Dak's Contract screwed us!

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It’s not Dak’s responsibility to assess any player’s value except his own. Dak has been with the Cowboys long enough to know the team’s owner is not aggressive in the free agent market. Only an idiot would consider giving Jerry Jones a discount to sign players he will never sign.

Jerry Jones offered Dak Prescott the contract he agreed to. Cowboys fans are angry the team’s quarterback is smart enough to hire representation smarter than the team’s owner. Prescott is here, he’ll be the quarterback of the Cowboys for the foreseeable future, and all the whining and angry posts in the world is not going to change it. The Cowboys have a decent quarterback and a bad owner. It’s the cross Cowboys fans will continue to bear for years.
Let it go. Dak sux!
 

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It’s not Dak’s responsibility to assess any player’s value except his own. Dak has been with the Cowboys long enough to know the team’s owner is not aggressive in the free agent market. Only an idiot would consider giving Jerry Jones a discount to sign players he will never sign.

Jerry Jones offered Dak Prescott the contract he agreed to. Cowboys fans are angry the team’s quarterback is smart enough to hire representation smarter than the team’s owner. Prescott is here, he’ll be the quarterback of the Cowboys for the foreseeable future, and all the whining and angry posts in the world is not going to change it. The Cowboys have a decent quarterback and a bad owner. It’s the cross Cowboys fans will continue to bear for years.
Some Cowboys fans would still like to believe that Jerry has had this strong desire for years to be more active and aggressive in free agency and that Dak is the one who has held him back from doing so. If this were the case, then Jerry could have as I said decided not to sign Dak this season and let him walk. Then start off the next offseason by drafting a QB and starting to use free agency over the next few years to build around that young QB.

Nothing stands in the way of Jerry Jones having his way with the team if he really wants something. So if he wanted to spend more money in free agency, then he would eventually find a way to make that happen. But some fans are still clinging to the hope that Jerry has wanted for years to spend more money in free agency and load up the team through trading for top players from other teams. And that he is just waiting to replace Dak in order to set his plan of being more active in free agency into motion.

Dak didn't hold Jerry hostage and force him to extend him. And isn't holding Jerry hostage from deciding to move on from him, since Jerry and Stephen has used Dak's contract as an excuse for years for why they couldn't be more active in FA. And some fans continue to buy into what the Joneses are telling them. Yet if this were the case. then Jerry had ample opportunity over the offseason to move on from Dak, if Dak's contract is truly the reason for why they can't explore the top players in free agency and if they genuinely had a strong desire to start building the roster through free agency and doing so around a young QB.

But it could actually be that they preferred to resign Dak. Because moving on from him would no longer allow them to use his contract as a shield for why they are so cheap when it comes to free agency. And Dak being gone would heighten the spotlight back to the front office, as they would feel more pressure to draft the right QB and build around that QB to give him the best chance at succeeding and eventually leading the Cowboys to a Super Bowl. They know how another QB change with the same postseason failures, would prove that the front office is still the problem no matter who the QB is.
 

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Dak at his best isn’t a top ten QB. I hope he never plays again. I can’t stand the sight of him acting like he is a top tier player. The gap between Dak and (Mahomes, Allen, Burrow) is huge. He should not be making half of what those three are paid!
We've been here before. It's comical that all falls on Dak and a runaway narrative is just on him.
Maybe some are too young but let's go over the list and perspectives, from our prior QB's play:
No rings
2-4 playoff record
5 straight years missing the playoffs (2009-2014)
8-8 records for 3 straight years lost "Win & Get In the Playoffs" games to each NFC East rival, in consecutive years.
Injuries (he left it on the field.....no accusations of quitting, faking injuries)
No sole blame to a Minnesota playoff beating 34-3, despite 1 int, 2 fumbles lost.
Got 5 contract adjustments (in all fairness, he earned contract adjustments)
$108 million contract at the time......making him the highest paid QB, at such time, effective 2013 (still in playoff drought) (Hmmm).
At the time of new & big contract.....one playoff win in 9 seasons. (Hmmm).
Owner's "son" as far as Jerry's affection

