Dak's Ceiling

[G2]

Sure.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Has Dak reached the pinnacle of his growth or is he still developing and maturing? I personally think what we see is what we get. Curious what others think.

Its a 10 year process. You are expecting too much too quickly.

 

[perrykemp]

Dak is fine. I'd rank him around 9-12 in the league. You can win a Superbowl with a QB of that quality.

He is Kurt Cousins "lite" if that makes any sense...

 

[Surfguy]

What? No good?

 

[khiladi]

 

[charron]

I think he has peaked or at least leveled off. Ranked someowhere slightly above average. If he made $ on par with his ability they could put better talent around him and tge offense would be more consistent. Better playcaller wpuld help too

 

[DeaconMoss]

Just gonna have to live with Dak until 2025. Maybe the worst contract in team history.

Contracts are meant to be broken. Time to sit Dak down and tell him to waive his no trade clause and find an amicable new team. His time in Dallas has run its course.

 

[khiladi]

The guy is still chasing the ghost of his rookie season 7 years later.

His numbers his rookie season, aside from INTs, were middle of the pack.

It was the efficiency that made that offense good and him look good leading it. He took what the defense gave him instead of trying to be Mahomes like he does now.

I wouldn’t say that. We basically ran the same offense in 2017, but teams realized all you needed to do was sit on Beasley’s out routes and double him. The offense was essentially exposed. They still were good because the OL and RG were still dominant and they could mask Dak’s warts.

 

[SoBlue128]

I can tell you one thing throwing the ball almost 50 times is not his ceiling. His absolute ceiling is 30-35 passes and that's pushing it. 25-30 passes with a strong run game is how you win with this QB yet we keep pressing to make him a gunslinger.

 

[khiladi]

Sad turns into horrified when we see his salary cap hits the next 2 seasons.

The “no trade” clause is the worst part. How drunk we Jerry when they got him in the office to sign the contract?

 

[nate dizzle]

The guy is still chasing the ghost of his rookie season 7 years later.

His numbers his rookie season, aside from INTs, were middle of the pack.

It was the efficiency that made that offense good and him look good leading it. He took what the defense gave him instead of trying to be Mahomes like he does now.

He was Cooper Rush, but he could also run.

 

[khiladi]

Contracts are meant to be broken. Time to sit Dak down and tell him to waive his no trade clause and find an amicable new team. His time in Dallas has run its course.

I’m with you. If he refuses, just bench him. A sunk cost is a sunk cost.

 

[khiladi]

He was Cooper Rush, but he could also run.

No, defenses just figured it out.

In 2017, Beasley was bracketed, sat on, and otherwise eliminated in the passing game. Opponenets keyed on his out-breaking routes and planted defenders accordingly. Cole Beasley saw more second-man attention than Dez Bryant last season (Dez technically appeared to get more double-teams but Cole clearly commanded more attention).

Fact of the matter is your tendencies are going to get exposed.

https://sportdfw.com/2018/05/20/cowboys-bounce-back-season-real-problem-cole-beasley/amp/

 

[Risen Star]

He's 29 years old and has been in the league 7 seasons. This is his prime.

Enjoy.

 

[IAmLegend]

There’ve been some NFL QB’s who improved considerably in their 30’s, so I’m holding out hope he’s one of them. But I’m certainly not holding my breath. Dak turns 30 in a few months and is more than likely who he’s shown us to be for years now, an inconsistent but solid QB who typically looks good against bad teams, but who always underperforms against good ones, and just isn’t very clutch. Nice guy, but nowhere near worth his contract and not the person who’s gonna lead you to the promised land. When the chips are down, more times than not he’s going to fold.

 

[blueblood70]

I think so. By year seven you are what you are.

Dak proponents want to compare him to Romo getting better as the years went by, but Romo was a fundamentally different QB than Dak in just his second year of starting. He was a pro-set QB who threw receivers open. Sure, he was a "gunslinger" and made a number of mistakes (the 5 interception performance against Buffalo an example, even though he did lead the team back to win), but as he matured, he toned down those mistakes. His fundamental mental abilities and skills never significantly changed. They just got a bit more polished.

you mean lead the team back like a 14point lead late..right ..its dak issue not the defense, penalties, and coaching decisions. Refs maybe, just Dak i guess , all the dak hate posts say its true it must be,..lmao

 

[Redline360]

His best year was his rookie season overall. Played great behind zeke leading the way and the defense doing its thing. He drove the bus almost perfectly.

He put up fantastic numbers and was improving prior to his injury. However stats mean nothing in the long run and become empty once you look at the bigger picture and understand the game. After his injury and what Denver discovered to the rest of the NFL, Dak has looked average at best bar a game here and there.

We will never see rookie Dak again if they continue to trot him out there as some elite quarterback like mahomes or Allen

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

He never had a prime.

 

[Nav22]

Yeah, he'll never be as good as a Justin Herbert.

Remember when Dak ONLY SCORED 17 vs the 49ers in the playoffs?

Herbert played the 49ers last night and I didn't even bother to watch, because I KNEW the Chargers would light them up!

How many points did the Chargers score, for those of you who watched???

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Has Dak reached the pinnacle of his growth or is he still developing and maturing? I personally think what we see is what we get. Curious what others think.

Dak is still growing.
By year 10 he will have mastered the over-shoulder pass!
By year 12 he will be able to lead the WR to the ball.
By year 14 he will be able to read a defense.
By year 16 he will own the Dallas Cowboys.
By year 17 the Dallas Cowboys will be playing in Tiajuana for the locals....