[Kevinicus]

Except one gave up one sack and the other got sacked 5 times lol.

That goes back to the deer in headlights I mentioned.

Herberts pocket presence is much better than Dak's.

We talk a lot about empty stats.

That Herbert is at the top of that list is not a difficult argument to make.

We talk a lot about QBs who elevate their team and win despite adversity, but the guy is a .500 QB.

At what point do wins matter more than “arm strength” and nice spirals?

Never. Wins are a team stat.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Dak didn't look good. Got sacked when it wasn't needed. Overthrew WR's all night. Was terrible at executing the tush push. Consistently threw short of the first down marker. It was painful to watch him run the offense.

Of course he wasn’t perfect. I agree he did throw short of the sticks a couple times on 3rd down, but he played a dam good game considering we had no running game and the pass blocking was piss poor.
Again, he out played Herbert who had better pass protection.

On the tush push. Come on! Did you see the play.
We got no push at all!!!

 

[Nav22]

That goes back to the deer in headlights I mentioned.

Herberts pocket presence is much better than Dak's.


Never. Wins are a team stat.

Passer rating...
Dak 109, Herbert 84.

QBR...
Dak 60, Herbert 57.

17-17, 4th quarter...
Dak gets team into FG range, Herbert gets 0 yards and throws an INT.

Dak outplayed your Golden Boy and is now 2-0 against him.

Cope.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dak had some misfires.
Golden Boy had more.

Dak got into FG range in the clutch.
Golden Boy choked in the clutch.

Dak is now 2-0 vs Golden Boy.

That's also the number of playoff wins they each have.

Herbert made his first playoffs last year and I don't recall him winning 2 games

 

[Nav22]

I know most fans would take Justin Herbert over Dak in a heartbeat but this is his fourth season, and he’s not winning a lot of games. After the loss today his career record is 27-27. He puts up numbers but he’s basically Matt Stafford 2.0.

Not to mention 0-1 in the playoffs after a historic collapse.

Dak won his first playoff game in year 3.

Herbert? Nope.

 

[Captain43Crash]

That goes back to the deer in headlights I mentioned.

Herberts pocket presence is much better than Dak's.


Never. Wins are a team stat.

If you think Herbert played better than Dak you just have a strong bias against Dak.

I bet there are a high percentage of Charger fans complaining about Herberts game tonight. Did you watch the game. A couple of Charger receivers were very frustrated with your boy Herbert!

 

[plasticman]

There are a lot of selective memories and flawed perceptions on this forum. I wish there was a rule that you couldn't complain about the team until 24 hours after a victory. Every win needs to be enjoyed and celebrated for at least a day before we are informed just how undeserving it was.

Dak and the Cowboys played well against a team that had two weeks to prepare for them.

We had a flag happy group of referees, both teams were penalized excessively.

The starting offensive line has now been intact for two games. They will improve with each game and should be at their most efficient when playoffs come around.

I don't care which individual player did what, when and how much. The Cowboys beat a pretty good team on the road just before their bye week.

 

[Nav22]

Disagree. Herbert was harassed a ton, but moved enough to escape. His bad misses were due to pressure.

Dak was a mixed bag. Missed some wide open huge plays, and was at time a dear in headlights in the pocket. Other times he made good plays to extend things.

Herbert was playing against a much better defense.

"His bad misses were due to pressure"

LOLLLLLL

There was literally zero pressure on him when he overthrew the deep shot to a WIDE OPEN Keenan Allen late.

Nice try!!!

 

[Kwyn]

That goes back to the deer in headlights I mentioned.

Herberts pocket presence is much better than Dak's.


Never. Wins are a team stat.

I’m sure you’ll remember that in any future criticisms of the Dallas QB.

Deal?

 

[Kevinicus]

If you think Herbert played better than Dak you just have a strong bias against Dak.

I bet there are a high percentage of Charger fans complaining about Herberts game tonight. Did you watch the game. A couple of Charger receivers were very frustrated with your boy Herbert!

Dallas has a top D.
LA has a bottom D.

That things were comparable at all indicates the guy playing the good D was better.

 

[Kwyn]

That goes back to the deer in headlights I mentioned.

Herberts pocket presence is much better than Dak's.


Never. Wins are a team stat.

Are sacks a “team stat”?

Your comment clearly lays all of the sacks that Dallas gave up at Dak’s feet as if having d-linemen in your face just happens by magic.

Go back and watch. Our offensive line had perhaps its worst game of the year. Tyler was especially bad.