But.....we love you Tony, we don't like Dak!! 5,4,3,2, 1........
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We've been here before. It's comical that all falls on Dak and a runaway narrative is just on him.
Maybe some are too young but let's go over the list and perspectives, from our prior QB's play:
No rings
2-4 playoff record
5 straight years missing the playoffs (2009-2014)
8-8 records for 3 straight years lost "Win & Get In the Playoffs" games to each NFC East rival, in consecutive years.
Injuries (he left it on the field.....no accusations of quitting, faking injuries)
No sole blame to a Minnesota playoff beating 34-3, despite 1 int, 2 fumbles lost.
Got 5 contract adjustments (in all fairness, he earned contract adjustments)
$108 million contract at the time......making him the highest paid QB, at such time, effective 2013 (still in playoff drought) (Hmmm).
At the time of new & big contract.....one playoff win in 9 seasons. (Hmmm).
Owner's "son" as far as Jerry's affection

But.....we love you Tony, we don't like Dak!! 5,4,3,2, 1........
R.8230232139c98cba6e62fdce854d6744
We haven’t had a QB in Dallas since Aikman. Get over your Dak love.
 

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We haven’t had a QB in Dallas since Aikman. Get over your Dak love.
If we're going to call it right......I definitely agree that Troy was the man. As for the Dak love, is it because you surmise, I must be a Romo hater to make some points about the Beloved's tenure?

What's your take on Tony Romo's career?
 

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If we're going to call it right......I definitely agree that Troy was the man. As for the Dak love, is it because you surmise, I must be a Romo hater to make some points about the Beloved's tenure?

What's your take on Tony Romo's career?
In one word….average. While I do think he was better than Dak, he also choked in the big games.
 

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Like anybody here would willingly turn down a big raise from their employer.

Your employer offers you a 20k raise for next year, you saying no, I will take only half of that and be happy.

I highly doubt it…….Like I said, I don’t blame Dak for cashing in, I blame Jerry for offering that ridiculous contract to begin with.
Nothing wrong at all with how and what he did on a personal. Good for him, personally.

My take was from the perspective of caring about the product around you [Dak]. Maybe that doesn't matter to him in the slightest.
 

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Exactly. Qb pay has got to be addressed in the next CBA. There are 52 other guys on the roster that need to get paid. It's unfair for Qbs to suck down so much cap in a team sport.
I don’t think the CBA is the issue. I think that stupid GMs are the problem.
 

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Two biggest mistakes Jerry ever made in Dallas was letting Jimmy Johnson walk out and signing Dak to this contract.

Jerry basically sealed the deal that the Cowboys will not win a SB while Jerry is alive.

If a Cowboy's fan ever wanted to take a break from the NFL, well now is a pretty good time to do that.
 

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In one word….average. While I do think he was better than Dak, he also choked in the big games.
Ok...and I fully respect that. My point, with no disparaging intent......there is no real difference between our two past QBs, when it comes to getting close to the prize......there's been hope, then moments of despair, in the biggest of moments and forced to carry the load. One seems to be liked over the other......but doesn't change or move the needle one bit different, regarding playoff success. Just wish some would understand we need more than just our QB to do so or to be held accountable, alone.
 

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Ok...and I fully respect that. My point, with no disparaging intent......there is no real difference between our two past QBs, when it comes to getting close to the prize......there's been hope, then moments of despair, in the biggest of moments and forced to carry the load. One seems to be liked over the other......but doesn't change or move the needle one bit different, regarding playoff success. Just wish some would understand we need more than just our QB to do so or to be held accountable, alone.
Do you think a QB can elevate the play of others around him?
 

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Do you think a QB can elevate the play of others around him?
Sure.....given some decent talent......Yesterday we saw Josh Allen do so with the offense, on the other hand we saw #10 (Shakir) and #1 (Samuels) step up to help Josh, in turn. But that's kind of tricky. I.E.....I don't think one player, as a QB, can simply carry his team alone, also. We've seen Mahomes struggle by his standards all year and get by, until the D finally gave up 30 pts, for the first time in more than a year. And we certainly saw his OL breakdown yesterday. Kinda tricky.
 

