Dak > Wince

And he could have fewer losses than Dak if he had played those games, right? :rolleyes:
Anyway, getting back to my original point, what coaches, players - either former or current - would choose Dak over Wentz?
That means nothing. At some point it’ll be all about their production and their records, and that time is coming soon. The Wentz excuse train is on its last few stops.

They’re 3 years into their careers and their career stats are close enough. Wentz was a #2 pick and Dak was a 4th rounder. At this early stage of their careers, of course Wentz will still get the benefit of the doubt from the media that annointed him as a franchise QB since the moment he was drafted.

In 2002, I’m sure people would’ve said Donovan McNabb (#2 pick) was more of a franchise QB than Tom Brady (6th rounder).
 
It's about as adorable as your penchant to create straw men.
Where did I say Wentz was special? Dak sure isn't.
What I said is that if coaches, players past and present had to choose between Dak and Wentz, most - if not all - would choose Wentz. I've heard former players who are commentators say it.
Your incessant need to defend Dak is admirable. :)
Wouldn’t Wentz have to be pretty special for you to rank him above a QB who’s never missed a start, is 32-16 and who’s been the most clutch QB late in games in the NFL since 2016?

Wentz’s resume doesn’t match up to Dak’s. The ONLY thing Wentz has on Dak right now is draft status. Dak’s overall stats are better and so is his W/L record.

Once their rookie deals expire, the Wentz excuses will expire as well. Tick, tock.
 
I think @tyke1doe makes valid points, as no two situations are the same. But I'd argue this particular discussion should be turned on its head.

We're citing a top-flight receiver as an advantage Dak had, yet this is the same top-flight receiver who hasn't performed at a high level since 2014. We cite a HOF tight end, yet it's Wentz's tight end who has been the better player since Wentz and Dak came into the league. Dak's offensive line is always referenced, yet it was Wentz's line highly regarded as one of the best a year ago.

Look, I like Wentz a lot. I've plainly said as much here on many occasions. But there are just as many excuses made for why he is statistically inferior to Dak as the "Dak-stans" are accused of making on Prescott's behalf.

Most damning of Wentz is the fact his team is better when his backup plays.

I'd add that there's a revisionist/hindsight perspective given to these arguments too. Let's be honest. How many Dallas Cowboys fans thought the Eagles were a great team during the 2017 season? Not many, especially given the "The Eagles Suck" mantras we so often see around here.
But the Eagles won the Super Bowl, which THEN leads people to believe that the Eagles had the best team. Well, duh! Anyone can claim that after the fact.
Conversely, any short-falling on the Cowboys' part is always going to be blamed on a unit other than Dak. Oh, well, the offensive line wasn't great. The play calling wasn't great. The coaching wasn't great. The defense wasn't great. We heard the same thing with Romo.

I'll give Dak one advantage over Wentz and that's durability. That makes him a better quarterback than Wentz right now. But, as I've stated before, knowing what we know now about both quarterbacks, I doubt any coach or player would still take Dak over Wentz.

But you know what. I'm not losing any sleep over this argument. People get overly sensitive about Dak support, Dak criticism. Regardless, Dak is our quarterback. For the immediate moment, we need him to perform if we're going to get past the Seahawks. The criticism/praise of him can wait for another week.
 
Wouldn’t Wentz have to be pretty special for you to rank him above a QB who’s never missed a start, is 32-16 and who’s been the most clutch QB late in games in the NFL since 2016?
No, because football is a TEAM game. When one unit is down, another unit can pick up the slack. Do you think all those 32 wins were solely because of Dak? The New Orleans win was all about DEFENSE. Dak's offense could only generate 13 points.
As for clutch, Tim Tebow was clutch. But Tebow got exposed during the playoffs when playing against better competition.
Aikman never had to make a lot of late game comebacks because his teams were so dominant.
You can't take situations out of context.

Wentz’s resume doesn’t match up to Dak’s. The ONLY thing Wentz has on Dak right now is draft status. Dak’s overall stats are better and so is his TEAM'S W/L record.

Fixed that for you. ;)
Again, if you asked current and former players and coaches who they would choose between Wentz and Dak, most - if not all - would choose Wentz. I know that irritates you, but I'm not the one who says this. When asked, many say they still prefer Wentz.

