Dallas Cowboys Rumor: Would Signing Ray Rice Be The Right Move For Big D?

[big dog cowboy]

When you see a disgraced player like Ray Rice being mentioned as often as he has you know there's a lot bigger concern about the RB situation than most are willing to admit.

Or the media is trying to dig something up to talk about involving the Cowboys again. Let's see.....a video of Rice working out suddenly appears....we think the Cowboys need a RB.....light bulb goes on! Show me something concrete from anyone out at Valley Ranch and I'll bite. Otherwise I'll continue to ignore what the talking mouthpieces think they know.

 

[LatinMind]

Always thought football was about actually playing the game not what happens off it. People seem to think Jerry cares about PR. If he thinks he needs Rice he will be a Cowboy. A lot of people need to give their brains a rest with this whole RB situation they got going on in their heads. You're going to give urselves gray hair. The team will let you know what they plan on doing when they're ready.

 

[Idgit]

This is another one of the many threads that point to there being a lot more concern about the Cowboys RB situation than some are letting on. Most here come off like the RB situation is nothing to worry about because many think the OL is the reason Murray was so successful last season. He's been reduced to nothing more than an average back by more than just a few. Everything from his speed to his vision has been criticized. With all the negative talk about his speed, vision and leaving yards on the field you wouldn't think he set a franchise rushing record and received 2 MVP votes in 2014. If most on this board were as confident as they make it appear that the OL can make the backs the Cowboys currently have successful names like Ray Rice and Felix Jones wouldn't have come up as many times as they have.

When you see a disgraced player like Ray Rice being mentioned as often as he has you know there's a lot bigger concern about the RB situation than most are willing to admit. Just the number of RB threads alone since Murray left points to the FAN base being nervous about the backs the Cowboys have. Let's be honest had Murray resigned there wouldn't be any talk about the RB position everyone would be focused on the defense which is what ultimately did in the Cowboys during the playoffs. There's hasn't been a topic since the 2014 season ended that's been debated more outside of Dez's reversed catch than the RB situation. Those who keep saying they're aren't worried about the RB situation are blowing smoke.

Your read on the RB angst is off. Most of us realize it's the single weakest offensive position group on the roster. I think that's been fairly well established.

I also don't think there's support for signing Ray Rice. The fact that he's mentioned in outlier discussions means very little. He's controversial and available. Of course it's going to get brought up.

 

[Idgit]

You are not a FAN...you are a real fan. sbk Tell everyone how it is suppose to be done.

Now he's probably going to. Thanks a lot. Whatever the equivalent of complaining about the OL rebuild the whole time it's actually happening is for this season, I don't really want to hear it.

A lot of us didn't want a big deal for Murray before the offseason. And a lot of us don't like the RB depth as it is. We just keep it in context because we see the depth on other rosters, too and know you can't have an all pro at every position.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Yes maam. You're like EF Hutton. When you talk, I listen.

Lol. That was for the writer of the article and the guy"a debate.

 

[Silver N Blue]

The negative PR from signing both Hardy and Rice would be too much.

Id rather see a potatoe signed over rice.

 

[CF74]

I was working on dry and corny but still a tad kool rather than stupid....but not cute.

I'm thinking more like fart-see-scious...

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I'd pass on this guy.

I also would wait for the next elevator if he and I were getting on at the same time.

 

[jobberone]

I'm thinking more like fart-see-scious...

I resemble that remark!

 

[KJJ]

Your read on the RB angst is off. Most of us realize it's the single weakest offensive position group on the roster. I think that's been fairly well established.

I also don't think there's support for signing Ray Rice. The fact that he's mentioned in outlier discussions means very little. He's controversial and available. Of course it's going to get brought up.

If you read my post I'm basically saying most realize the RB position is the weakest offensive position but they're "acting" like it's not a concern and some are even trying to spin the position is even stronger now that Murray is gone. It's typical of FANS to try and turn a big negative into a positive. Last year after Lee went down many tried turning that into a positive saying it could be be a blessing in disguise and the way the season ended up going maybe it was. There's been so many talking up Randle and tearing down Murray that it's obviously gotten back to Randle and inflated his head. It's got him saying what many here said after the season that Murray left a lot of meat on the bone. I've engaged in a lot of discussion on the RB position especially the past couple of weeks and it's clear from those who've reduced Murray to an average back that these posters are blowing smoke over their lack of concern for the RB position. Several who've claimed the Cowboys won't miss a beat with the backs they have have mentioned bringing in other RB's.

One of the FANS who's predicting big things for McFadden/Randle/Williams is one of those who mentioned bringing in Ray Rice several weeks ago. It's obvious that those who are making it appear the loss of Murray is no concern and that the backs the Cowboys currently have can do the job don't believe it. They say one thing when debating me because they're bent on disagreeing with me but contradict themselves in other posts. When they're confronted with these contradictions they disappear. There's support from "some" for Ray Rice or his name wouldn't keep coming up. I've seen several saying the Cowboys should bring him in for a look but the majority here don't want him. His name comes up a lot here because Jerry is taking a gamble on Hardy and Gregory. He took a chance on Pacman and Dez so naturally with the concern at RB Rice's name is going to come up.

