Dallas baby dies after pit bull mauling, police say

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Dallas;4752561 said:
tomson. Good to see you bro. I always like when you post. So, this family doesn't appear to be a gangster-wannabe family.

What could have provoked that dog to attack a sleeping baby while nobody was in the room?

Thanks man, the respect is mutual...

I think the whole breed has been effected by the gangster mentality. Over the course of the last 20 years, there are way too many irresponsible pit breeders that are effecting the whole well being of the breed. It's sad....40 years ago, pit bulls rarely attacked other dogs, and attacks on people were even more infrequent.

Damn shame.

That's one reason I'm such a fan of boxers, am-staffs, and American bulldogs....same great looks, personality, short coat, and toughness...but with a far lower degree of aggression bred in to the breeds as a whole. All safer picks, especially if you have little ones running around. Although I still believe 99% of responsibly bred pit bulls are very safe around kids....why take that chance? No dog is worth potential harm to your child.
 

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I've been bitten by two breeds of dogs that were large enough to matter...a standard Poodle, and a giant *** dachshund. Both required medical attention. True story.
 

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If I had sufficient background information on the dog's environment and lineage, I would have no problem owning an American Pit Bull. In general the American Pit Bull does not display a natural aggressiveness towards people. Of course there are always exceptions with many of the reasons having already been touched on in this thread. Contrast that with say, the Presa Canario, a breed in which I would never entertain the thought of owning.

Good stuff:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/canarydog.htm

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm
 

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tomson75;4752614 said:
Thanks man, the respect is mutual...

I think the whole breed has been effected by the gangster mentality. Over the course of the last 20 years, there are way too many irresponsible pit breeders that are effecting the whole well being of the breed. It's sad....40 years ago, pit bulls rarely attacked other dogs, and attacks on people were even more infrequent.

Damn shame.

That's one reason I'm such a fan of boxers, am-staffs, and American bulldogs....same great looks, personality, short coat, and toughness...but with a far lower degree of aggression bred in to the breeds as a whole. All safer picks, especially if you have little ones running around. Although I still believe 99% of responsibly bred pit bulls are very safe around kids....why take that chance? No dog is worth potential harm to your child.

I'm with you on boxers. They are my favorite dog.
 

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Come on guys...pit bulls are Vick's favorite dogs.

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I think it is rare for a dog to attack someone in its pack. Some dogs are inherently hardwired to be protective and the pit bull is one. My boxer is very protective and one of the gentlest dogs I ever been around. I think there are bad owners who teach dogs aggression. Many dogs can be taught to attack a stranger on command but inherently they would not go out of their way to attack a human.

Most of the attacks on small children are because someone has gotten an animal excited and the child's cries/voice/movements trigger a prey response. Once triggered a dog that size will shake a baby to death or mortality injure the baby in seconds. My guess is the aggression and intense emotions frightened and excited the animal and then something triggered a prey response. Now the animal will pay for it with its life and an innocent babe is already dead.
 

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Local news is reporting the dog actually belonged to the child's grandfather and had attacked another person once before.

The grandfather surrendered the dog and requested it be euthanized. Animal Control did so this afternoon.
 

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BBQ101;4752514 said:
Try reading what I wrote in your quote. I certainly didn't say anything about not hurting a fly.

I don't own a pitbull at present. Instead I have a 30 pound terrier mix. Still, that 30 pound dog could kill an infant just as easily as the pitbull in the story. The difference isn't the dog, it is the dog owner.

But keep on with your stereotypical nonsense about a breed you apparently only know through sensational news stories.

BBQ

This ...
 

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I dont like pits and thats why right there. Thats horrible that happened absolutely horrible.
 

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CashMan;4752905 said:
Either #1 or #23, think its 23.
#16

If you click on the pics, it tells ya what kind of dogs they are. They are all very similar.
 

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Never really understood the whole "Pit Bulls are just fine if you raise them right" argument.

Tons of animals are fine if you raise them right. Cheetahs are very docile creatures in the right atmosphere, doesn't mean I should be able to raise one in my house.

I'm sure if you raised almost any reasonable sized animal from birth in your house he could be a great pet. But that doesn't mean you should be able to do it. Nor does it mean you should subject other people to potentially having some sort of issue.

"You always hear about pits because they are so big and strong that they do more damage than other breeds, not because they attack more".

mmmkay. Then they sound like they shouldn't be allowed to be pets to me.
 

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Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 26, 2011

By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2011,1 Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, shows the breeds most responsible for serious injury and death.
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The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers, their close mixes and wolf hybrids:

77% of attacks that induce bodily harm
73% of attacks to children
81% of attack to adults
68% of attacks that result in fatalities
76% that result in maiming

Discussion notes:

Even if the pit bull category was "split three ways," attacks by pit bulls and their closest relatives would still outnumber attacks by any other breed.
Pit bulls are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children, a characteristic not shared by any other breed.
If a pit bull or rottweiler has a bad moment, instead of being bitten, often someone is maimed or killed; that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk.

1982-2011 chart Breed Bodily harm Child Victims Adult Victims Deaths Maimings % of dog population
Pit bull terrier 1970 826 687 207 1093 .033
Rottweiler 481 272 126 78 268 .003
Husky 66 41 4 22 18 .020
Wolf hybrid 84 69 5 19 48 .001
Bullmastiff (Presa canario) 76 30 28 11 44 .002
German shepherd 89 56 25 12 54 .014
German shepherd-mix 54 33 14 9 32
Pit bull-mix 130 56 31 8 74
Akita 65 42 19 8 47 .004
Chow 54 36 15 7 36 .007
Doberman 15 8 7 7 7 .007

*Chart ordered by number of deaths; includes only a portion of breeds listed in report.
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 26, 2011, by Merritt Clifton, Animal People, December 26, 2011.
 

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a_minimalist;4752703 said:
I'm with you on boxers. They are my favorite dog.

I love my two boxers, but my pit is just as good a dog as they are. It's mostly the crazy breeding and irresponsible owners that ruin the pit breed.

That's why it's highly important to use legit breeding services, etc.
 

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Dash28;4752995 said:
I love my two boxers, but my pit is just as good a dog as they are. It's mostly the crazy breeding and irresponsible owners that ruin the pit breed.

That's why it's highly important to use legit breeding services, etc.

Yeah I don't doubt that at all. There's no part of me that could ever trust that breed though. That's my own issue.
 

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a_minimalist;4752703 said:
I'm with you on boxers. They are my favorite dog.

Agreed. Boxers are an excellent breed. I dated a girl who's father was a breeder of them in Tulsa.

Sweet dogs.
 

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Ren;4752231 said:
Problem isn't so much the breed as it is over breeding, irresponsible breeders mating the most aggressive dogs and stupid owners. If people where doing the same thing with German shepherds are they are with Pitbulls that breed would be a problem too.


German Shepherds were the pitbulls of the 1970's. A large spike in popularity lead to irresponsible breeding and people taking in large, intelligient, high-drive animals that need the right environment to develop normally.

The result was, every time a poorly bred and improperly raised GSD bit someone it made the news and they got the same rep that pits have now.

It will be interesting to see which breed turns up next at the top of the hit list.
 
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