Once their rookie deals expire, the Wentz excuses will expire as well. Tick, tock.
Be careful, because the same may apply to Dak as well. ;)
 
That means nothing. At some point it’ll be all about their production and their records, and that time is coming soon. The Wentz excuse train is on its last few stops.
Prisoner … of … the … moment.
This is what I love about these discussions. The supporters emerge from the shadows when Dak has a comeback against a weak team like the Giants. But when he falters, they're either making excuses or they're silent.
It's the same with the Cowboys. When we win, the "told you so's" flow. But when we get beat, the Kool-Aid drinkers begin making excuses.
That's why these discussions are somewhat premature. You've already concluded Wentz is done.
Okay. We'll see. ;)

They’re 3 years into their careers and their career stats are close enough. Wentz was a #2 pick and Dak was a 4th rounder. At this early stage of their careers, of course Wentz will still get the benefit of the doubt from the media that annointed him as a franchise QB since the moment he was drafted.
You mean like Alex Smith got the benefit of the doubt over Aaron Rodgers? :huh:
The media you speak of are former NFL players and coaches. They have little care where someone was drafted. They're looking at film, the same film that reveals that Dak misses big throws down the field.

In 2002, I’m sure people would’ve said Donovan McNabb (#2 pick) was more of a franchise QB than Tom Brady (6th rounder).
Kind of like how you're saying Dak is a better quarterback than Wentz? ;) How ironic.
But you just proved my point.
In 2002, Donovan McNabb WAS a better quarterback than Tom Brady based on the STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, the same thing you're pointing to now.
But let history continue, and we see that Tom Brady was the BETTER quarterback.
Similarly, based on the stats, Dak is better. But with some historical perspective - which we don't have because both are still playing - Wentz may be the better quarterback. :)
 
Prisoner … of … the … moment.
This is what I love about these discussions. The supporters emerge from the shadows when Dak has a comeback against a weak team like the Giants. But when he falters, they're either making excuses or they're silent.
It's the same with the Cowboys. When we win, the "told you so's" flow. But when we get beat, the Kool-Aid drinkers begin making excuses.
That's why these discussions are somewhat premature. You've already concluded Wentz is done.
Okay. We'll see. ;)


You mean like Alex Smith got the benefit of the doubt over Aaron Rodgers? :huh:
The media you speak of are former NFL players and coaches. They have little care where someone was drafted. They're looking at film, the same film that reveals that Dak misses big throws down the field.


Kind of like how you're saying Dak is a better quarterback than Wentz? ;) How ironic.
But you just proved my point.
In 2002, Donovan McNabb WAS a better quarterback than Tom Brady based on the STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, the same thing you're pointing to now.
But let history continue, and we see that Tom Brady was the BETTER quarterback.
Similarly, based on the stats, Dak is better. But with some historical perspective - which we don't have because both are still playing - Wentz may be the better quarterback. :)
LOL Rodgers was a 1st-round pick! Awful comparison.

And no, Brady’s 2001 season was better than anything McNabb had done, because Brady won more frequently in 2001 than McNabb. Including the Super Bowl.

Oh right, “Brady’s TEAM” won more than “McNabb’s TEAM”.

“But McNabb is still the #2 overall pick with way more potential!”

Hmmm, sounds familiar. Go find anyone in the media in 2002 that was saying Tom Brady is the better long-term option than McNabb. You can’t. That means that they were all wrong.

LOLLLL Wentz misses big throws just as often as Dak does, if not more often.

He also chokes in big moments about 3x often as Dak does. Have you seen Wentz play?

I never said “Wentz is done.” He may very well end up having a very good career. But he’s not Dak Prescott, and I have a feeling history will remember them in reverse order of their draft status.
 
Wentz has to be wincing at how his career has gone so far. He saw what would have been an MVP season last year go down the drain with an injury late in the season and had to sit forcing him to sit and watch his backup lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl championship winning MVP honors in the process. Now Wentz finds himself injured again late in the season having to once again watch his backup lead a red hot Eagles team into the playoffs for a second straight year. If Foles were to lead Philly to back to back championships you would almost have to feel sorry for Wentz.
 
