Dak's selfishness has doomed us

CowboyFrog

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Look what's important here is the brotherhood is secure.

And if you don't like that, you can just get off the bandwagon.
I mean the GM said we are saving Zeke....all in, write any check, he is the ONLY one who can do this job, for 28 years he has been gaslighting you.....the QB is just his latest adventure in your torture....
 

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i don’t know anyone willing to take less money than their company will give them. It’s not his fault Stephen is the worst contact man this side of the Cleveland guy.

McClay and co work in a shiny new facility, prob just watch the cheerleaders work out and say “you’re the best Jerry” And move on with their day
 

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I'm sorry do the Cowboys have $20+m in cap space or not? They could have done absolutely anything they wanted to in the offseason and chose not to. It has nothing to do with Dak.

As usual, this thread is just a bunch of "adults" whining about another man's money.
 

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Who gets to decided what is excess and what is greed? You???

If you are selling your house. Your agent runs comps says it's worth $500,000 and a bidding war starts due to supply and demand and someone offers $550,000 are you going to tell them they over bid and can have it for $500K???

I did not think so. Thank you very much.
If selling the House at $500,000 allows the buyer to offer me cover my moving expenses, my sales tax liability and take care of the closing costs of my new house (you know.. all the support stuff I would need after closing the deal) ... yeah I am selling the house at $500K instead of $550K

If the dream house where I want to live is my goal I work on a deal that will allow me to get all the help possible to get there.
If I only care about selling the house to the highest bidder, I will even wait until the last minute to see how high the sale price can go.
 

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If selling the House at $500,000 allows the buyer to offer me cover my moving expenses, my sales tax liability and take care of the closing costs of my new house (you know.. all the support stuff I would need after closing the deal) ... yeah I am selling the house at $500K instead of $550K

If the dream house where I want to live is my goal I work on a deal that will allow me to get all the help possible to get there.
If I only care about selling the house to the highest bidder, I will even wait until the last minute to see how high the sale price can go.
Pretty sure cover is in the form of $'s correct.

So you are saying $500,000 + cover.

So once again you are not declining the more money.
 

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i don’t know anyone willing to take less money than their company will give them. It’s not his fault Stephen is the worst contact man this side of the Cleveland guy.

McClay and co work in a shiny new facility, prob just watch the cheerleaders work out and say “you’re the best Jerry” And move on with their day
Again, Joe Aaverage jobs can't compare to generational wealth occupations like professional athlete. We're not talking about them making a living. They've already made thousands of livings based upon what the vast majority of humanity have to accept.

And despite that, there are people who do take less money if they know that it will lead to unemployment if they don't.
 

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i don’t know anyone willing to take less money than their company will give them. It’s not his fault Stephen is the worst contact man this side of the Cleveland guy.

McClay and co work in a shiny new facility, prob just watch the cheerleaders work out and say “you’re the best Jerry” And move on with their day
When people question the Owner/GM/CEO they get let go 99.9% of the time. Even if they are correct in doing so.
 

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If Dak doesn't demand $60m/year, we have the money to resign any combination of Hankins, Fowler, Armstrong, Gilmore, Smith, and Pollard. They aren't big name players, but the played important roles on this team. Roles that clearly haven't been filled, and we're seeing the result on the field.
Had they signed Dak and CeeDee BEFORE FA started (to the exact deals they caved and gave them anyway), they would've had the $$$ and then some to pay for those players...THAT WERE ALL ON THE FIELD FOR THE GB DEBACLE!!!!! The FO is and will continue to be the #1 problem with this team. PERIOD!!!!! They refuse to try to find better than cheap talent.
 

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If Dak doesn't demand $60m/year, we have the money to resign any combination of Hankins, Fowler, Armstrong, Gilmore, Smith, and Pollard. They aren't big name players, but the played important roles on this team. Roles that clearly haven't been filled, and we're seeing the result on the field.
I wonder why or how we are currently $24M under the cap???

Maybe if we did not let Z. Martin rape us last year we would have some more money.

For some reason no one is upset about that.
 

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The Detroit Lions' roster currently has:
  • a QB making $53M (6th highest)
  • 2 RB's making $10M+ combined
  • the 4th highest paid WR
  • the 7th highest paid LT
  • 2nd highest paid C
  • 2 RG's making $12M+
  • the 2nd highest paid RT
  • the DT's make $15M+
  • Edge players making $18M+
  • LB's making $15M+
  • CB's making $25M+
  • only the S room is making "pennies" at $3M
The difference IS and will ALWAYS BE other FO's know how to spend money on the proper resources. The difference between our QB/WR duo and theirs is $11M (4% of the cap) in 2024 Cap Space (which is what D.J. Reader is making to anchor at NT so that Alim McNeil can make our now overpaid HOF RG look like his B).
 

