News: Dallas Cowboys Free Agency: The Cowboys Didn't Whiff On Anyone, They Just Avoided Price Wars

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Which is why the investment is insane. I, for one, am glad we didn't hop into that market. Call me crazy, but I'm just not high on getting into bidding wars for players that are getting paid like JJ Watt yet produce like George Selvie circa 2014.

To be fair, he hasn't just had one good season...he put up 11.5 sacks in 2013 and 6.5 in 2014. And he is a tackling machine....very high tackle numbers for a 4-3 DE.
 

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As many other teams also. All teams have players they brought in, rather this year, last year or 2 years ago. As FA's or the draft. And have hope they pay off.
There have been quite a few other teams being quiet also. Not many teams made any significant moves that one says WOW, they are going to win.
Matter of fact what team has done anything to really impress anyone.

To me the ones over spending may be the teams in panic. Look what the Eagles do every year, spend, makes moves, make trades. Look what it has done, or more like have not done for them.

Fans keep bringing up the last 20 years, and as you said, that lack of success have something to do with it, no, is right. They need to look at what can happen and stop dwelling on that past. It's done, time to move forward. The FO is doing things much different and better now.

Well that's the hope. But if we go another 20 years with this success rate then it isn't any better. The strategy may be different, the strategy may even be right. But the decisions within the strategy have to be correct or we end up right back here where we started. Regardless of the outcome, you are still right. We need to forget about what happened and look towards the future with some optimism.
 

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To be fair, he hasn't just had one good season...he put up 11.5 sacks in 2013 and 6.5 in 2014. And he is a tackling machine....very high tackle numbers for a 4-3 DE.

Fair enough, but which of those stats justify or trigger JJ Watt money? Honestly. The same posters that spend the majority of their posts whining about the ineptitude of this front office would have a field day with Jones if he signed a "good" player to an "All Pro" contract and rightfully so.

11.5 sacks two years ago is nice but his career stats point that out as an anomaly. Now, if he had averaged 11.5 sacks? You bet! Jump in the race and see where we end up. But for a 7.5 sack career average? No thanks.
 

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Fair enough, but which of those stats justify or trigger JJ Watt money? Honestly. The same posters that spend the majority of their posts whining about the ineptitude of this front office would have a field day with Jones if he signed a "good" player to an "All Pro" contract and rightfully so.

11.5 sacks two years ago is nice but his career stats point that out as an anomaly. Now, if he had averaged 11.5 sacks? You bet! Jump in the race and see where we end up. But for a 7.5 sack career average? No thanks.

Agreed, but if JJ Watt were a free agent today, can you imagine what he would get?
 

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What he EARNED (unlike Vernon).

The problem from the start here, was not your principal stated. It is valid on it's own merit, but the price tag was way too high when positional needs were high as well.
 

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I mean it's not like we missed out on Jeremy Parnell at RT or anything....
 

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I still bet the Giants would rather have Vernon and over-pay than not have him at all.

The salary cap is becoming irrelevant.

I'll bet the Eagles are stoked that they signed Murray last year, too.............oh wait.
 

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I don't think the cap is irrelevant, but given the way you can manipulate it...it's not that big of a problem. And you can be in complete cap hell per se, and be completely out of it in two years with boatloads of money to spend and with the NFL revenue sharing, it's almost impossible to fail even with a crappy team.
 

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I don't think the cap is irrelevant, but given the way you can manipulate it...it's not that big of a problem. And you can be in complete cap hell per se, and be completely out of it in two years with boatloads of money to spend and with the NFL revenue sharing, it's almost impossible to fail even with a crappy team.

Don't kid oneself...budgets are always restrictive in a free economy.
 

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How many budgets can you increase your "cash in hand" so to speak by 25% or more with a mere signature?
 

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I'll bet the Eagles are stoked that they signed Murray last year, too.............oh wait.

And now he is gone and they picked up a draft pick swap

Teams dump their bad FAs, we hang on to them(Carr) and extend them(Free)
 

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Study the reality of it...yea it is.

For Social Security, know what the usual cost of living allowance is for sustaining status quo?

Yes I do know, and the NFL just gave a higher percentage in their latest cap increase. Your budget and my budget are simple. We have x dollars we can use. If we use too much, we don't have a simple means of making more. Also, our budget has to cover everything....while the NFL's only covers the cost of players. THey have unlimited budgets for things outside the personnel department. It's nowhere near the same thing, but if you don't see that, nothing I can tell you will make you change your opinion. And that's just fine.
 

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Yes I do know, and the NFL just gave a higher percentage in their latest cap increase. Your budget and my budget are simple. We have x dollars we can use. If we use too much, we don't have a simple means of making more. Also, our budget has to cover everything....while the NFL's only covers the cost of players. THey have unlimited budgets for things outside the personnel department. It's nowhere near the same thing, but if you don't see that, nothing I can tell you will make you change your opinion. And that's just fine.

When you wish upon a star...makes no difference, who you are...

and all the discussion just doesn't breach the point of budgeting until one has a workable picture of constant cash flow. Period.
 

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When you wish upon a star...makes no difference, who you are...

and all the discussion just doesn't breach the point of budgeting until one has a workable picture of constant cash flow. Period.

Can you throw in a burn barrel reference or a pee down the nub quote?
 
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