Dak vs. Romo - Deep passing

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  1. Aviano90

    Aviano90 Effort and Attitude Zone Supporter

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    It appears Cowboys fans have become fascinated with deep passing since Dak took over as QB. I have compiled the career totals for Dak and Romo using data obtained on ESPN under "Splits" for each QB. It will list the passing stats based upon distance thrown. Here is what the breakdown looks like for the 2 QBs showing the % of total passes thrown for each distance followed by the completion % at each distance.

    Romo
    Behind LOS - 15.5% of total passes; 79.2% completion percentage
    1-10 yards - 51.8% of total passes; 71.5% completion percentage
    11-20 yards - 22% of total passes; 54.8% completion percentage
    21-30 yards - 6.6% of total passes; 39.6% completion percentage
    31-40 yards - 2.9% of total passes; 36% completion percentage
    41+ yards - 1.1% of total passes; 28.6% completion percentage

    Dak
    Behind LOS - 14.2% of total passes; 84.5% completion percentage
    1-10 yards - 54.8% of total passes; 70.7% completion percentage
    11-20 yards - 22.2% of total passes; 53.0% completion percentage
    21-30 yards - 5.6% of total passes; 37.3% completion percentage
    31-40 yards - 2.5% of total passes; 34.8% completion percentage
    41+ yards - 0.8% of total passes; 28.6% completion percentage

    Dak's numbers are not too far off from what Romo's were for his career. It's not like our offense has been a deep pass juggernaut that stopped when Dak became the QB.
     
  2. glimmerman

    glimmerman Well-Known Member

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    2 years vs career.

    Let’s see the stats after Dak has compiled some passes. Maybe 5 years or so. But I think he is good and will get better.
     
  3. Aviano90

    Aviano90 Effort and Attitude Zone Supporter

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    Yes a 2 year player who is made out to be a scrub because he can't pass deep vs. a QB that some consider to be Hall of Fame worthy. I would think the numbers would be night and day different based upon the perceptions, don't you think?
     
  4. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    The Dak can’t throw the deep ball has always been a myth
     
  5. Streetwise

    Streetwise Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    When fans say Dak can't/never did throw deep I have no idea what they're watching. I guess he needs to bomb hail mary's left and right even though Romo never did either.
     
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  6. phildadon86

    phildadon86 Well-Known Member

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    I also think a lot of people forget that Romo had the luxury of T.O taking slants for 80 yards and drumming up his stats lol
     
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  7. Hawkeye19

    Hawkeye19 Well-Known Member

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    Dak gets one more year to show that he can pilot the offense. His intangibles, leadership, and work ethic are all franchise caliber. Can he consistently deliver when he has to put the team on his back? He has had too many sub 200 yard performances for my liking-- and while others may blame the OL, Zeke suspension, Dez's attitude, WR corps issues, Witten's age, coaching staff etc... I tend to be a realist: Dak needs to play better in critical moments. Period.

    He looks amazing for 24 games-- and terrifyingly pedestrian for 8 games. This season will reveal a lot about Dak. Hope he handles his business and proves the doubters wrong.
     
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  8. Streetwise

    Streetwise Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Man, T.O. was crazy good.
     
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  9. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye.

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    Romo had that version of TO for about a year and a half.
     
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  10. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye.

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    Dak is ahead of where Romo was after two years. Dak will be fine.
     
  11. 4lifecowboy

    4lifecowboy Well-Known Member

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    Most real post regarding Dak I have read in a while.
     
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  12. Streetwise

    Streetwise Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    3 seasons.
    Averaged 1200 yards
    Averaged 12.6 TDs
    Averaged over 15 yards per catch
     
  13. 4lifecowboy

    4lifecowboy Well-Known Member

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    Analytics are gonna be the death of real football. I watched Romo, Aikman, and Staubach trust me Dak ain't on any of those guys level. He may have benefited from stepping into a better situation than the others, but I have yet to see Dak wow me with his talent.
     
  14. phildadon86

    phildadon86 Well-Known Member

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    Gotta love facts
     
  15. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, this data is just for the actual yards of the play and not for the air yards traveled. So while I believe that the analysis is still fine as a blunt tool, it is not necessarily indicative of the depths of the field to which a QB will throw.
    Romo shouldn’t be confused with Dan Fouts, but he was very willing to throw the ball to the deep middle of the field. Dak is just a dink and dunk guy.
    Here’s a stat for Dak slobberers to chew on: under Dak “The Mad Bomber” Prescott, the Cowboys are 31st in the league in 20 yard pass plays since 2016:

    http://pfref.com/tiny/GIERf
     
  16. phildadon86

    phildadon86 Well-Known Member

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    Green Bay in the playoffs Pittsburgh at Heinz field just a couple examples of Dak showing his leadership and his ability
     
  17. rnr_honeybadger

    rnr_honeybadger Active Member

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    So in 2 years Dak managed to average the numbers that Romo amassed over an entire career. LOL, you do know how an average works right?
     
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  18. Jipper

    Jipper Well-Known Member

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    hate to tell you but hes got way more than 1 year...the leash is not that short.
     
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  19. rnr_honeybadger

    rnr_honeybadger Active Member

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    Look at the mirror image of those stats and tell me it isn't the infernal offensive scheme?
     
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  20. Aviano90

    Aviano90 Effort and Attitude Zone Supporter

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    It's how far the ball is thrown. Do you think 15% of Romo's and 14% of Dak's pass plays have resulted in negative yards?
     
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