Dak's No Trade Clause

[Diehardblues]

Drafting his replacement. Telling Dak that draft choice will play and be the starter, thus forcing Dak's hand at the no trade clause.
Bout the only way to force the issue.

And you believe Jethro and Son are going to force the issue with Prescott as such?

 

[nobody]

Apparently our dysfunctional ownership doesn’t view us as stuck. They appear intent on retaining Prescott for another 10 years.

Ugh, don't remind me. It boggles my mind how clueless they are and how little they value the QB situation with development and backups.

 

[Swagger]

Things are a lot worse on most of the other teams.

So most other teams are lumbered with paying elite money via a no trade clause to an average, banged up, immobile quarterback who struggles to read defenses with a fake personality, cringeworthy 'leadership' (fist pumping another three and out series) and crumbles under pressure?

 

[rambo2]

So most other teams are lumbered with paying elite money via a no trade clause to an average, banged up, immobile quarterback who struggles to read defenses with a fake personality, cringeworthy 'leadership' (fist pumping another three and out series) and crumbles under pressure?

Lol, I hope he wins next year. Just for guys like you.

 

[jaythecowboy]

I think we could get a 1st for him. Acquiring team gets him for 2 years, 30m per. That’s a bargain today.

If Wentz got the Eagles a 1st Dak definitely worth at least that. The issue is the franchise tag (and finding the right replacement qb).

 

[jaythecowboy]

Jerry will of course do so, but you do not restructure or extend Dak unless you want to guarantee him being here long term. You need to eat away at that cap hit and make a decision in a year or two if he is the long term answer or not. This is not to say he definitely is or isn’t, just that it isn’t 100% clear right now.

First thing is restructure or extend Martin. $12M restructure split over the same 4 years he already has a cap hit in will clear $9M. Then you can designate Zeke a post 6/1 cut. This clears $10.9M. Then you do the same with Tyron if you need the extra cap space. This clears $13.6M. this team can have plenty of cap space to operate even without touching Dak’s contract. There are other contracts that can be looked at also and any new signings will be backloaded (expect Pollard if tagged). Do this and you can operate without much issue next year and if you decide to still keep Dak you still have the ability to sign him but also are in a healthier cap position.

If the Cowboys do that they aren’t doing anything in free agency and are losing their own guys like Kearse. The cap moves you suggested would just pay for the draft class and let us get free agents off the scrap heap post-June 1.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Jerry will of course do so, but you do not restructure or extend Dak unless you want to guarantee him being here long term. You need to eat away at that cap hit and make a decision in a year or two if he is the long term answer or not. This is not to say he definitely is or isn’t, just that it isn’t 100% clear right now.

First thing is restructure or extend Martin. $12M restructure split over the same 4 years he already has a cap hit in will clear $9M. Then you can designate Zeke a post 6/1 cut. This clears $10.9M. Then you do the same with Tyron if you need the extra cap space. This clears $13.6M. this team can have plenty of cap space to operate even without touching Dak’s contract. There are other contracts that can be looked at also and any new signings will be backloaded (expect Pollard if tagged). Do this and you can operate without much issue next year and if you decide to still keep Dak you still have the ability to sign him but also are in a healthier cap position.

Second paragraph....spot on. The concern is how a 30 year old Dak is going to establish his long term credentials, when he was unable to do so on his cheap CAP years. It's that Dak Paradox again, he's good but needs a strong supporting roster that can provide him security, however, his CAP% Hit means we arent able to fill the roster with the necessary depth.

But to be fair, he's here in 2023 and i'd restructure some of the contract into 2024 and the Void year (2025), just to give him a fighting 'prove it' season.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Drafting his replacement. Telling Dak that draft choice will play and be the starter, thus forcing Dak's hand at the no trade clause.
Bout the only way to force the issue.

There is no way in hell a player making $49 million dollars is going to be sitting on the bench.

That is an empty threat that Dak and his agent both know will not happen.

