Dak's conditioning this year

blueblood70

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He looked heavy. he lost his movement. He couldn't run for first downs. He didn't play in pre-season. And he ends up with a season-ending hamstring injury on a non-contact play.

Was he ever in good condition this year?
Give me non contact like you mean one step taken by Aaron Rodgers and he blows his Achilles out and everybody blames the turf or they say it's a rough sport that happens believe it or not the human body is frail and at some point it gives out yes non contact you mean like are we saying that guys like Sean Lee who got hurt a lot some of it was non contact acls Achilles hamstrings you can have non contact they're all things that you cut and turn on and you're telling me that he didn't do any of that the game the man was running more than he did all season in this game and we give him a lack of respect as if he didn't do anything to hurt it like it's a conspiracy because of his damn weight no this is a game people get hurt all the time and a lot of them do get hurt on contact did you see Patrick mahomes pull up oh and by the way you wanna bring up an added shape dad bought of a quarterback that would be Patrick mahomes have you seen the dude with a shirt off I guarantee you put them side by side with their boxers on only Prescott's gonna be in a lot better shape than Patrick mahomes Tom Brady Ben Roethlisberger and one Tony Romo that look like a 50 year old golfer...

This non contact nonsense it happens all the time in sports you don't need contact for these type of injuries I mean you can sneeze and throw your back out I mean literally you can get hurt sneezing I mean it's a known fact yes even people in great shape the human body is an odd thing it can take a lot of abuse but at times the weirdest stuff causes injuries...
 

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He looked heavy. he lost his movement. He couldn't run for first downs. He didn't play in pre-season. And he ends up with a season-ending hamstring injury on a non-contact play.

Was he ever in good condition this year?
You mean non contact like what was that injury to the San Francisco linebacker being really dumb jumping up and down cheering his team on on the sideline and blew his leg out literally non contact the man was just jumping coming down you're telling me that Prescott wasn't running cutting and getting tackled the whole game and that it can happen when that happens I mean you don't need to be hit hard that would be a concussion that will be getting the air knocked out of you or getting your leg twisted but ACL Achilles hamstrings they're all happen without big contact those are just cutting running diving doing things that are sports related that's how you get hurt that's how you get those kind of injuries,....
 

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I don't think his conditioning was the issue at all. Dak is fixated on his craft, and is known to work like a mad man in the offseason.

The issue is that he's built like a full back and that body type doesn't always age so well when it comes to speed and agility. Big thick hips. No amt of exercise is going to change his basic body type. Also when you have a big muscular frame it puts a lot more torque on joints and soft tissue. Look at Anthony Richardson. Guy can't play 20 minutes of football w/out getting hurt.

Sometimes this forum is a shark tank when it conjures up things to blame.
he has never been a "fluid" athlete - he's always just been a slowly accelerating bull - totally agree with your assessment. Now at least he was still a threat, because you dont need to be a 4.4 40 to be a thread, just agile and quick enough. Sadly those days are gone.
 

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I know he's had ankle surgery in the past and it's quite possibly the same old injury that's causing his sluggishness. In fact, he's never been quick nor fast enough to be a real threat in his running. Anyhow, I suspect it's that same ankle problem that has never fully healed, though.
 

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I don't see how anyone can say that conditioning had nothing to do with this injury. Are you telling me that someone who sits on his couch (not saying that's what Dak did) for months and then sprints as hard as he can is no more likely to injure a hamstring than someone who regularly runs sprints?

My guess is that he hasn't been able to run and condition the way he should due to that ankle. Again, he had to wear a boot to go deep sea fishing, for crying out loud.

And sprinting is totally different from throwing a football, as we all should know. But any football player should be sprinting regularly. I doubt he was able to.
 

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He looked heavy. he lost his movement. He couldn't run for first downs. He didn't play in pre-season. And he ends up with a season-ending hamstring injury on a non-contact play.

Was he ever in good condition this year?
Maybe he should work out with Hurts during the offseason.
 

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No excuses. I just felt he wasn’t right in his movement. I’ve been training for over 40 years, you see things
We agree that he wasn't right. He had a brace on a month before the season and tried to wave it off. Shannon Sharpe always says, "If you limp into the season, you're going to limp out of it." You're not going to heal playing professional football.
 

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had nothing to do with this injury.
its not like he held out and went to the beach.
ceedee's hold out in camp screwed with their qb/wr chemistry.
dak's conditioning had nothing to do with the hamstring injury.
 

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I don't think his conditioning was the issue at all. Dak is fixated on his craft, and is known to work like a mad man in the offseason.

The issue is that he's built like a full back and that body type doesn't always age so well when it comes to speed and agility. Big thick hips. No amt of exercise is going to change his basic body type. Also when you have a big muscular frame it puts a lot more torque on joints and soft tissue. Look at Anthony Richardson. Guy can't play 20 minutes of football w/out getting hurt.

Sometimes this forum is a shark tank when it conjures up things to blame.
Yeah...usually things are conjured up when it comes to Dak.
 

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He’s not into football. He got his payday, new house, new wife and kid. He’d be playing better if he didn’t get that contract.

