Dak was incredible

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Dak sucks, Zeke is a bum, the offensive line is poor, Dez can't run routes, Witten is old, Beasley is tiny, Williams and Butler are inconsistent, and the defense can't stop anyone. Looks like Dallas is going 2-14 this season.
 

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Did I say that? I said do you want Dak benched for his poor play?

No, you said would I want to bench Dak for Moore, a guy whose poor play regularly in pre season against scrubs was even worse than Dak's worst day this season
 

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Dez also runs an incredible amount of go routes which are very easy to defend. Our routes don't help. The last full season with Romo, Dez and TWill were top 3 in number of go routes.

So he's not a good deep threat or he's got a QB that doesn't throw a good go route.

Dak is also throwing him the ball deep.

And like I said, RG3 had a good first year too.

Dak has looked sub par this year, including deep, despite seeing 8 and 9 man fronts.
None of those things makes Dez an established deep threat. Dallas doesn't really have one. Yet.

And Dak, who is the common denominator as he is throwing the ball to all these guys, has the highest passer rating on 15+ yard throws since he came into the league. Most of that success on these deeper throws has come on the passes to players other than Dez Bryant, as I've shown you. Going forward, I'd expect the offense to keep doing more of what it does best.
 

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Dak QB Rating 88.9

Tom Brady QB Rating his early years (regular season not playoffs)...

2001 86.5
2002 85.7
2003 85.9
2006 87.9
 

khiladi

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None of those things makes Dez an established deep threat. Dallas doesn't really have one. Yet.

And Dak, who is the common denominator as he is throwing the ball to all these guys, has the highest passer rating on 15+ yard throws since he came into the league. Most of that success on these deeper throws has come on the passes to players other than Dez Bryant, as I've shown you. Going forward, I'd expect the offense to keep doing more of what it does best.

He isn't this year.. and RG3 was settimg records his first season too..

he also was doing it off play action and Zeke rushing for over 1600 yards..

And you haven't shown what type of routes those guys run and what they caught those passes in.. 15 yards is hardly a go route not does it qualify as 'deep'..
 

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No, you said would I want to bench Dak for Moore, a guy whose poor play regularly in pre season against scrubs was even worse than Dak's worst day this season

Again, do you want Dak benched because of his poor play. You are so fed up with him. What is the answer then? Put in Moore or Rush, or keep Dak in and you continue to be pissed all season long.
 

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Again, do you want Dak benched because of his poor play. You are so fed up with him. What is the answer then? Put in Moore or Rush, or keep Dak in and you continue to be pissed all season long.

Your logic is awful.. so I am so 'fed up with him' that I would put in a worse QB or an unknown right now for him? That is your logic?
 

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Your logic is awful.. so I am so 'fed up with him' that I would put in a worse QB for him? That is your logic?

So you want to be pissed all season long and want to come into threads moaning about how awful Dak is post after post. That logic sure is better than mine. lol.
 

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So you want to be pissed all season long and want to come into threads moaning about how awful Dak is post after post. That logic sure is better than mine. lol.

So you want to be pissed about me being 'pissed' all season long?
 

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So you want to be pissed about me being 'pissed' all season long?

I am laughing, I never get pissed. I just enjoy seeing you get angry with all these posters over someone with an 88.9 qb rating so far, when Brady had a worst qb rating thru many of his early years. To each his own. Continue with the rant. I will move on.
 

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I am laughing, I never get pissed. I just enjoy seeing you get angry with all these posters over someone with an 88.9 qb rating so far, when Brady had a worst qb rating thru many of his early years. To each his own. Continue with the rant. I will move on.
Weren't Brady's early years that you posted before the defensive rule changes which basically changed the game making it much easier on the offense? So not comparable at all?
 

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Weren't Brady's early years that you posted before the defensive rule changes which basically changed the game making it much easier on the offense? So not comparable at all?

So offenses today are easier than when he played early on?
 

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"Great" is a bit much, considering how the game was going early. Halftime adjustments took a while to get going but Dak stepped up & finished off the game much better than he started it.
 

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You mean he threw it in a place where both guys were and whoever jumped up to get it and come down with it could or he threw the ball, perfectly placing it in Butler's hand?
You should watch more football.

Tom Brady makes throws like that all the time when he has a 1-on-1. Ditto Aaron Rodgers. That's how you beat man coverage.

Those were tremendous throws by Dak.
 

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In Tom
Lol. Sounds good. But it is wrong. Accuracy has historically been the best predictor of great quarterbacks.
During Tom Brady's first five years as a starter, 2001 to 2006, a QB completed 64% or more of his passes in a season 31 times.

None of them were Tom Brady, His team won three Super Bowls during that time.

However, let me clarify. As it pertains to the ability to zip the ball between the defenders right on the numbers like Marimo, Aikman, or Favre. Im talking abkut the truly gifted ones. Montana and Brady were not those guys, they relied on timing, srudying defenses and understanding when and when not to throw.

I said accuracy was desirable, but it isn't necessarry. Look at the QB's who win multiple Super Bowls and you realize they had the intangible qualities I mentioned.
 
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