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Sure.....given some decent talent......Yesterday we saw Josh Allen do so with the offense, on the other hand we saw #10 (Shakir) and #1 (Samuels) step up to help Josh, in turn. But that's kind of tricky. I.E.....I don't think one player, as a QB, can simply carry his team alone, also. We've seen Mahomes struggle by his standards all year and get by, until the D finally gave up 30 pts, for the first time in more than a year. And we certainly saw his OL breakdown yesterday. Kinda tricky.
We can agree to disagree. It matters on offense, defense and special teams when the TEAM knows they’re never out of a game with the right QB under center. I’ve ask this question many times on this board and never got an answer. How many games since Dak became the starter, have we come back when we got down 10 points or more at any point during a game? I can’t remember ONE. Only players who’ve been on the field know what I’m talking about. Players say the right things but those who know…know.
 

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Again!!! Why blame Dak. If the Ghoul gives you a 60-million-dollar check. Are you turning it down????? I'm sure not......
 

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We can agree to disagree. It matters on offense, defense and special teams when the TEAM knows they’re never out of a game with the right QB under center. I’ve ask this question many times on this board and never got an answer. How many games since Dak became the starter, have we come back when we got down 10 points or more at any point during a game? I can’t remember ONE. Only players who’ve been on the field know what I’m talking about. Players say the right things but those who know…know.
Most notably that comes to mind in the playoffs......The GB game where Aaron Rodgers led his team downfield with 35 seconds on the clock....we had been down 21-3.....tied the game at 34 after trailing all game, then we go into a prevent defense and Byron Jones lets' TE Jarod Cook do a toe-tapper to set up a 51 yd game winner. He's done it, to name a playoff game. We'll never know what happens if Crosby missed the game winner.

Now if you want to examine the other games.....have at it if you're dissecting every game he's played. All kind of ways to look at it. In no way am I suggesting Dak's hasn't been responsible for failures in games too.

Tony Romo has been called "Captain Comeback" minus the playoffs, and "Tony Ohno". For that matter Tony Romo's playoff record could easily be 2-7 instead of a safe 2-4, if we count the three straight last games of the season to get into the playoffs. But we can't do that. Now you'll probably think I'm hating on Romo.....honestly, I'm not.

And if players say the right things but those who know....know.....Micah Parsons has been questioned about his playoff performances routinely now, and Cee Dee checked out early against GB last year. Players should know that too.
 

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I don’t think the CBA is the issue. I think that stupid GMs are the problem.
There needs to be a salary cap on QBs within the salary cap in order to preserve some kind of fairness. Team salary structures are too top heavy now. Not sure why the NFLPA would not want to more fairly distribute cap money amongst more players.
 

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Again!!! Why blame Dak. If the Ghoul gives you a 60-million-dollar check. Are you turning it down????? I'm sure not......
Dak could have taken a more team friendly deal. His reason for asking for so much money was " to be fair to his QB brethren". He cared more about the other QBs in the league making bank than his own team. Well, you see the result. He is not going to have the supporting cast anymore. Can't afford it.
 

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Dak‘s contract doomed the franchise for the foreseeable future. Anyone could see that before he signed except our senile GM.
 

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It’s not Dak’s responsibility to assess any player’s value except his own. Dak has been with the Cowboys long enough to know the team’s owner is not aggressive in the free agent market. Only an idiot would consider giving Jerry Jones a discount to sign players he will never sign.

Jerry Jones offered Dak Prescott the contract he agreed to. Cowboys fans are angry the team’s quarterback is smart enough to hire representation smarter than the team’s owner. Prescott is here, he’ll be the quarterback of the Cowboys for the foreseeable future, and all the whining and angry posts in the world is not going to change it. The Cowboys have a decent quarterback and a bad owner. It’s the cross Cowboys fans will continue to bear for years.
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