News: Dallas Cowboys: Expect More 12 Personnel in 2022

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For whatever reason it's probably our most effective formation. I don't know why, but I do expect we see it early and often this year. Maybe we went away more so because Gallup, Coop and CD were all in the line up? You make a fair point on Wilson and Jarwin.

I think what you've written here is a good example that McCarthy is going to favor the better personnel group. We used Jarwin and Schultz together more because both had showed that they deserved to be used. We turned to Gallup, Cooper and CeeDee in the lineup together more because they were our best combination.

I have no idea at this point what our best combination will be, and it may take a little while to figure it out. I think it did last year when we had to play without Gallup and Jarwin.
 

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I think what you've written here is a good example that McCarthy is going to favor the better personnel group. We used Jarwin and Schultz together more because both had showed that they deserved to be used. We turned to Gallup, Cooper and CeeDee in the lineup together more because they were our best combination.

I have no idea at this point what our best combination will be, and it may take a little while to figure it out. I think it did last year when we had to play without Gallup and Jarwin.

Once Jarwin went down he went away from 12 personnel. I dont know if it was about talent on the field or him not having faith in his TE2.
 

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I'm guessing Ferguson is the second TE in this package.

It's good because it stretches the defense out. And you can protect better against 3-4 defenses. So I like it.

Fergeson can really play. Not sure if he was the best TE in the draft. But I think he can make a difference, especially in a 2TE set with Schultz on the field with him.
 
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dink and dunk city. unfortunately Dak isnt consistent enough to dink and dunk to a TD. Expect a lot of FG's to start the season
 

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Nope it’s Sprinkle
I'm not sure Sprinkle will make the team. They probably only keep 3 TE's, 2 of which will be Schultz and Ferguson. With the 3rd I suspect they might keep the younger, developing McKeon over Sprinkle
 

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Lol. So from number 1 to 15?

Lol. I’m expecting a drop off but wow. Come on man.

yeah I hear you, it’s certainly hyperbolic sounding and I may have been a bit harsh. We’ll find out, I certainly hope #1
 

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Call me crazy, but I’m sensing a Rico Gathers comeback story. You heard it here first.
 

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He’s top 10 in both Hotshot :)

Use facts. Ignore your feelings

What are you talking about "hotshot"? I have always been a Dak Prescott supporter ..... But he loves to check down and make the safe throw.
I have always said he is between the 13-7 range in top Qb's so go find someone else to argue with "hotshot"

:rolleyes:
 

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What are you talking about "hotshot"? I have always been a Dak Prescott supporter ..... But he loves to check down and make the safe throw.
I have always said he is between the 13-7 range in top Qb's so go find someone else to argue with "hotshot"

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Right, but all I said was use the facts. The facts say that he’s not a check down QB. I posted last year’s stats and he’s been better than that throughout his career (at YPA and air yards or whatever they call it)
The check down label just isn’t accurate.

And I’m sorry. You weren’t being hotshot. I got too excited.
 

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With Mike McCarthy back for his third year and Kellen Moore back for his fourth (as OC), many believe things will stay status quo on offense for the Dallas Cowboys. But there’s reason to believe that will not be the case in 2022, and that the Cowboys offense is going to evolve into something a little different.

Keep in mind, with Amari Cooper playing in Cleveland these days, the Cowboys lost a fundamental part of their passing attack this year. The addition of Jalen Tolbert and James Washington should help, but no one believes them to completely fill the void left by Amari’s departure.

Further complicating matters is Michael Gallup’s injury situation. Gallup is fresh off an ACL injury and is not expected back in time to play in Week 1. That means two of the Dallas Cowboys top-three WRs from 2021 will be absent when the new season kicks off. That’s going to an effect on what Offensive Coordinator Kellen Moore does.



FULL STORY: Dallas Cowboys: Expect more 12 personnel (2TE) in 2022 (sportdfw.com)

Kellen Moore likes 12 personnel (2 TE sets) but not for the traditional reasons.

Traditionally coaches have used 12 to boost the running game; however, Kellen Moore likes it for passing game matchups.
- He likes to see if defenses will play an extra LB over a DB (base vs Nickel) when he uses 2 TEs.
- Moore has been good at scheming TEs open in general and especially in 12 personnel.
- In the games that Jarwin played with Schultz in 2021 and with Witten back in 2019, Moore used Jarwin as a chess piece.
- I saw a little bit of that with McKeon/Schultz mid-2021 but McKeon had a neck injury in game 12 and his snap count dropped to minimal afterwards.

The key is for both TEs to be good route runners.
- Moore is much better than Garrett ever was at 'probing' defenses early and then coming back with a similar but altered play later to exploit coverage tendencies.
- It can be as simple as re-running a play except the TE that is being schemed open varies the angle of a post route.
- The TE might have run a post that was close to a square-in on the original play.
- Then on the repeat play, he takes it more vertical because they know the FS will cheat to the other side of the field.

Moore also likes to run a tiered route scheme on designed QB rollouts which is common; however,...
- He seems to prefer doing it with TEs over WRs.
- i.e. Schultz running a square-in at 10 yards and Jarwin running a square-in at 20 yards with Dak rolling out to that side.

A big part of the reason they liked TE Jake Ferguson in the draft, is that he is considered a High IQ player.
- It is unlikely the Cowboys would have drafted MartyB if Kellen Moore had been the Offensive Coordinator back then.
- MartyB had a multi-million dollar body but a 10 cent brain.
 

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Oh, hey. Look. It’s the annual offseason “more 12 personnel” post. A fixture since Parcells.
 

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- Moore is much better than Garrett ever was at 'probing' defenses early and then coming back with a similar but altered play later to exploit coverage tendencies.

Whatever Moore's stupidities, I welcome the end of *dogmatic* stupidity: "We do what we do".
 

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I doubt it. Probably Mckeon. And I’m not convinced we will see more 12 personnel

Me either. Dak and Kellen loves them some shotgun sets. And also we don’t have decent blocking TEs.

The only way 12 personnel works is if the D respects the ground game, and you have TEs that can block AND are threats in the passing game.
 

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Gotta do something to keep Pollard off the field.

We're gonna be putting Ferguson on the field as a TE over Pollard as a motion rb/wr.

Clown Team

More than Ferguson, it’s the Clown Team’s contract to Zeke that is dictating touches. Gotta play the guy you paid smh
 

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More than Ferguson, it’s the Clown Team’s contract to Zeke that is dictating touches. Gotta play the guy you paid smh

My comments were assuming that Zeke is also on the field.

Locks: Schulz, Lamb and Zeke (Zeke because jerseys). Assume Gallup is healthy, and he's the 4th lock.

Then here are the alternatives for the 5th man: Pollard and lots of nobodies.

It's not even close. Pollard is our best 5th man option *by far*. I'd put Pollard on the field before anyone but Lamb.
 
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