 

[jobberone]

There are outliers on either end of a spectrum of a population. Get over it.

 

[AsthmaField]

For me, I could probably sum it up like this:

Did I like Murray? Yes.
Do I think he has great run instincts and vision? No.
Did I want to pay $8M per for him? No.
Did I think he's worth $8M per? No.
Did I want Dallas to sign McFadden? Definitely not.
Do I think McFadden will break out in Dallas? No I don't.
Do I think he can contribute? Yes.
Do I think Randle will play well? Yes.
Do I think he should be the starter? Yes.
Do I trust him not to get himself suspended? Not really.
Am I thrilled with the collective group at RB? Nope.
Do I think the team will probably be fine with this group? Yes I do.
Do I think we need to just see how it plays out? Yes I do.
Do I think the Media is over reacting to the RB situation in Dallas? Definitely.
Do I think some fans are over reacting? Yes.
Do I understand why they are? Somewhat.
Has everything that can be said about it already been said? I think so.

 

[DallasEast]

For me, I could probably sum it up like this:

Did I like Murray? Yes.
Do I think he has great run instincts and vision? No.
Did I want to pay $8M per for him? No.
Did I think he's worth $8M per? No.
Did I want Dallas to sign McFadden? Definitely not.
Do I think McFadden will break out in Dallas? No I don't.
Do I think he can contribute? Yes.
Do I think Randle will play well? Yes.
Do I think he should be the starter? Yes.
Do I trust him not to get himself suspended? Not really.
Am I thrilled with the collective group at RB? Nope.
Do I think the team will probably be fine with this group? Yes I do.
Do I think we need to just see how it plays out? Yes I do.
Do I think the Media is over reacting to the RB situation in Dallas? Definitely.
Do I think some fans are over reacting? Yes.
Do I understand why they are? Somewhat.
Has everything that can be said about it already been said? I think so.

Solid post. I agree with practically everything except your last point. There is no "think." Not only has every point been discussed about this topic. Every point's been rehashed many times. Your 15th point is the sole motivation for the constant rehashing. The actual season will somewhat subdue the anxiety but that time is still months away.

 

[KJJ]

You don't know the drill by now? There is a large segment of this fan base that will support anything and everything the team does. The Cowboys decided to do nothing substantial at RB this year, so that's what these fans believe was the right decision. These are the same people who supported the Cowboys flawed thinking that they could get by with complete slop along the OL years ago and now support the Cowboys 180 reversal of philosophy as they stockpile talent at those positions. They have no real opinions. The team thinks for them.

Hey, who did we draft? Let me get on YouTube and see the genius behind these decisions. I've always liked these players. That's why I never mentioned them. Spreadsheets coming soon.

So they don't really believe losing Murray is a non issue. It's just that that's what the Cowboys believe and, well.....Go Cowboys!, bro.

That's always been the drill amongst FANS they convince themselves of things no rational fan could ever convince themselves of. Homerism is a powerful force and once someone is overtaken by it they lose all ability to reason and use logic.

 

[gmoney112]

If you read my post I'm basically saying most realize the RB position is the weakest offensive position but they're "acting" like it's not a concern and some are even trying to spin the position is even stronger now that Murray is gone. It's typical of FANS to try and turn a big negative into a positive. Last year after Lee went down many tried turning that into a positive saying it could be be a blessing in disguise and the way the season ended up going maybe it was. There's been so many talking up Randle and tearing down Murray that it's obviously gotten back to Randle and inflated his head. It's got him saying what many here said after the season that Murray left a lot of meat on the bone. I've engaged in a lot of discussion on the RB position especially the past couple of weeks and it's clear from those who've reduced Murray to an average back that these posters are blowing smoke over their lack of concern for the RB position. Several who've claimed the Cowboys won't miss a beat with the backs they have have mentioned bringing in other RB's.

One of the FANS who's predicting big things for McFadden/Randle/Williams is one of those who mentioned bringing in Ray Rice several weeks ago. It's obvious that those who are making it appear the loss of Murray is no concern and that the backs the Cowboys currently have can do the job don't believe it. They say one thing when debating me because they're bent on disagreeing with me but contradict themselves in other posts. When they're confronted with these contradictions they disappear. There's support from "some" for Ray Rice or his name wouldn't keep coming up. I've seen several saying the Cowboys should bring him in for a look but the majority here don't want him. His name comes up a lot here because Jerry is taking a gamble on Hardy and Gregory. He took a chance on Pacman and Dez so naturally with the concern at RB Rice's name is going to come up.

His name hasn't been brought up once from Valley Ranch or anyone associated with it, the only ones bringing it up are these FANS you keep mentioning. Or journalists who need to meet a click quota.