Wentz has to be wincing at how his career has gone so far. He saw what would have been an MVP season last year go down the drain with an injury late in the season and had to sit forcing him to sit and watch his backup lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl championship winning MVP honors in the process. Now Wentz finds himself injured again late in the season having to once again watch his backup lead a red hot Eagles team into the playoffs for a second straight year. If Foles were to lead Philly to back to back championships you would almost have to feel sorry for Wentz.
I do feel sorry for Wince. He actually thought at one point in his life that he was better than Dak... Poor lil tink tink.
 
LOL Rodgers was a 1st-round pick! Awful comparison.

The comparison was higher pick vs. lower pick. :rolleyes:

And no, Brady’s 2001 season was better than anything McNabb had done, because Brady won more frequently in 2001 than McNabb. Including the Super Bowl.
See, this is what I mean by picking and choosing stats.
First, Brady HAD NOT won more frequently than McNabb at that point. McNabb came into the league in 1999. His record from 1999-2001 was 24-14. Brady came into the league in 2000. He didn't start his first year and was 11-3. And if you include the Super Bowl, he still didn't win more frequently than Brady.

Oh right, “Brady’s TEAM” won more than “McNabb’s TEAM”.
Now, you're taking things out of context. I said at the time you first referenced, no one was saying Brady was better than McNabb. In fact, based on stats, McNabb was better. Aren't you all arguing how stats prove Dak is better than Wentz?
Which is it? You're flip flopping.

“But McNabb is still the #2 overall pick with way more potential!”
What are you talking about?

Hmmm, sounds familiar. Go find anyone in the media in 2002 that was saying Tom Brady is the better long-term option than McNabb. You can’t. That means that they were all wrong.
Huh?

LOLLLL Wentz misses big throws just as often as Dak does, if not more often.
So you've examined the all-22 for Wentz's misses? We have on Dak's overthrows and lack of throws. :laugh:

He also chokes in big moments about 3x often as Dak does.

If he has played less than Dak, how can he choke three times as often? You're just making stuff up now.

I never said “Wentz is done.” He may very well end up having a very good career. But he’s not Dak Prescott, and I have a feeling history will remember them in reverse order of their draft status.
And I've said that most coaches and players both former and current would prefer Wentz over Dak. Somehow, that hurts your feelings. Sorry. ;)
 
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You know what people really hate in these types of situations ..... Facts. Hindsight: is always 50/50 Lets look into this since its kinda important as a stat but most are too lazy to do so. Now lets not play excuses or injuries ect because we all know there is lots of factors in games.



Daks record as claimed - 32 w 16 L - lets break down wins against teams with winning records

2016: 13-3 with only 3 of the 10 ||| 2017: 9-7 only 2 of the 9 "includes gimmie game w17" ||| 2018: 10-6 with only 3 of the 10 which left Dak with only 8 out of his 32 wins against winning teams.

Wentz Record - 23 w 17 L - again breaking down the wins against teams with winning records

2016: 7-9 with only 4 of the 7 "includes gimme game w17" ||| 2017: 11-2 with only 4 of the 11 ||| 2018: 6-6 with only 1 of the 6 which left Wentz 9 out of his 23 wins against winning teams.



So in the grand scheme of things Wentz has 1 more win vs winning teams with 9 fewer games. Wentz also has never been shutout and was able to drive the team to score a TD in every game. His biggest fault is Dak greatest asset. Availability, which really trumps all since Dak has not missed a game. Another stat I see on here is game-winning drives which is not a great stat to judge by. because too much falls on the rest of the team to be able to tie only the QB too. Example Blowing teams out / Defense dropping ball/ and who has ball last. Also to be fair Wentx injury in 2017 was Flukey , this year was one he could of played with. Concerns are brittle bones? can he learn to protect himself? Dak needs to work on footwork and his pocket presence. Issues for both Qbs can be fixed with time/ experience.Will it ? only time will tell .

As of now both teams are lucky to have the QBs they do and future looks bright. Should of some great games against the 2 teams. People should stop worrying about what they dont have and be happy with what they do. Playoffs 2 out 3 seasons with Dak not to mention 3 winning seasons in a row which has not happened in a long time. So much upside for the Cowboys and its future . Is it just some people are never happy ?

Edit: So when it all comes down to it
Dak : 32-16 with only 8 of 32 against teams with winning records.
Wentz: 23-17 with only 9 of the 23 against teams with winning records .

BTW Cpt Kirk has been criticized for the same thing about wins and stuff here, but Daks is not as bad as his.
 