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This thread is backwards..the man giving out the contracts doomed this, there is no other logical way to see it..he could've said no...instead he brought back Zeke and said yes...
 

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I’ve been saying this. Dak is just a thief. Plain and simple. He got his money. He doesn’t care, so even if we decide to get rid of him tomorrow, he’s still paid. He fooled and tricked everyone. I’m so tired of this clown and this FO.

I was so mad when they caved in and paid him. This is the dumbest move Jerry has ever made.
 

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I’ve been saying this. Dak is just a thief. Plain and simple. He got his money. He doesn’t care, so even if we decide to get rid of him tomorrow, he’s still paid. He fooled and tricked everyone. I’m so tired of this clown and this FO.

I was so mad when they caved in and paid him. This is the dumbest move Jerry has ever made.
cant rob the willing..Jerry was willing kinda like Zeke didnt rob him nor Zack Nor Jaylan, Nor Trey, Nor CD, Nor romo, Nor Dez...he had the power to say no in all these and didnt...cant rob a willing partner..
 

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The Detroit Lions' roster currently has:
  • a QB making $53M (6th highest)
  • 2 RB's making $10M+ combined
  • the 4th highest paid WR
  • the 7th highest paid LT
  • 2nd highest paid C
  • 2 RG's making $12M+
  • the 2nd highest paid RT
  • the DT's make $15M+
  • Edge players making $18M+
  • LB's making $15M+
  • CB's making $25M+
  • only the S room is making "pennies" at $3M
The difference IS and will ALWAYS BE other FO's know how to spend money on the proper resources. The difference between our QB/WR duo and theirs is $11M (4% of the cap) in 2024 Cap Space (which is what D.J. Reader is making to anchor at NT so that Alim McNeil can make our now overpaid HOF RG look like his B).
So what you are saying is building a team is more important than hero ball.

Wait that looks like a RB by committee. I thought those did not work. Both RB's have 75/66 carries for almost identical yardage.

Smart GM's also try to resign players early, before the salary cap goes up and before the player reaches their peak performance.

Players want security. If you make them wait, then they will make you pay. Not a hard concept to figure out.

If you negotiate early and can't get it done, you have bought yourself some time to draft a replacement or create a back up plan and you can trade that player.

What we do is absolutely nothing. We wait until we have zero options and right before the season starts to then maximize their contract, which creates cap space when no players are available.
 

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So what you are saying is building a team is more important than hero ball.

Wait that looks like a RB by committee. I thought those did not work. Both RB's have 75/66 carries for almost identical yardage.

Smart GM's also try to resign players early, before the salary cap goes up and before the player reaches their peak performance.

Players want security. If you make them wait, then they will make you pay. Not a hard concept to figure out.

If you negotiate early and can't get it done, you have bought yourself some time to draft a replacement or create a back up plan and you can trade that player.

What we do is absolutely nothing. We wait until we have zero options and right before the season starts to then maximize their contract, which creates cap space when no players are available.
:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

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i don’t know anyone willing to take less money than their company will give them. It’s not his fault Stephen is the worst contact man this side of the Cleveland guy.

McClay and co work in a shiny new facility, prob just watch the cheerleaders work out and say “you’re the best Jerry” And move on with their day
So the reason Dak hired Todd France as an agent was to prevent the Cowboys from forcing him to take too much money? Yup, without France, Jerry would of forced him to take even more than he did!
So Dak asked for a very reasonable salary but Jerry insisted on breaking the bank? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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So the reason Dak hired Todd France as an agent was to prevent the Cowboys from forcing him to take too much money? Yup, without France, Jerry would of forced him to take even more than he did!
So Dak asked for a very reasonable salary but Jerry insisted on breaking the bank? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
The reasons its on the GM all have to do with being pro active....thats not what they did, they acted like they didnt know Dak's contract was about to end...no plan B, no early try to sign for less nothing..they traded a 4th for a failed Shanahan QB then were dumb founded when that didnt work and the season was upon them and BAM biggest contract in history...thats on the GM no other way to see it.

Now Dak did do something really dumb..he accepted the contract when he had a clear path for basically the same money out of this clown show FO and chose to stay instead...well Dak here is your prise, you will be this FO's scapegoat for years to come congrats!
 
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