 

[Idgit]

If you read my post I'm basically saying most realize the RB position is the weakest offensive position but they're "acting" like it's not a concern and some are even trying to spin the position is even stronger now that Murray is gone. It's typical of FANS to try and turn a big negative into a positive. Last year after Lee went down many tried turning that into a positive saying it could be be a blessing in disguise and the way the season ended up going maybe it was. There's been so many talking up Randle and tearing down Murray that it's obviously gotten back to Randle and inflated his head. It's got him saying what many here said after the season that Murray left a lot of meat on the bone. I've engaged in a lot of discussion on the RB position especially the past couple of weeks and it's clear from those who've reduced Murray to an average back that these posters are blowing smoke over their lack of concern for the RB position. Several who've claimed the Cowboys won't miss a beat with the backs they have have mentioned bringing in other RB's.

One of the FANS who's predicting big things for McFadden/Randle/Williams is one of those who mentioned bringing in Ray Rice several weeks ago. It's obvious that those who are making it appear the loss of Murray is no concern and that the backs the Cowboys currently have can do the job don't believe it. They say one thing when debating me because they're bent on disagreeing with me but contradict themselves in other posts. When they're confronted with these contradictions they disappear. There's support from "some" for Ray Rice or his name wouldn't keep coming up. I've seen several saying the Cowboys should bring him in for a look but the majority here don't want him. His name comes up a lot here because Jerry is taking a gamble on Hardy and Gregory. He took a chance on Pacman and Dez so naturally with the concern at RB Rice's name is going to come up.

Yeah, I think what's happening is the you're seeing a broad range of opinions on the topic and then reacting to a small minority subset and projecting it for whatever reason.

What I see is a community that understands RB is a big question mark that we're trying to fill with several players who each have some flaws. They also each have some possibilities, so it should be no surprise to see hopeful posts alongside some skeptical ones.

I've never put a ton of stock in RBs, either way. I just want a healthy position group who can pass protect and not fumble.

 

[Idgit]

For me, I could probably sum it up like this:

Did I like Murray? Yes.
Do I think he has great run instincts and vision? No.
Did I want to pay $8M per for him? No.
Did I think he's worth $8M per? No.
Did I want Dallas to sign McFadden? Definitely not.
Do I think McFadden will break out in Dallas? No I don't.
Do I think he can contribute? Yes.
Do I think Randle will play well? Yes.
Do I think he should be the starter? Yes.
Do I trust him not to get himself suspended? Not really.
Am I thrilled with the collective group at RB? Nope.
Do I think the team will probably be fine with this group? Yes I do.
Do I think we need to just see how it plays out? Yes I do.
Do I think the Media is over reacting to the RB situation in Dallas? Definitely.
Do I think some fans are over reacting? Yes.
Do I understand why they are? Somewhat.
Has everything that can be said about it already been said? I think so.

This absolutely nails it for me.

 

[AsthmaField]

That's always been the drill amongst FANS they convince themselves of things no rational fan could ever convince themselves of. Homerism is a powerful force and once someone is overtaken by it they lose all ability to reason and use logic.

The large group of fans that posts on CowboysZone are like any group of NFL fans on any forum on the WWW. A majority will look for the positives with everything their team does. They always hope for the best and see the upside in most of the situations and personnel moves. Some have a much more negative slant and criticize most of the moves their team made. Some are able to be pretty unbiased as they look at things and will see some moves as good and some as bad.

I have been on rival teams forums and it is much easier to see things clearly and see their moves for what they are. When you're emotionally invested in a team, I think a lot of people can't see things objectively. It is human nature.

I've noticed on the Commanders board that I visit sometimes how a player is great until he gets cut or traded and then, suddenly, he isn't worth a crap. The truth will typically lie in the middle. Jason Hatcher wasn't worth a crap until the Skins picked him up as a FA... then, suddenly he became a good player that Commander fans admired but didn't like in Dallas... and now they're glad he brought his considerable skills to Washington.

Every teams fans wanted Collins before he signed, and then after coming to Dallas, all the fans around the league started seeing why he really wasn't that talented and they're glad their team didn't waste their time with him, lol. Giants fans in particular decided quickly that Collins would have had zero chance to start on their talented OL.

It can be humorous really.

I bet if we looked at any of the 31 other team's message boards, we could find the evil twin of most of the posters here. There would be guys like us that we could classify just like we do many of the members here: They would have logical fans, emotional fans, "realistic" fans, Homers, negative Nancies, sock puppet trolls, etc.

To expect anything else on any NFL fan forum would be unreasonable.

 

[jobberone]

You don't know the drill by now? There is a large segment of this fan base that will support anything and everything the team does. ***snip***

Hey, who did we draft? Let me get on YouTube and see the genius behind these decisions. I've always liked these players. That's why I never mentioned them. Spreadsheets coming soon.

So they don't really believe losing Murray is a non issue. It's just that that's what the Cowboys believe and, well.....Go Cowboys!, bro.

The bolded is true because you say it is??? There is no large segment on either end. You only get one vote. And you don't always get that right.

Jees Louise!

 

[jobberone]

LOL. Some should never mention rational, logic and reason in one sentence.