CFZ Dallas Cowboys All Time Position Rankings

[quickccc]

That is a pretty fair list brother pretty darn accurate except trayvon diggs needs to go and Herb Adderley needs to be inserted there other than that it's pretty fair

It makes it really tough with guys from the old school dayz that we never got to see play,.. for the most part that's why I prefer the guys I've seen play

Guys like Bob Lilly ...Hayes, Rayfield Wright, Lee Roy Jordan, Howley ...and Mel Renfro would have to be some of the exceptions. (and so thank goodness for YouTube reels)

I just don't hear enuff about the Adderly's, etc.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I ignore any list that does not have Parsons on it.

 

[zrinkill]

He added him after I cried about it

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He added him after I cried about it

Aha.

Yeah. He is already one of the tops

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Only I am not yet critiquing McCarthy based of his past GB super bowl resume , just his very short Cowboys career, (only 3 seasons, two winning) and mind you he has not yet been able to
influx his own offense here because of the Kellen Moore interference.

Actually some forget that Jason Garrett was actually once named NFL coach of the Year (2016) .

Right. And he deserved it though I don’t think he was a good coach here but he was able to win with a rookie RB and Qb as the focal points of his offense. Back to back 12 win seasons for Mike is pretty good for his resume though.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

@quickccc

Two things I’d consider for future lists:

1. Some positions have multiple starters and some only have 1 and often none (FB, third LB, TE are often not on the field). Perhaps go for 10 spots at positions like WR, T, G, DT, etc, as it’s a little unusually to go with 5 centers and only 5 WRs, when each center played with 2-4 WR at any given point.

2. May be time to differentiate Pass rushing OLB’s with true offball OLBs, as they player very different positions. A good example of why is because Demarcus Ware and Charles Haley play the exact same positio ; it just depends on what defensive front you were in at that moment in time. Haley was an OLB in his first life under SF’s 3-4, then was a DE in your 4-3. Ware was the OLB in your 3-4 then a DE in Denver’s 4-3. Maybe just an EDGE group as the draft has changed to?

 

[quickccc]

@quickccc

Two things I’d consider for future lists:

1. Some positions have multiple starters and some only have 1 and often none (FB, third LB, TE are often not on the field). Perhaps go for 10 spots at positions like WR, T, G, DT, etc, as it’s a little unusually to go with 5 centers and only 5 WRs, when each center played with 2-4 WR at any given point.

2. May be time to differentiate Pass rushing OLB’s with true offball OLBs, as they player very different positions. A good example of why is because Demarcus Ware and Charles Haley play the exact same positio ; it just depends on what defensive front you were in at that moment in time. Haley was an OLB in his first life under SF’s 3-4, then was a DE in your 4-3. Ware was the OLB in your 3-4 then a DE in Denver’s 4-3. Maybe just an EDGE group as the draft has changed to?

Thanks for Sharing ....

The reason why I've squeeze the choice options down to a very tight five is it presents more of a challenge.

Going top 10 makes it much more easier . too much easier to rank and press a list. Some deserving player is and has to be left off.
If anything maybe a " Honorable Mentioned " could be added.

With DEs vs blitzing LBs, having two position categories does help add the option choices between DE/OLB than lining both positions up as " Edge" for both DEs/OLBs
.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Here it is again - My very own, annually Dallas Cowboys ALL TIME Ranking List. (Top 5 per position)

Thoughts ? ....Accurate or Way off .? ... Who am I missing ?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/lineups.htm

QUARTERBACKS:
1) Roger Staubach
2) Troy Aikman
3) Tony Romo
4) Dak Prescott
5) Danny white

RUNNING BACKS
1) Emmitt smith
2) Tony Dorsett
3) Zeke Elliott
4) Demarco Murray
5) Hershel walker

FULLBACKS
1) Daryl 'moose' Johnston
2) Don Perkins
3) Walt Garrison
4) Ron Springs
5) Robert Newhouse
.
WIDE RECEIVERS
1) Michael Irvin
2) Bob Hayes
3) Drew Pearson
4) Dez Bryant
5) Terrell Owens
.
TIGHT ENDS
1 Jason Witten
2) Jay Novacek
3) Billy joe Dupree
4) Doug Cosbie
5) Mike Ditka
.
OFFENSIVE TACKLES
1) Rayfield wright
2) Erik Williams
3) Tyron Smith
4) Pat Donovan
5) Mark Tuinei
.
OFFENSIVE GUARDS
1) Larry Allen
2) Zack martin
3) Nate Newton
4) John Niland
5) Herb Scott
.
CENTERS
1) Travis Fredrick
2) Mark Stepnoski
3) Ray Donaldson
4) Andre Gurode
5) John Fitzgerald
.
DEFENSIVE ENDS :
1) Charles Haley
2) Harvey martin
3) Ed Jones
4) Demarcus Lawrence
5) Jim Jeffcoat
.
DEFENSIVE TACKLES :
1) Bob Lilly
2) Randy white
3) Jay Ratliff
4) La Roi Glover
5) Leon Lett
.
MIDDLE LINEBACKERS:
1) Lee Roy Jordan
2) Sean Lee
3) Ken Norton jr.
4) Bob Breuing
5) Robert Jones
.
OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS:
1) Demarcus Ware
2) Micah Parson
3) Chuck Howley
4) Dexter Coakley
5) Thomas Henderson
.
CORNERBACKS
1) Deion Sanders
2) Mel Renfro
3) Everson walls
4) Trevon Diggs
5) Cornell Green
.
SAFETIES
1) Cliff Harris
2) Darren Woodson
3) Roy Williams
4) Brock Marion
5) Charlie waters
.
KICKERS
1) Dan Bailey
2) Rafael Septien
3) Chris Bonoi
4) Nick Folk
5) Richie Cunningham
.
PUNTERS
1) Matt McBriar
2) Toby Gowin
3) Chris Jones
4) John Jett
5) Mike Saxon
.
RETURNERS:
1) Bob Hayes
2) Deion Sanders
3) Mel Renfro
4) Reggie Swinton
5) Kevin Williams

