Dallas has no weapons - Baldinger

[CATCH17]

We all saw how much better Dak got when we traded for Amari Cooper in 2018. As soon as we moved on from Cooper, Dak’s game regressed. We need to do a lot more this offseason to help him.

No he needs to help us. He wanted the contract that makes it difficult to help him because he thought he was good enough to carry the team.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You are misrepresenting what both said. They both laid blame on Dak too.

Of course they did. But you're refusal to admit as to having hardly any weapons around him, along with horrible pass route concepts and designs, is what also greatly attributed to Dak's performance.

 

[cnuball21]

Definitely. But is that sustainable for the team? Be content with bums at WR because we'll pin all our hopes on Dak not flopping? The point is, both of these things are true and improving the talent in the team can help minimize the reliance on Dak to not suck. We're trying to win the super bowl, and we never will with the likes of Noah Brown and washed up Gallup and Hilton being key players. You could argue the same for Dak, but like Jerry at GM, we've made our bed and are stuck with him. His presence isn't changing so let's minimize how important he is

This is my issue. Most of us understand Dak isn’t elite. And that’s fine, IMO there are 2 dudes in the NFL that are and then there’s a tier after that that Dak is in. So about 30 teams in the NFL have to try and figure it out with Mahomes / Burrow.

Ive been talking about WR as a weakness since middle of the year, not just after SF. If you don’t have an elite QB you can’t expect him to go out and be elite like he did against Philly and TB all year and through the playoffs. It’s not sustainable. Dak has to play better, but you have to help him. Give him weapons, like smart teams are doing, and take some pressure off him so he doesn’t have to try and play hero ball as much.

 

[America's Cowboy]

There were 2 SF defenders right around Lamb but Dak makes the throw and somehow it is on Lamb. LOL You guys should get on Dak's PR payroll.

Go to the Kurt Warner thread. He explains who also was to blame and why. I know you won't do it since you can't handle it.

 

[Sydla]

Of course they did. But you're refusal to admit as to having hardly any weapons around him, along with horrible pass route concepts and designs, is what also greatly attributed to Dak's performance.

Except, goober, I have said that there are definitely some issues around Dak. For christ sake, I was arguing with CowboyRoy and others on this board all August and September that the front office botched the WR position and were taking a risky approach thinking Tolbert and Gallup coming off injury would replace Cooper. I just argued in other threads that they likely need to send Moore away and get a new voice in here for Dak.

But I also watch the games and Dak's play this year was all over the map himself, and it had little to do at times as to who was playing WR or calling plays. He was loose with the football and made questionable throws that no QB should be making, certainly not a 7th year vet.

You seem incapable of acknowleding that even if they improve WR or get him a new OC, that the real underlying issue may in fact be Dak Prescott.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Except, goober, I have said that there are definitely some issues around Dak. For christ sake, I was arguing with CowboyRoy and others on this board all August and September that the front office botched the WR position and were taking a risky approach thinking Tolbert and Gallup coming off injury would replace Cooper. I just argued in other threads that they likely need to send Moore away and get a new voice in here for Dak.

But I also watch the games and Dak's play this year was all over the map himself, and it had little to do at times as to who was playing WR or calling plays. He was loose with the football and made questionable throws that no QB should be making, certainly not a 7th year vet.

You seem incapable of acknowleding that even if they improve WR or get him a new OC, that the real underlying issue may in fact be Dak Prescott.

No doubt, Dak is as much responsible for his bad throws and needs better coaching/training. What Kurt Warner is saying is how lazy routes, pour pass route concepts, along with lack of better talent and play designs also affected Dak's performance and decision making.

 

[mardwin]

We don't have any weapons?

Please watch Kurt Warner's breakdown video of Dak's play. We have an issue at the QB position not making reads fast enough.

 

[offlimits]

No question we need more weapons, and Pollard and Cee Dee are pretty much it at this point. I like the young TE's but we need more speed and impact players on offense.

I also agree we need more defensive talent. DQ knows how to use the guys we have so he has a point.

Draft a RB in April. Lots of good ones are available.

 

[CATCH17]

Draft a RB in April. Lots of good ones are available.

Im always down for a lineman but right now..

Corner
WR
RB
Linebacker

Those are our biggest needs.

 

[CATCH17]

This is my issue. Most of us understand Dak isn’t elite. And that’s fine, IMO there are 2 dudes in the NFL that are and then there’s a tier after that that Dak is in. So about 30 teams in the NFL have to try and figure it out with Mahomes / Burrow.

Ive been talking about WR as a weakness since middle of the year, not just after SF. If you don’t have an elite QB you can’t expect him to go out and be elite like he did against Philly and TB all year and through the playoffs. It’s not sustainable. Dak has to play better, but you have to help him. Give him weapons, like smart teams are doing, and take some pressure off him so he doesn’t have to try and play hero ball as much.

The contract and lack of weapons go hand in hand.

You start adding more weapons then we lose somewhere else. Possibly defense.

Then we whine about the defense being not good enough.

This contract is a detriment to this franchise locking us into mediocrity until it’s over.

 

[offlimits]

Who is Chase Brown?
Dak not enough around him.