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The comparison was higher pick vs. lower pick. :rolleyes:


See, this is what I mean by picking and choosing stats.
First, Brady HAD NOT won more frequently than McNabb at that point. McNabb came into the league in 1999. His record from 1999-2001 was 24-14. Brady came into the league in 2000. He didn't start his first year and was 11-3. And if you include the Super Bowl, he still didn't win more frequently than Brady.


Now, you're taking things out of context. I said at the time you first referenced, no one was saying Brady was better than McNabb. In fact, based on stats, McNabb was better. Aren't you all arguing how stats prove Dak is better than Wentz?
Which is it? You're flip flopping.


What are you talking about?


Huh?


So you've examined the all-22 for Wentz's misses? We have on Dak's overthrows and lack of throws. :laugh:



If he has played less than Dak, how can he choke three times as often? You're just making stuff up now.


And I've said that most coaches and players both former and current would prefer Wentz over Dak. Somehow, that hurts your feelings. Sorry. ;)
Pssst... 11-3 is a much better record than 24-14, especially when you tack on what Brady did in the postseason. That’s simple math.

Just like Dak’s 32-16 is much better than Wentz’s 23-17.

As for Brady/McNabb’s stats... 1) Brady’s passer rating in 2001 was better than any that McNabb had up to that point, and 2) Wentz backers have been using the stats argument nonstop, but now you’re attributing it solely to Dak backers? LOL that’s rich. Nice try with that irrelevant deflection, but Dak backers have pointed to W/L record and CLUTCH PLAY more than anything else.

I don’t need to see the all-22 to state the obvious. Watch Wentz play and you’ll see several errant passes sprayed all over the field. It just doesn’t spawn a 20-page thread like when Dak misses on a few.

Dak has 14 game-winning drives, Wentz has 4. Wentz has come up short about 3x as many times as Dak has in those situations. I know it sounds “made up” because it’s hard to believe that any QB could be that much of a choker, but it’s true.

Dak is a MUCH more clutch QB than Wentz. That’s not at all debatable.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/10/25/santoliquito-carson-wentz-is-not-a-clutch-quarterback/

“He’s had nine chances to win games coming from behind or tied in the fourth quarter and Wentz has only come through once—when he hit Jeffery at the New York Giants’ 43 on Sept. 24, 2017. It set up Jake Elliott’s historic 61-yard field goal that propelled the Eagles to a 27-24 win and laid out the foundation for the Super Bowl run.

That’s it.

Otherwise, Wentz is 1-8 in fourth-quarter clutch situations.”

1 for 8!!! And that ONE required a 61-yard FG!!!! :lmao2:
 
You know what people really hate in these types of situations ..... Facts. Hindsight: is always 50/50 Lets look into this since its kinda important as a stat but most are too lazy to do so. Now lets not play excuses or injuries ect because we all know there is lots of factors in games.



Daks record as claimed - 32 w 16 L - lets break down wins against teams with winning records

2016: 13-3 with only 3 of the 10 ||| 2017: 9-7 only 2 of the 9 "includes gimmie game w17" ||| 2018: 10-6 with only 3 of the 10 which left Dak with only 8 out of his 32 wins against winning teams.

Wentz Record - 23 w 17 L - again breaking down the wins against teams with winning records

2016: 7-9 with only 4 of the 7 "includes gimme game w17" ||| 2017: 11-2 with only 4 of the 11 ||| 2018: 6-6 with only 1 of the 6 which left Wentz 9 out of his 23 wins against winning teams.



So in the grand scheme of things Wentz has 1 more win vs winning teams with 9 fewer games. Wentz also has never been shutout and was able to drive the team to score a TD in every game. His biggest fault is Dak greatest asset. Availability, which really trumps all since Dak has not missed a game. Another stat I see on here is game-winning drives which is not a great stat to judge by. because too much falls on the rest of the team to be able to tie only the QB too. Example Blowing teams out / Defense dropping ball/ and who has ball last. Also to be fair Wentx injury in 2017 was Flukey , this year was one he could of played with. Concerns are brittle bones? can he learn to protect himself? Dak needs to work on footwork and his pocket presence. Issues for both Qbs can be fixed with time/ experience.Will it ? only time will tell .