HEAD COACHES
1) Tom Landry
2) Jimmie Johnson
3) Bill Parcells
4) Jason Garrett
5) Mike McCarthy

So most of this isnt based on skill right? Because there is no way that Zeke is in front of Murray and Walker. Walker might be #2 up there on RB talent.

Garrett #4? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Owens was the most talented WR this franchise has ever seen.

 

[quickccc]

I'm hoping those like:

@Bobhaze

@plasticman

..can enlighten me about the old school guys with impressive all star credentials like Ralph Neely, ..Jethro Pugh .. George Andres even the Herb Adderly and Cornell Green.

 

[quickccc]

So most of this isnt based on skill right? Because there is no way that Zeke is in front of Murray and Walker. Walker might be #2 up there on RB talent.

Garrett #4? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Owens was the most talented WR this franchise has ever seen.

To each his own, Roy

An argument can be made that while Murray still has the Cowboys single season rushing record, even more than both Emmitt, Dorsett and Zeke, ...does that make him
better than Emmitt, Dorsett and Zeke... ?

Cowboys gave up Murray to have a chance at drafting Zeke Elliott - why do you think that was, eh ?

On paper Hershel had a very unique blend or speed/power ... Unfortunately Hershel's power and Olympic speed did not translate him being the next Bo Jackson
- as Everson Walls once commented, Walker was somewhat " tippy-toed " running and stiff.

 

[CowboyRoy]

To each his own, Roy

An argument can be made that while Murray still has the Cowboys single season rushing record, even more than both Emmitt, Dorsett and Zeke, ...does that make him
better than Emmitt, Dorsett and Zeke... ?

To each his own, Roy

An argument can be made that while Murray still has the Cowboys single season rushing record, even more than both Emmitt, Dorsett and Zeke, ...does that make him
better than Emmitt, Dorsett and Zeke... ?

I didnt say he was better than Emmitt or Dorsett. But he was obviously better than Zeke. They were both within 2 years of one another. Same Oline, same offense. Murray was Zeke with better speed and receiving skills.

 

[quickccc]

I didnt say he was better than Emmitt or Dorsett. But he was obviously better than Zeke. They were both within 2 years of one another. Same Oline, same offense. Murray was Zeke with better speed and receiving skills.

Murray was better than Zeke as a receiver ? .. Really ?
How many RB screen passes did Murray instantly take to the house ?

If Cowboys had felt that way about Murray, they would have instantly re-signed and locked him up long term as one of the better, highest paid RBs, instead of allowing him to
walk his way as a FA to the rival Eagles .... which turned out to be a bust move for Murray

 

[RS12]

You list Ditka as TE but he was only here a couple years. You didn't list Lance Alworth who was here the same time as Ditka, won a SB ring, caught a TD pass in that game, and oh BTW is one of the best to ever play.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Murray was better than Zeke as a receiver ? .. Really ?
How many RB screen passes did Murray instantly take to the house ?

If Cowboys had felt that way about Murray, they would have instantly re-signed and locked him up long term as one of the better, highest paid RBs, instead of allowing him to
walk his way as a FA to the rival Eagles .... which turned out to be a bust move for Murray

So you agree that Murray was faster?

So now you know what the Cowboys were thinking? Are you incapable of forming your own opinions?

The Cowboys blew it with Murray. In my opinion, jerry thought any of 100 backs could go nutz behind that great Oline. What did he find out the next year? He was so wrong he went out and over did it drafting Zeke with the 4th pick. Typical Jerry.

The Eagles used a RB by committee. It was their philosophy.

 

[quickccc]

So you agree that Murray was faster?

So now you know what the Cowboys were thinking? Are you incapable of forming your own opinions?

The Cowboys blew it with Murray. In my opinion, jerry thought any of 100 backs could go nutz behind that great Oline. What did he find out the next year? He was so wrong he went out and over did it drafting Zeke with the 4th pick. Typical Jerry.

The Eagles used a RB by committee. It was their philosophy.

When did I agree Murray was faster ? His combine time never translated to the NFL playing field.
He was not viewed as a homerun threat back.

