Dallas Can win the Super Bowl

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Our odds arent that great but he are still in a position to do it.

That is a fair statement. But, for someone to just flat out come out and say never? I pity those fools because they may have, sometime in their life, given up on something that they might have achieved. Instead, they quit.
 

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It's called having a cowards mentality. There is not a competitor that will ever go into a fight thinking he cannot win.

Do you fit that description?

I am not playing for the Cowboys and neither are you. It makes no difference if we both "quit" as you like to put it. I don't let emotional attachment override common sense. I can see what this team is and the problems it has. Does it make me a better fan if I don't ? I have been a fan for over 40 years and have come to realize that some years the team is just not that good.
 

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I am not playing for the Cowboys and neither are you. It makes no difference if we both "quit" as you like to put it. I don't let emotional attachment override common sense. I can see what this team is and the problems it has. Does it make me a better fan if I don't ? I have been a fan for over 40 years and have come to realize that some years the team is just not that good.

As is your right and I respect it.

I have a problem with people who deem it necessary to puke on other's hope.
In every thread they can click their mouse on.
Every day.
Sometimes multiple times in the same thread. Over and over...
Why?
Spreading the "Real" one thread at a time like it's a job.
I just don't get that.
 

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I am not playing for the Cowboys and neither are you. It makes no difference if we both "quit" as you like to put it. I don't let emotional attachment override common sense. I can see what this team is and the problems it has. Does it make me a better fan if I don't ? I have been a fan for over 40 years and have come to realize that some years the team is just not that good.

The team may not be that good. But to give up now? That is a losers mentality. So, if you feel the way you do, why watch? And, you even said you knew at the start of the season the Cowboy have no chance?

I would never go into any competition with the likes of you and Risen Star with the mentality of giving up before the fight even started or before the fight is finished.

Carry on with you negative self..
 

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Yeah ... his past history is just sparkling with these types of achievements.

So are yours. You are like some other posters that only show up after a Cowboys loss, and never give credit when they do win.
 

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I had hope coming into the season. But I'm not dumb enough to think we're better than the seahawks and saints of the league.

You really didn't think we were better than those teams coming into the season, though, did you? We're about exactly where I thought we'd be at this point (a 10-6 team was what I'd expected), and both the Saints and the Seahawks are almost exactly what I expected them to be, as well. Those teams were always the class of the NFC going in, and they're both playing well, as expected.
 

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You really didn't think we were better than those teams coming into the season, though, did you? We're about exactly where I thought we'd be at this point (a 10-6 team was what I'd expected), and both the Saints and the Seahawks are almost exactly what I expected them to be, as well. Those teams were always the class of the NFC going in, and they're both playing well, as expected.

I had hope coming into the season. Saints sucked last year. I hoped russel Wilson would hit sophomore slump. I thought we had a chance, and like every year, I thought maybe this was our year. But then came reality. To me, were slightly above average. If we make the playoff, I think we're one and done. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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I had hope coming into the season. Saints sucked last year. I hoped russel Wilson would hit sophomore slump. I thought we had a chance, and like every year, I thought maybe this was our year. But then came reality. To me, were slightly above average. If we make the playoff, I think we're one and done. Hope I'm wrong.

Looks that way to me, too, depending who that 'one' team is. Other than SEA and the Saints, I'm not overly impressed with anybody. SF looks ok, I guess, but they're beatable.

It's not any different than I felt going into the season, though. Once the DLs started dropping, without much upgrade to the Ss, we knew what was going to happen to the pass defense. We can beat a good team if Romo plays lights out and if we get takeaways on defense. It'd be a matchup game up until we bump into one of the really elite teams, then it'd take a fluke to beat them.
It is what it is until we play better pass defense. We've seen this story play out the last three seasons, and there's little reason to expect it'll be different until we do what it takes to improve the pass defense. At which point, we'll be a legitimate contender.
 

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My excitement? Risen, you overestimate the importance I place in yours and jndays' opinions if you think seeing your white flag in week 8 somehow put me off of my own expectations for the season. What you're doing now is just waving it some more. I hardly notice it except when it obstructs my view of an actual logical argument in a thread.

I'm just pointing out that what you're doing is capitulating early some more, and not enlightening the rest of us regarding what might happen. We all know about how good this team is.

And, say it all you like, you're obviously wrong to say the Cowboys cannot win a game that has not been played yet. If you're being honest, I'm sure you would have said the exact same thing about the Ravens at this point last season. I was. And that was wrong, too. The reality is, there's too much football yet to play, in both conferences, for anybody to be able to predict what's going to happen.

No, I wouldn't say that about the Ravens. And I didn't say it. But I am saying it about the Cowboys. This team isn't playoff caliber. They simply have no shot to win anything this year. The pieces aren't in place.

You said we were trying to bring down the excitement. When in fact all I did was do the same thing you did. The difference is one of us can't handle a dissenting opinion..
 

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The team may not be that good. But to give up now? That is a losers mentality. So, if you feel the way you do, why watch? And, you even said you knew at the start of the season the Cowboy have no chance?

I would never go into any competition with the likes of you and Risen Star with the mentality of giving up before the fight even started or before the fight is finished.

Carry on with you negative self..