As of now both teams are lucky to have the QBs they do and future looks bright. Should of some great games against the 2 teams. People should stop worrying about what they dont have and be happy with what they do. Playoffs 2 out 3 seasons with Dak not to mention 3 winning seasons in a row which has not happened in a long time. So much upside for the Cowboys and its future . Is it just some people are never happy ?

Edit: So when it all comes down to it
Dak : 32-16 with only 8 of 32 against teams with winning records.
Wentz: 23-17 with only 9 of the 23 against teams with winning records .

BTW Cpt Kirk has been criticized for the same thing about wins and stuff here, but Daks is not as bad as his.
Wentz went 1-5 vs teams that finished with a winning record this season.

Foles went 2-0.
 
Pssst... 11-3 is a much better record than 24-14, especially when you tack on what Brady did in the postseason. That’s simple math.

Actually, that's not what you said. Let me run it back for you.

Nav22 said:
And no, Brady’s 2001 season was better than anything McNabb had done, because Brady won more frequently in 2001 than McNabb. Including the Super Bowl.

Uh, winning 11 games IS NOT winning more frequently than winning 24 games. :laugh:

Just like Dak’s 32-16 is much better than Wentz’s 23-17.

Actually, it's not MUCH better. You could argue that Dak has won MORE FREQUENTLY, but you're not going to do that because it contradicts your aforementioned argument. Even so, Dak has played more games than Wentz. Of course, he would have either a better win or worse loss record than Wentz? Duh!
Any more useless stats?

As for Brady/McNabb’s stats... 1) Brady’s passer rating in 2001 was better than any that McNabb had up to that point, and 2) Wentz backers have been using the stats argument nonstop, but now you’re attributing it solely to Dak backers? LOL that’s rich. Nice try with that irrelevant deflection, but Dak backers have pointed to W/L record and CLUTCH PLAY more than anything else.

See, this is the problem with numbers and stats. You can make them prove ANYTHING YOU WANT THEM TO!!!
First, we're talking about Dak and Wentz first three years. Then we start comparing McNabb's and Brady's first three years (two in Brady's case).
And I make the argument that McNabb was considered the better quarterback due to the disparity of when their careers started.
Then you come back with a 2001 comparison.
You're moving all over the place.

I don’t need to see the all-22 to state the obvious. Watch Wentz play and you’ll see several errant passes sprayed all over the field. It just doesn’t spawn a 20-page thread like when Dak misses on a few.
]Dak has 14 game-winning drives, Wentz has 4. Wentz has come up short about 3x as many times as Dak has in those situations. I know it sounds “made up”, but it’s true. Dak is a MUCH more clutch QB than Wentz.
Hmm. So you don't need to watch the tape to determine why Wentz may not be connecting on his passes? We're just supposed to take your word for it? :rolleyes:

Oh, great. Some guy name Joseph Santoliquito says Wentz is not a clutch quarterback. And we're supposed to take his word as Gospel?

“He’s had nine chances to win games coming from behind or tied in the fourth quarter and Wentz has only come through once—when he hit Jeffery at the New York Giants’ 43 on Sept. 24, 2017. It set up Jake Elliott’s historic 61-yard field goal that propelled the Eagles to a 27-24 win and laid out the foundation for the Super Bowl run.

That’s it.

Otherwise, Wentz is 1-8 in fourth-quarter clutch situations.”

Here's where analysis is your friend.
In 2017, in the 12 games Wentz played leading the team to a 10-2 record, 7 of the 10 wins were by DOUBLE DIGITS. One (the game Wentz was injured in) was by eight, one by 3, another by 2.
So here's the $20,000 question: why do you need late game heroics when you're blowing teams out?

See, this is why statistics and numbers are so misleading. They need to be interpreted within a context.
I'll ask you this simple question: which quarterback would you want on your team:
A. A quarterback who is efficient throughout the game leading your team to a double digit victory or
B. A quarterback who stinks it up for much of the game (Tim Tebow) but delivers your team to victory in the closing minutes?


1 for 8!!! And that ONE required a 61-yard FG!!!! :lmao2:
7-2 with double digits!!!! :lmao2:
Me likely manipulating stats. :laugh:
 
Foles lead the Eagles to a super bowl and now leads them going into the playoffs. Speaks volumes on what leadership can do in the ultimate team sport. Is Foles a better QB physically than Wince? Hell no, but his teammates respond and believe in him. I’ve said this before in another thread, that you cannot place value on having a couple of guys in the locker room that are true leaders. what do all the Wince fans do if Foles wins in the wildcard round?
 