 

[Jarntt]

If the Cowboys do that they aren’t doing anything in free agency and are losing their own guys like Kearse. The cap moves you suggested would just pay for the draft class and let us get free agents off the scrap heap post-June 1.

You are totally wrong. The moves I mentioned free up $33M (We are like $7M over now). If that isn't enough for you there are other contracts we could look at before Dak's as well. Free agent contracts are backloaded so the year one cap hit (which would be this year) is always much lower than the average annual value. Lastly Kearse isn't even a free agent.

 

[BoysForLife]

And you believe Jethro and Son are going to force the issue with Prescott as such?

I agree with you they won't

But the poster is correct. That's an easy way to force daks hand and effectively void the no trade clause

Everybody acting like that no trade clause is impossible to work around isn't being honest. If the cowboys employed the strategy being discussed Dak would waive the clause instantly

 

[Cowboys1966]

There is no way in hell a player making $49 million dollars is going to be sitting on the bench.

That is an empty threat that Dak and his agent both know will not happen.

Never say never. At the end, Wentz and his big contract were on the bench.

 

[jterrell]

It's pretty inevitable that Jerry is going to extend Dak. Between his 2023 cap hit being untenable and being able to cite two playoff births and one win (I know it's not good enough for us but it is for Jerry) since signing the deal, it's going to happen. I don't know much about the contract process but I'm curious if they can nix that no trade clause when they do an extension/restructure, or does it stay in automatically?

I guess it's pretty counterintuitive to think that Jerry would trade Dak when he will almost certainly extend him, but it would be nice if the FO at least had the option, especially if they can somehow luck into a good QB in the draft since it sounds like QB will finally become a priority in the draft again. I do think that the second Jerry has any sort of a health scare that we may see the urgency to win ramp up considerably and he may actually consider trying to upgrade at the QB position, especially if we have another one and done playoff year. Or maybe just wishful thinking on my part.

They won't remove the trade clause because it is just a restructure/extension of current deal.
To remove that clause they'd have to cough up significant money.

It isn't a big deal anyway as Dak can wave it at anytime and you essentially need his agreement anyway to make any trade because no team is taking him in at his deal disgruntled.

Fans need to get a grip on real life though.
Dallas won 25 games the last 2 years and did so spending nearly nothing in free agency.
They aren't dumping a franchise QB as his salary falls out of 10 this off-season.
The thing to watch with Dak is does he get any new money.
If not then they could move on next off-season.
But realistically, I don't see them having the stomach to eat that much dead cap without a top 10 pick to use on a QB.

Dallas made it the same distance as Buffalo this year. They weren't a top 4 team and didn't make it to the Conf Finals because of that.
Getting worse at QB isn't going to help get there next year unless you recoup ALL that cap space.

 

[jterrell]

And you believe Jethro and Son are going to force the issue with Prescott as such?

His nonsense is the dumbest take ever and no it doesn't force anything.
Just as it hasn't in San Fran or Green Bay.

AR will pick his post and Derek Carr forced a release.

Fans have IQs in the toilet and it is sad.

Dak has to sign a restructured deal or they pay 50M on cap for him.
QBs have the leverage, always.

 

[Qcard]

It's pretty inevitable that Jerry is going to extend Dak. Between his 2023 cap hit being untenable and being able to cite two playoff births and one win (I know it's not good enough for us but it is for Jerry) since signing the deal, it's going to happen. I don't know much about the contract process but I'm curious if they can nix that no trade clause when they do an extension/restructure, or does it stay in automatically?

I guess it's pretty counterintuitive to think that Jerry would trade Dak when he will almost certainly extend him, but it would be nice if the FO at least had the option, especially if they can somehow luck into a good QB in the draft since it sounds like QB will finally become a priority in the draft again. I do think that the second Jerry has any sort of a health scare that we may see the urgency to win ramp up considerably and he may actually consider trying to upgrade at the QB position, especially if we have another one and done playoff year. Or maybe just wishful thinking on my part.