The Cowboys' actions by Not re-signing Murray to a long term contract, and allowing him to walk as a FA.. ..tells you what they were thinking.

They don't let players who they consider Core players walk out as FA. ..they get re-signed long term.

Eagles did the RB committee - under Chip Kelly ? Did they do the same " committee " when Shady McCoy led the NFL in rushing under Chip ?
So why could not Murray,? .... who they signed to a lucrative contract.

 

[quickccc]

You list Ditka as TE but he was only here a couple years. You didn't list Lance Alworth who was here the same time as Ditka, won a SB ring, caught a TD pass in that game, and oh BTW is one of the best to ever play.

Even with only 2 years, was there other TEs that belongs ahead of Ditka ? (most of his career in Chicago) ...

Was the George Andrie guy more flanker or TE ?

Didn't Alworth have his best career years with the Chargers ? If anything I'd have Tony Hill over an Alworth.
Everybody cannot make the top 5; someone has to be 6th or 7th, etc.

 

[RS12]

Even with only 2 years, was there other TEs that belongs ahead of Ditka ? (most of his career in Chicago) ...

Was the George Andrie guy more flanker or TE ?

Didn't Alworth have his best career years with the Chargers ? If anything I'd have Tony Hill over an Alworth.
Everybody cannot make the top 5; someone has to be 6th or 7th, etc.

Andrie was a pass rusher and a good one. Alworth widely considered top 100 all time and definitely made an impact on the first SB winning team. Did it all speed, hands, acrobatic moves. Could argue better than everyone you listed.

 

[Pacowboy1968]

Here it is again - My very own, annually Dallas Cowboys ALL TIME Ranking List. (Top 5 per position)

Thoughts ? ....Accurate or Way off .? ... Who am I missing ?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/lineups.htm

QUARTERBACKS:
1) Roger Staubach
2) Troy Aikman
3) Tony Romo
4) Dak Prescott
5) Danny white

RUNNING BACKS
1) Emmitt smith
2) Tony Dorsett
3) Zeke Elliott
4) Demarco Murray
5) Hershel walker

FULLBACKS
1) Daryl 'moose' Johnston
2) Don Perkins
3) Walt Garrison
4) Ron Springs
5) Robert Newhouse
.
WIDE RECEIVERS
1) Michael Irvin
2) Bob Hayes
3) Drew Pearson
4) Dez Bryant
5) Terrell Owens
.
TIGHT ENDS
1 Jason Witten
2) Jay Novacek
3) Billy joe Dupree
4) Doug Cosbie
5) Mike Ditka
.
OFFENSIVE TACKLES
1) Rayfield wright
2) Erik Williams
3) Tyron Smith
4) Pat Donovan
5) Mark Tuinei
.
OFFENSIVE GUARDS
1) Larry Allen
2) Zack martin
3) Nate Newton
4) John Niland
5) Herb Scott
.
CENTERS
1) Travis Fredrick
2) Mark Stepnoski
3) Ray Donaldson
4) Andre Gurode
5) John Fitzgerald
.
DEFENSIVE ENDS :
1) Charles Haley
2) Harvey martin
3) Ed Jones
4) Demarcus Lawrence
5) Jim Jeffcoat
.
DEFENSIVE TACKLES :
1) Bob Lilly
2) Randy white
3) Jay Ratliff
4) La Roi Glover
5) Leon Lett
.
MIDDLE LINEBACKERS:
1) Lee Roy Jordan
2) Sean Lee
3) Ken Norton jr.
4) Bob Breuing
5) Robert Jones
.
OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS:
1) Demarcus Ware
2) Micah Parson
3) Chuck Howley
4) Dexter Coakley
5) Thomas Henderson
.
CORNERBACKS
1) Deion Sanders
2) Mel Renfro
3) Everson walls
4) Trevon Diggs
5) Cornell Green
.
SAFETIES
1) Cliff Harris
2) Darren Woodson
3) Roy Williams
4) Brock Marion
5) Charlie waters
.
KICKERS
1) Dan Bailey
2) Rafael Septien
3) Chris Bonoi
4) Nick Folk
5) Richie Cunningham
.
PUNTERS
1) Matt McBriar
2) Toby Gowin
3) Chris Jones
4) John Jett
5) Mike Saxon
.
RETURNERS:
1) Bob Hayes
2) Deion Sanders
3) Mel Renfro
4) Reggie Swinton
5) Kevin Williams

HEAD COACHES
1) Tom Landry
2) Jimmie Johnson
3) Bill Parcells
4) Jason Garrett
5) Mike McCarthy

Unpopular opinion BUT in their prime I would take Dorsett over Smith EVERY time.

 

[kskboys]

Meredith is 3rd, Danny White 4th.

Don Perkins is 3rd.

 

[pancakeman]

If we are using playoffs as the only criteria, Danny White needs to be above both of them. Sure he never got us to a Superbowl but did get to 3 straight NFC Championship games.

And has three more playoff wins then either of them.

Sneak him in as punter and you can save a roster spot!