It's always about "Dak doesn't have enough around him."

We could have beaten the 49ers if he didn't throw interceptions and understood how to consistently read coverage.
Several commentators said he had receivers wide open but didn't get them the ball for whatever reasons.

And the 49ers have weaknesses - their secondary. But we didn't have the quarterback who could exploit them.
Watch Jalen Hurts pick the 49ers secondary apart.
Watch a real coach, a real offensive coordinator and a real quarterback show how it should be done.

I certainly remember a younger version of Tom Brady, back in the day, who always seemed to elevate receivers that they found off the street.

 

[ICP]

I would have to agree and thought it was pretty obvious especially after Pollard went down

 

[Lodeus]

I love baldys breakdowns but Lamb and pollard are legit weapons.

 

[offlimits]

No he’s not

Lamb isn’t explosive he isn’t a YAC guy - he isn’t Chase or Hill or Jefferson or TO or Dez or Irvin like.

He has a great year but he’s not top 10

Michael Irvin was pretty slow actually.

 

[kramskoi]

Well, he didn’t actually say that it when it comes down to after Pollard and cd lamb, we have nothing.

Brian baldinger on Dallas ,
CD Lamb was moved around like a 1 - he has stats like a 1 .
He’s not a 1
He’s no chase brown etc
They asked a LOT of him.
He’s a 1B tops - not enough.

After that DALLAS has no weapons after pollard got hurt.

They are in major need of Speed and weapons .

Dak not enough around him .

Horrific early int - he threw that same pick earlier in the year . He didn’t even look just threw it .
Micah Parsons was unbelievable- he blew up their all pro tackle - played the middle v Deebo v kittle - kittle couldn’t block him.
Then played the outside .

But the Dallas D is more Quinn than talent.
If Quinn leaves it’s a disaster .

SF have no weakness anywhere - and Dallas had a legit chance.

SF D zone is unbelievable and completely befuddled Dak.

Tyron Smith handled Bosa - he’s not done .

Hosts wondered about keeping Smith and letting Steele leave - save $10 million .

Philly best secondary in football

SF best LB’s

Philly best in trenches

To restate he really really emphasized that losing Dan Quinn is a disaster

How much of this "actually" true? Every armchair quarterback is going to descend like vultures on the Cowboys, opining about what they think is the best way forward. TY Hilton was running wide open on the other seam when Prescott threw it to Lamb (3rd quarter...3rd and 5). It was blown up by B gap pressure, and you have to wonder why Moore persists with empty sets, especially when he has Elliot (of all guys) out wide (near the sideline) on the play. You can also argue that Prescott should've gone back-side (to Hilton) on the play since it's obvious teams are shading coverage to Lamb in third down situations. His eyes were on Lamb all the way. Again...you only need FIVE yards on this play...and it's empty set with Elliot out near the sideline, where there ain't a chance in hell of a throw being made.

How many times did we watch Romo to Witten for five yards?

I don't totally buy that it's a lack of talent on the offense. They put up too many points once Prescott came back. If Gallup is having trouble stopping and cutting then have the guy on routes where those things are not so heavily emphasized. You have an OC who simply puts Prescott in bad positions at the worst times. Not leaving him an easy out. I hope like hell that the Panthers take him though I will believe it when I see it.

 

[aikemirv]

In my opinion, Jerry sabotaged Mike McCarthy at least he thought he did by trading away Amari Cooper and not resigning key free agents and he left his team barren with decent cap space for Sean Payton.

Instead McCarthy coached his *** off and almost got us to the NFC title game vs a tremendous San Francisco football team.

If you wanna get rid of Cooper fine, but you’ve got to bring in an ace replacement.

I don't think he sabotaged anybody. He just thought Dak and Gallup were better than they are and he had a grudge against Amari.

He was wrong as usual!

 

[XXLMike]

Michael Irvin was pretty slow actually.

Ha no - he was in a different era - he Created a tremendous throwing window- especially on the 25 yard comeback .
Tremendous on the slant as well.

 

[cnuball21]

The contract and lack of weapons go hand in hand.

You start adding more weapons then we lose somewhere else. Possibly defense.

Then we whine about the defense being not good enough.

This contract is a detriment to this franchise locking us into mediocrity until it’s over.

Sure, the contract is an issue but that’s Jerry’s fault not Daks. Dak could’ve been had for quite a bit less the year prior.

If we want to complain about contracts that’s a front office problem…which is the biggest problem IMO.

 

[CATCH17]

Sure, the contract is an issue but that’s Jerry’s fault not Daks. Dak could’ve been had for quite a bit less the year prior.

If we want to complain about contracts that’s a front office problem…which is the biggest problem IMO.

Completely agree that it’s Jerry’s fault.

I will say Stephen Jones kept telling everyone including Dak that this would be a problem. “Only a certain amount of pie”.

But yeah at the end of the day the Jones’s did this dumb deal and now the team and fans must suffer.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't think he sabotaged anybody. He just thought Dak and Gallup were better than they are and he had a grudge against Amari.

He was wrong as usual!

I think Gallup never recovered completely from his injury. He wasn’t the same this year.