Pssst... 11-3 is a much better record than 24-14, especially when you tack on what Brady did in the postseason. That’s simple math.

Just like Dak’s 32-16 is much better than Wentz’s 23-17.

As for Brady/McNabb’s stats... 1) Brady’s passer rating in 2001 was better than any that McNabb had up to that point, and 2) Wentz backers have been using the stats argument nonstop, but now you’re attributing it solely to Dak backers? LOL that’s rich. Nice try with that irrelevant deflection, but Dak backers have pointed to W/L record and CLUTCH PLAY more than anything else.

I don’t need to see the all-22 to state the obvious. Watch Wentz play and you’ll see several errant passes sprayed all over the field. It just doesn’t spawn a 20-page thread like when Dak misses on a few.

Dak has 14 game-winning drives, Wentz has 4. Wentz has come up short about 3x as many times as Dak has in those situations. I know it sounds “made up” because it’s hard to believe that any QB could be that much of a choker, but it’s true.

Dak is a MUCH more clutch QB than Wentz. That’s not at all debatable.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/10/25/santoliquito-carson-wentz-is-not-a-clutch-quarterback/

“He’s had nine chances to win games coming from behind or tied in the fourth quarter and Wentz has only come through once—when he hit Jeffery at the New York Giants’ 43 on Sept. 24, 2017. It set up Jake Elliott’s historic 61-yard field goal that propelled the Eagles to a 27-24 win and laid out the foundation for the Super Bowl run.

That’s it.

Otherwise, Wentz is 1-8 in fourth-quarter clutch situations.”

1 for 8!!! And that ONE required a 61-yard FG!!!! :lmao2:

Game winning drives is a flawed stat to just pin on a QB. For one its dependent on not just the offense but the defense as well. Why do so many of Daks games come down to the final seconds if he is superior? I ask because you cant get credit for the drive when you are crushing the competition. Drives count if from even a Field goal , Dak only has 7 GWD TDs so the rest were done by someone else

So these game-winning drives that Dak is so great at? with only 7 GWD TDs btw GWD are credited in OT wins as well which sometimes other team does not even get ball or chance. So how many of those were vs Good teams with winning records ? I mean Dak only has 8 of his 32 wins against teams with winning records ... So he struggled a lot to barely beat out bad teams? While Wentz has 9 of his 23 win were against winning record teams... Thats a lot better since he played a whole 9 games less then Dak. But yes use GWDs to prop up a single player ... because as you see you can use it both ways
 
Wentz has to be wincing at how his career has gone so far. He saw what would have been an MVP season last year go down the drain with an injury late in the season and had to sit forcing him to sit and watch his backup lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl championship winning MVP honors in the process. Now Wentz finds himself injured again late in the season having to once again watch his backup lead a red hot Eagles team into the playoffs for a second straight year. If Foles were to lead Philly to back to back championships you would almost have to feel sorry for Wentz.


And he has to walk past that Nick Foles statue outside the stadium every game day. :muttley:

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And he has to walk past that Nick Foles statue outside the stadium every game day. :muttley:

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Seriously the last two seasons have been a nightmare for Wentz. He plays most of the season putting the Eagles in position only to get injured and have Foles take over for the home stretch and playoffs. What a great gig Foles has, just stands around all season on the sidelines then gets to take over in the money games.
 
Edit: So when it all comes down to it
Dak : 32-16 with only 8 of 32 against teams with winning records.
Wentz: 23-17 with only 9 of the 23 against teams with winning records .

The problem with such analysis is that there's simply too much context being left out in order to adequately interpret the numbers.
There are other factors such as:
1. How did the quarterbacks play in the game.
2. What was the margin of victory?
3. Who was playing in the game on both sides?
4. Were their major injuries on either side that would have affected the outcome of the game?
5. What was the coaching strategy?
6. How did other players perform?

etc.

We simply look at numbers and say, "See, Dak's record is 32-16 with 8 of 32 teams with winning records." Okay, but let's examine those games. For example, let's look at the New Orleans game. Is anyone who saw that game attributing Dak with winning that game for us or being the primary factor in that win? Or is it the defense that kept a Saints offense average 40 points a game to 10?

There are just too many variables to consider.
But have at it.
 

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