Amari Cooper wishes he had a No Trade Clause

 

[Retro88]

The sooner you guys realize that no amount of crying is gonna change the fact that Dak is the QB for the long unforseeable future the sooner more interesting convos can be had.

 

[Qcard]

They won't remove the trade clause because it is just a restructure/extension of current deal.
To remove that clause they'd have to cough up significant money.

It isn't a big deal anyway as Dak can wave it at anytime and you essentially need his agreement anyway to make any trade because no team is taking him in at his deal disgruntled.

Fans need to get a grip on real life though.
Dallas won 25 games the last 2 years and did so spending nearly nothing in free agency.
They aren't dumping a franchise QB as his salary falls out of 10 this off-season.
The thing to watch with Dak is does he get any new money.
If not then they could move on next off-season.
But realistically, I don't see them having the stomach to eat that much dead cap without a top 10 pick to use on a QB.

Dallas made it the same distance as Buffalo this year. They weren't a top 4 team and didn't make it to the Conf Finals because of that.
Getting worse at QB isn't going to help get there next year unless you recoup ALL that cap space.

Just a Great Post

But to be fair the Dak Haters would say Cooper Rush and Andy Dalton are worth 4 to 25 of those Wins in a Trade

 

[jterrell]

The sooner you guys realize that no amount of crying is gonna change the fact that Dak is the QB for the long unforseeable future the sooner more interesting convos can be had.

Exactly.
All the crying nonsense in the world changes zero.
You scored a ton of points and won 12 games then a playoff game.
Like 20 other teams would kill to be in this position where you are tweaking a team to jump to conference Finals level.

Dak wasn't going to drag a team with the 24th ranked OL and 18th ranked WR corps past a good SF defense.
This team had an upper limit and ran up against it.

We can all wish we had Mahomes (and I noted WHEN HE WAS IN THE DRAFT that he would be the guy I'd dump Dak for) but mere mortals aren't dragging a weak team to a Super Bowl.

Its hilarious to see goofies list 10-12 QBs better than Dak when only 4 made it farther than he did this year.

 

[Retro88]

Exactly.
All the crying nonsense in the world changes zero.
You scored a ton of points and won 12 games then a playoff game.
Like 20 other teams would kill to be in this position where you are tweaking a team to jump to conference Finals level.

Dak wasn't going to drag a team with the 24th ranked OL and 18th ranked WR corps past a good SF defense.
This team had an upper limit and ran up against it.

We can all wish we had Mahomes (and I noted WHEN HE WAS IN THE DRAFT that he would be the guy I'd dump Dak for) but mere mortals aren't dragging a weak team to a Super Bowl.

Its hilarious to see goofies list 10-12 QBs better than Dak when only 4 made it farther than he did this year.

Dak deserves some criticism but the constant crying and over exaggeration is beyond annoying. This is only proving everyone right when they talk about cowboys fans. The real truth is they don't like him bc he's not "elite". Not to mention they like to pretend that they don't know how the QB market works. Pretending that it's not gonna continue that way and QBs will be "overpaid" going forward into eternity.

 

[jterrell]

Dak deserves some criticism but the constant crying and over exaggeration is beyond annoying. This is only proving everyone right when they talk about cowboys fans. The real truth is they don't like him bc he's not "elite". Not to mention they like to pretend that they don't know how the QB market works. Pretending that it's not gonna continue that way and QBs will be "overpaid" going forward into eternity.

Exactly.
Dak tried to be the hero wayyy too much this year but he has literally never done that before.
His career TD to INT ratio is superb.

He isn't Mahomes and will need help but Rodgers didn't even make the playoffs and Dak beat the brakes off Tom Brady's Bucs.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Extend him for another 7 years I mean how can we miss those unique plays of this top-notch caliber QB that we have.....

Lollipop arm.