What find of fight are you in?
 

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...You said we were trying to bring down the excitement. When in fact all I did was do the same thing you did. The difference is one of us can't handle a dissenting opinion..

Unless I misread you, what you're presenting is what you consider to be a 'dissenting fact.' But I don't have any problem handling the idea that you're certain you're right about something you can't possibly know for sure. I won't take your argument at face-value, because it's logically unsupportable, if that's what you mean.

Other than that, I can't think what else you might mean re: not handling dissent, since I've said the chances are very slim this team would qualify and then advance far in a playoff. I've said that since early in the year, when it was evident we could not play pass defense to beat a team with a really good QB. And I've said it a few times in this very thread.

As far as I can tell, this 'dissent' you're alluding to is the difference between your preposterous 0% chance argument, and me saying the odds are 'very slim.'
 

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Unless I misread you, what you're presenting is what you consider to be a 'dissenting fact.'

It is my opinion that the Cowboys have a 0% chance to win the Super Bowl this year. Not a long shot or that the odds are stacked against. I believe they don't have any chance.

But I don't have any problem handling the idea that you're certain you're right about something you can't possibly know for sure. I won't take your argument at face-value, because it's logically unsupportable, if that's what you mean.

I can't know for sure that the Jets won't win the Super Bowl this year but I know for sure that the Jets won't win the Super Bowl this year.

Other than that, I can't think what else you might mean re: not handling dissent, since I've said the chances are very slim this team would qualify and then advance far in a playoff. I've said that since early in the year, when it was evident we could not play pass defense to beat a team with a really good QB. And I've said it a few times in this very thread.

As far as I can tell, this 'dissent' you're alluding to is the difference between your preposterous 0% chance argument, and me saying the odds are 'very slim.'

What I meant was clear. It wasn't me whining about people trying to ruin somebody's excitement. You were. All I did was state my opinion. On a fan forum. If that ruins your excitement, you'd be the one with the problem. You should have more faith in your team. Maybe a revoked fan card is in order.

After the Cowboys fail to win the Super Bowl weeks before it's played, you can cling to the faulty notion that they had a shot. I know better. This team isn't talented enough to win a Super Bowl. It's really as simple as that.
 

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You guys sound like my high school students ...

Hey, mistah, why you crushin' our dreams?

I'm gonna make the NBA. Could happen. Could happen.

I'm gonna be a rap star. Could happen. Could happen.

J Lo made it. So will I. Could happen.

Look at Bill Gates.

One idiot kid actually thinks he's going to win the Lotto..

May as well add in the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl this year. Could happen. Could happen.

Too funny ... and too moronic to even begin a discussion.

Classic stuff bro. A good laugh is always welcome.
 

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I am not playing for the Cowboys and neither are you. It makes no difference if we both "quit" as you like to put it. I don't let emotional attachment override common sense. I can see what this team is and the problems it has. Does it make me a better fan if I don't ? I have been a fan for over 40 years and have come to realize that some years the team is just not that good.

For those of you that "liked" this post...congratulations...you just puked on your team. Celebrate if the Cowboys lose! and of course we will see you at our victory parade if we pull the impossible...screaming and laughing with your hands in the air...finger up high...#1
 

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Yeah ... his past history is just sparkling with these types of achievements.

So said Peyton Manning critics before he won one.. though he had to deal with Mr. Steal Signals, you get my point...
 

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...After the Cowboys fail to win the Super Bowl weeks before it's played, you can cling to the faulty notion that they had a shot. I know better. This team isn't talented enough to win a Super Bowl. It's really as simple as that.

This is exactly right. Except that it's not a 'faulty notion' I'd be clinging to in that scenario. I would have been clinging to 'math.'

You'll have 'known better,' because you pretended that an overwhelming likelihood was a certainty back in mid-season on a message board. Congratulations for that. I know I'm always impressed when somebody says a team that was not a legitimate contender to begin with isn't going to win the Superbowl and then ends up being right. I always find myself wondering: "how'd that guy ever see that coming?"

Meanwhile, teams in our situation end up making runs almost every year, so you just never know. They play the games for a reason. We'll have all offseason to complain about how this one probably turns out.
 

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So said Peyton Manning critics before he won one.. though he had to deal with Mr. Steal Signals, you get my point...

If anything, Tony's history suggest we can probably count on him to hold up his end of the deal. We can count on good QB play, and, this season, he's doing a great job taking care of the ball, too.

It's the bottom-ten pass defense that'll get us again, and that hasn't been fixed, unfortunately.
 

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I think it was Mike Tyson who said, "They all have a plan until they get hit."

So watching these guys head's up with Tyson in his best days, did you really believe they stood a chance? Could you make a salient argument using examples why Joe Stiff could beat Tyson if he had his mind into the game?

Do you have a dream for this team until it ends badly?

If I am a coward for looking at the team and suggesting it is highly unlikely they succeed, does that make you a fool for looking and dreaming of Super Bowls with this defense of spare parts?

Sometimes dreams get run over by logic.

Being skeptical is not cowardice. Dreaming is not being a fool.

Calling names of strangers on a message board because they disagree with you is pedantic.

For those who are English challenged I offer this.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/
 
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