Dallas has no weapons - Baldinger

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welcome to paying a qb over 20% of the salary cap

u pay the qb to elevate the entire offense

it will get worse dak was half the cost this season
Not even arguing whether Dak is worth his contract or not, but giving a big contract to a QB does not stop a well run organization from allocating $ to weapons. The $ is 100% there, Jerry and Stephen just chose the wrong guys to spend it on. Zeke, Gallup and Schultz combined for a $30 million cap hit and none of them are actual difference makers. That $ could/should have been allocated MUCH differently in a way that could have actually helped the team
 

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For our particular team and what I think a scrambling QB could provide I would take Kyler over Dak.

I can’t imagine how bad AZ would be with Dak as their QB. Dallas potentially would improve.
You’re not going to win crap with a little QB who scrambles around all the time like a chicken with their head cut off. Murray has a losing QB record. He’s only led the Cardinals to the playoffs once and played one of the worst playoff games I’ve ever seen a QB play last season. His passer rating against the Rams was 40.9. It was like a comedy farce, watching him running around making mistake after mistake after hilarious mistake. He has no leadership skills and when his name is mentioned here everyone scoffs at the thought of having him as our QB except for you. :laugh: You really need to stay away from QB discussions because you have absolutely no clue about the position.
 

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A 100+ catch receiver, 2 backs close to 1k. A decent o-line... ... Maybe I'm missing something
 

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You’re not going to win crap with a little QB who scrambles around all the time like a chicken with their head cut off. Murray has a losing QB record. He’s only led the Cardinals to the playoffs once and played one of the worst playoff games I’ve ever seen a QB play last season. His passer rating against the Rams was 40.9. It was like a comedy farce, watching him running around making mistake after mistake after hilarious mistake. He has no leadership skills and when his name is mentioned here everyone scoffs at the thought of having him as our QB except for you. :laugh:
He’s a playmaker and Dak isn’t. We can’t win crap with Dak.

Dude single handedly beat us a year ago.

 

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Cd was absolutely good enough this year. He had a strong year all things considered. After him? Disaster by the FO.
 

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He’s a playmaker and Dak isn’t. We can’t win crap with Dak.

Dude single handedly beat us a year ago.


Dak is a playmaker. Kyler Murray makes our defense looks stupid every time we play against him. We’ve had two rookie QBs beat our defense this season and this was a better defense than we had last year. The Cardinals haven’t won crap with Kyler Murray. Go look at the highlights of him against the Rams in the playoffs last season. :laugh:
 

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Was talking about against this same team
Which is still post injury…

Yea, I mean that game was a team meltdown. OL was banged up and got whooped which caused all kinds of issues on offense but no one played well…shoot Tyron gave up 7 pressures which is about what he gave up all year. Dak played much more poorly this year and gets no pass from me.

Also - can we acknowledge SF is really freaking good? They choked out LA, AZ twice, Mia, TB and SEA down the stretch. Aka made a lot of other QBs look really bad. These are teams with even better WR weapons than us.
 

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Dak is a playmaker. Kyler Murray makes our defense looks stupid every time we play against him. We’ve had two rookie QBs beat our defense this season and this was a better defense than we had last year. The Cardinals haven’t won crap with Kyler Murray. Go look at the highlights of him against the Rams in the playoffs last season. :laugh:
Yeah but the Cardinals suck and we don’t.

I’d much rather have a rookie contract than Dak but if Cooper Rush can get Dak like results with this team then don’t act like Kyler couldn’t do as well if not better.
 

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Which is still post injury…

Yea, I mean that game was a team meltdown. OL was banged up and got whooped which caused all kinds of issues on offense but no one played well…shoot Tyron gave up 7 pressures which is about what he gave up all year. Dak played much more poorly this year and gets no pass from me.

Also - can we acknowledge SF is really freaking good? They choked out LA, AZ twice, Mia, TB and SEA down the stretch. Aka made a lot of other QBs look really bad. These are teams with even better WR weapons than us.
They length you people go….


So his calf was the reason why he cant read the field?
 

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Yeah but the Cardinals suck and we don’t.

I’d much rather have a rookie contract than Dak but if Cooper Rush can get Dak like results with this team then don’t act like Kyler couldn’t do as well if not better.
Part of the reason they suck is because of Kyler Murray. Rush didn’t get Dak like results when he played. We only won with Cooper Rush, because of our defense and kicker. We beat the Rams by two scores despite Rush passing for only 102 yards because of our defense and running game. Our passing game was dead with him. CeeDee wasn’t producing with him.
 

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Part of the reason they suck is because of Kyler Murray. Rush didn’t get Dak like results when he played. We only won with Cooper Rush, because of our defense and kicker. We beat the Rams by two scores despite Rush passing for only 102 yards because of our defense and running game. Our passing game was dead with him. CeeDee wasn’t producing with him.
When I say results I mean we are winning the same games we’d win with Dak.

You try to break it down into passing game and all this other stuff is why we did that dumb deal.

Dak’s stats are just fools gold.
 

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When I say results I mean we are winning the same games we’d win with Dak.

You try to break it down into passing game and all this other stuff is why we did that dumb deal.

Dak’s stats are just fools gold.
We weren’t going to win many more games with Rush. Once Philly exposed him, it was time to put Dak back in the lineup. We weren’t generating enough offense and points with him. We only had maybe one game where we scored more than one TD with him. Once our defense and pass rush fell off, we would’ve stopped winning games with him. He benefited by having outstanding defensive play during his four wins. Our defense wasn’t nearly as good the second half of the season.
 

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They length you people go….


So his calf was the reason why he cant read the field?

You people? Geez man…

No but it takes away one of the best parts of his game which is mobility and ability to extend plays and go off script. Lost that for most of the 2nd half of the season and clearly wasn’t the same dude.
 

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You people? Geez man…

No but it takes away one of the best parts of his game which is mobility and ability to extend plays and go off script. Lost that for most of the 2nd half of the season and clearly wasn’t the same dude.
My bad for the you people
 

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Everything’s fine…

One WR/TE that remotely came close to 1,000 yards, while the entire remaining roster barley sniffed 500 yards. And Lamb didn't turn it on until Dak came back and around the time there was talk about getting another FA receiver like Beckham.
 

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One WR/TE that remotely came close to 1,000 yards, while the entire remaining roster barley sniffed 500 yards. And Lamb didn't turn it on until Dak came back and around the time there was talk about getting another FA receiver like Beckham.

Schultz was our #2 option and had a negative overall EPA / play…absolutely wild.
 
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