I was also surprised he hasn’t been running, the broken leg was a few years ago. It’s clear he wasn’t in running shape. He was playing to not get hurt, 3 steps and throw the ball. That’s why it’s so ironic he tore a hammy throwing the ball. I hope it gets better and he doesn’t need surgery because then he will never run.
 

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I think he had the injury all along , just not to this severity. and they knew it. . I don’t expect to ever see him again with this team.
especially not this season
:hammer: I'm expecting him to retire.....He just doesn't have the ability to run anymore. Just like Romo....when it was time.....It's time. Father time is still undefeated....
 

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I’m 52 and regularly do sprint training, as well. I’ve popped a hammy here and there.

Hamstrings injuries are incredibly common amongst professional athletes. My personal opinion is that professional athletes spend enormous amounts of time on their bodies. It’s what gets them paid. I think injuries happen for these guys mostly because of bad luck and genetics. Sure, an athlete can lose motivation and that can certainly affect training habits, but with professional athletes that’s not the reason I would goto right from the rip.

Zion Williamson has been pulling hammies for years. He just did it again the other day. Sure, he could lose weight, and I’ll admit he does look chunky at times, but he also has genetically gifted athleticism that generates enormous amounts of energy harbored inside a body that is thick and huge, even if he is as lean as he can be. It’s what made him such an anomaly for the game of basketball. I also think that just makes Zion injury prone, too.

With Dak, you don’t have that obviously. You have age and a body that is not built to last for a QB. That’s the reason I would go with first and foremost above Dak mailing it in, anyway.

Zion Williamson carrying too much weight .
 

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:hammer: I'm expecting him to retire.....He just doesn't have the ability to run anymore. Just like Romo....when it was time.....It's time. Father time is still undefeated....
He knows the job is way over his head and baby it shows big time.
One look at his face during games tells the tale of a man who is underqualified for the Job.
He also knows he has very little respect from his teammates and he is no fool he understands the whispers and shop talking is all pretty much about his most underserving paychecks.
Our only hope is he and Jerry can reach a retirement deal and he can ride off into the sunset blaming injuries and we can proceed to search for a new and real franchise QB.
 

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He knows the job is way over his head and baby it shows big time.
One look at his face during games tells the tale of a man who is underqualified for the Job.
He also knows he has very little respect from his teammates and he is no fool he understands the whispers and shop talking is all pretty much about his most underserving paychecks.
Our only hope is he and Jerry can reach a retirement deal and he can ride off into the sunset blaming injuries and we can proceed to search for a new and real franchise QB.
He was the only thing good about this team. And you wanna bury him. Cooper Rush proved it yesterday. Prescott way overachieved with his group of sucky receivers. I’m sorry he took over for your hero.
But in reality, he’s one of the best quarterbacks in the league, and Cooper Rush proved it yesterday. Our team sucks.
 

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I don't think his conditioning was the issue at all. Dak is fixated on his craft, and is known to work like a mad man in the offseason.

The issue is that he's built like a full back and that body type doesn't always age so well when it comes to speed and agility. Big thick hips. No amt of exercise is going to change his basic body type. Also when you have a big muscular frame it puts a lot more torque on joints and soft tissue. Look at Anthony Richardson. Guy can't play 20 minutes of football w/out getting hurt.

Sometimes this forum is a shark tank when it conjures up things to blame.
Yeah any idiot who thinks that lack of conditioning has anything to do with pulling muscles needs to just go ahead and set fire to their computer. In fact there is an argument to be made that OVER conditioning contributes more to pulled muscles than UNDER. The theory being that when guys overtrain they get too tightly wound and their muscles are a ticking time bomb. I have pulled muscles in both hammies and a calf or two.

I have also suffered the torn hammie like what Dak did. I was literally (say it with me now) in the best shape of my life. I had been training to try out for the USFL and was down to sub 5% body fat and was running in the 4.3's. In short.. I was ready to go make the team and live my dream. One weekend I went out to our usual spot where the guys met up to play our weekly sandlot game and they had already started. I rushed through stretching and jumped right in on defense after not nearly enough stretching. The QB saw that I was not warmed up and thought he would try me. He heaved the ball deep and his guy, who was not anywhere near as fast as I was, thought it was overthrown (it was) and gave up quickly. I on the other hand saw it as an opportunity to get a pick and show off my speed so I hit the accelerator and went after the ball. On about my 4th or 5th stride it felt like someone had shot me in the leg and I went down in a heap. The guys were like "You OK?" I was like "HELL NO I'M NOT OK!!!!" The back of my leg felt like Jello.My car was a 5-speed manny and it was my left leg so driving home was a real adventure. I literally cried out in pain every time I had to clutch.

Like most guys, I had no interest in going to the doctor for what I thought was a routine pulled hammie. I waited the requisite 4 weeks before trying to run again and every time I tried, the thing seized up again. After another 2-3 weeks I broke down and went to the doctor. That's when he told me I had torn it away from the bone but since I was not a professional athlete (that stung) AND I had given it proper rest I didn't need surgery. What I did need was a YEAR before I could run full speed again. Hopefully Dak doesn't have to wait that long.
 
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